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Vegetarians that is. If everyone was to turn veggie, 6.5 billion humans would have to be fed with plants and seeds, decimating forests, fields and woodland areas. Other animal species would die. Please ask vegetarians how they can justify a butterfly, slug or earthworm having any less right to live than a cow, chicken or pig? Why should they be wiped out because they don't all have two eyes, a nose and smiley mouth like we do? Vegetarians? Naive. |
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I don't see how any animal can be killed for food without some form of brutality being involved. I suppose its also brutal to negate an animal of its natural environment through farming and have it starve to death. |
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Did you have any part in the creation and/ or running of this site Barcode, you crazy spin doctor, you! :) |
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Being proud of being a vegetarian has always struck me as very peculiar. It's like being proud of NOT hitting other people, i.e. because you refrain from doing a particular act. My cats and my dog doesn't give a damn about my ethical decisions, nor does a cow or a banana. Pride and contempt are two sides of the same coin. |
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My cats and my dog doesn't give a damn about my ethical decisions, nor does a cow or a banana. So you need gratification as an incentive to be nice? |
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Nature has no concern for humans. If anyone believes that he's doing nature a favour by refraining from eating meat, he's fooling himself. Nature doesn't need our help. If he's doing it for himself, he ought to keep it to himself, as well. No need to cry it out for the whole world to see. Don't get me wrong. I don't have any "issues" with anyone who chooses to be a vegetarian. All intention is selfish. The only difference (if there are any) is whether 'we' perceive the fact that we do it for ourselves, or not. |
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Why must you separate them into two? Humans are part of nature. And where are you getting all this stuff from? Certainly no one on this thread has said any of that stuff. Your pre-emption and cynicism both sadden me and they sound pretty misplaced. |
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vegetarians are edible |
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This is actually completely false. The output of food each animal yields is less than the amount of plant food that they are fed with. How did you think animals were fed? |
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I am sort of unsure whether Barcode deserves to have people challenge him. It seems like all he ever tries to do is create gratuitous anger and conflict. |
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haha |
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nope, all he is doing is speaking his thoughts on topics that are more important than other topics being spoken of on this messageboard. I have a question for vegetarians- can smoking cigarettes be considered vegetable consumption? Being a vegetarian is a personal choice, just like the choice to wear a certain brand of clothing over another. Eating meat is just another medium of survival like vegetables are, though if you look physiologically, we have teeth that suggest we should be herbivorous. But we are obviously omnivores. |
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"we have teeth that suggest we should be herbivorous" false. our teeth, though less pronounced than in full carnivores, clearly do not suggest we should be herbivores. |
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All the front teeth in a human are sharp. In animals that eat only vegetables, they are flat. Predatory animals have eyes in the front of their head; Omnivores and Carnivores. Prey animals have eyes in the side. Its not like nature made some special distinction for humans. Nature is violent and cruel. There is very little room for an animal that is neither predator or prey. |
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I can see where vegetarians are coming from, the fact of killing something else so we can eat, but what screws with my head is why do some vegetarians think its ok to eat fish. fuck em' time for some Kitten and chips followed by some dolphin soup. |
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you still kill a potato when you uproot it from the ground. |
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True but herbivores also have intestines twice the size of their bodies, like humans, what i'm saying is that humans are not carnivores nor are they herbivores, but opting to be a vegetarian isn't really a negative choice as eveyone thinks it is (by consuming that which other animals survive on). It is only negative economically, because the food industry breeds animals for human consumption, it's not like they're taking them from their natural habitat, it's a regulated process which some (vegans/tarians) don't agree with. I applaud their futile efforts, it's very artistic. |
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More resources are required to feed an animal for slaughter than to exculde the animal from the food chain. That much is plain mathematics. We can take or leave the ethical issues. |
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I find piscetarians silly, too. If they call themselves piscetarians It is alright. But when they say they are 'pretty much vegetarian', that does bug me a little. Probably not enough to actually bring it up in conversation, though. |
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Scientifically speaking, they can't feel pain. In relation to z3ek's comment, I guess it's just that his wording was slightly insufficient, but he got the point acorss IMO. |
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i think that's not scientifically proven and therefor debated i think they are a lower lifeform though, like insects. (i don't eat fish or meat or insects though) |
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And meat eaters talk out their arse too. In Western society they think eating dogs is a vile and savage practice, yet they're perfectly happy to eat the bacon off a pig that's had it's throat slashed. Is a dog any more intelligent than a pig? And even if it was, why should that make a difference? Because dogs aren't aesthetically unattractive, don't stink and grunt and roll in the mud, humans like them and say it's cruel to kill and eat them - yet they don't give a fuck about pigs. Pure hypocrisy. |
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they're meateaters |
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FFS... different folks, different strokes. No one is going to change anyone else's diet through the means of this thread. I respect those who eat meat and I only ask them to respect my wish not to eat meat. Barcode, stop trying to be provocative. END OF THREAD. |
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You made the fatal flaw in imagining I want to change anyone's diet - I couldn't give a toss. On the contrary, I have just explained why whatever path you choose the end result is exactly the same. Maybe you prefer to see things in black and white, I don't, I prefer to challenge and discuss. If you think that's provocative, then you're close-minded. |
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I am just going on your history. I remember in one thread you said you just wanted some attention and it made a lot of sense. I have had this in mind in relation to other threads you have started. Obviously this isn't true of such threads as that one about the acoustic Red Hot Car song, but most I think are provacative, as you yourself say. I am not closed minded, I am just tired of people re-hashing the vegetarianism argument. If you had come out with some news article or something, some sign of progress or something in some way new, this thread would have more credibility to you. Generally, I am in a weird mood right now, as I am in my house by myself, as most people have left for Easter holidays. My mate came back today though, so hopefully I will be in a better mood in the future. However, this has only effected me to a certain degree. Even if I had been in the best of moods, I would still find this thread a bit annoying. One thing I will say is that I shouldn't have put an 'END OF THREAD' on the end there. I shouldn't assume people want to stop talking about something, just cos I do. It would piss me off if someone did that to me, so I'm sorry about that. ACCEPTANCE OF CONTINUATION OF THREAD hehe :) |
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no, you are trolling. trolltroll troll trollllll troll troll. |
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What's wrong with trolling? |
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There aren't many posts her as it is, therefore each counts, so trolling quickly adds up and forms a surprising percentage of all posts on this board, maybe. I dunno. I'm just the cleaner... |
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So delete my posts and ban me then - easily done. |
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To keep my reply short, I'm not talking about vegetarianism, AS SUCH, but any assumed pride associated with it (if there is any). Wouldn't you find it strange if someone told you that he/she is PROUD of the fact that he/she DOESN'T scare little children? So why should our preference of nourishment be any different? It's still just pride. I'm NOT talking about whether or not you are a vegetarian. Read my first post again. |
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What is pride anyway? An ego-boost to the self usually, allowing one to feel morally superior over others. |
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In a word: yes. |
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why did i waste my time reading this bullshit? why why why why why? never again... |
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