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rudster
from the glasgow on 2009-05-21 08:38 [#02292528]
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what are your opinions on dj'ing with mp3's, traktor, serato, ableton etc.
i have a set of vestax vci's and control traktor and have pulled together a good number of solid sets but a few friends of mine who strictly only use vinyl and turn their head up at anyone using digital saying there is no heart and soul in using digital, now i can see their point to a certain extent but nowadays i couldnt care less if i was out and the dj was using vinyl or mp3, personally for me if it sounds mega then that should be all that counts.
i know there are alot of members on the board who use both, the reason i bring this up is sheffieldbleeps sale of serato.
thoughts please
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-05-21 08:58 [#02292536]
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with digital you can mix anything you bump into/make yourself. i cant see the plus side to vinyl other than this soul stuff, but i understand. anyway you weren't asking me, im just looking for threads to bump
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-21 11:57 [#02292574]
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ok my thoughts.. vinyl mixing has had its day,i love it and love that it is infact now retro
but in all fairness digital is better,and really more fun. as long as you use some form of deck or decent controller you can win people over.
i'm also a fan of the VCI,but i wish they would make a bigger version with big fuck off platters.
thanks for listening,david.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-21 11:59 [#02292575]
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-05-21 12:36 [#02292584]
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cheaper, easier, more convenient and better for your back.
i love vinyl, but snobs who won't use anything else annoy the fuck out of me.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-21 12:57 [#02292586]
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djing on decks fun - using serato or traktor scratch allows that fun to carry on in the digital age.
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2009-05-21 13:08 [#02292589]
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ah u have those allen n heath badboys, can i have your room?
my mates have recently started a monthly night in glasgow called outbound but refuse to let me play cos its "vinyl dj's only"
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2009-05-21 13:45 [#02292602]
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I love using vinyl but I have spent a pretty large sum of money on them and I am kind of reticent to take them out of the house with me. I don't mind using cd's but the interface is a bit tricky for me to use. I love laptop djing as I have so much more fun with it.
I guess when it comes down to it I don't care about the format used as long what is coming out the other end is decent. I am no snob when it comes to technique either.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2009-05-21 14:32 [#02292612]
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thats a point,theres no fucking way im carrying my beautiful rekids around.
and a lot of clubs dont even have decks anyway i take my xone and laptop to gigs and rob hall it everytime.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-05-21 15:37 [#02292617]
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i've had turntables for 18 years and its probably the most enjoyable format to use, but i don't really care about the medium, i care about the end result.
i don't play out, and simply do mixes for my own enjoyment which sometimes i share on forums, so maybe that's why it isn't important to me?
*shrugs*
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-05-21 16:04 [#02292621]
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for me, each has it's own level of enjoyment - for me atleast. there's no future for strictly vinyl jocks, that's just how it is, and people who still hang onto it, are essentially the same sort of people who hated the electric guitar for not being "real".
there is, however, a kind of magic being able to manipulate the physical object that is a record. to some degree it's being retained in using timecoded vinyl, but i still feel that it's just a way of bridging the old with the new, but not being superior to either. for digital jocking, the controller is the new turntable.
with digidjing, its been easier for new kids on the block to start putting tunes over eachother, with a pirated copy of ableton and some tunes found on the net they have bypassed the initial commitment that most of the vinylists have gone through, to get a pair of decks and some records and then hours of practice - and i believe that is the main core of the disdain towards digital djs.
the most important thing in this is ofcourse the result - the actual mix. i usually don't give a shit about how it's made, as long as it's entertaining. but, i've found myself being more forgiving about the technical faults of some vinyl-only mixes, as it now is considered a kind of proof of authenticity, whereas slip-ups on a digital one is just sloppy and tells me that the dj needs more practice. for those who have read this far, this is probably my thoughest post on zilty so far, so i better stop before i turn into dave_g or ceri.
to conclude, go vinyls go controllers and go computers. cds are just wrong to mix with booo
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2009-05-21 16:13 [#02292623]
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i think thats what pisses them off so much, they have thousands of quids worth of vinyl collected over a 10 year period and i could basically get there entire back catalogue in a nights worth of heavy downloading
the joys of the tinterweb
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-05-21 16:14 [#02292624]
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excellent post vlari, everything i wanted to say and more.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-05-21 22:15 [#02292669]
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People who think that one technology has more soul than another are not worth listening to.
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