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Are you worried about this? It has been started in my area, which, having read about it, I am not happy about. Apparently, have an effect, too. It's all kind of depressing, you know? |
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I only use non-fluoridated toothpaste, although those are hard to come by. Luckily they haven't implemented national (or even regional) fluoridation in the water supply in this country since the early 90's, at least to my knowledge. Nobody should support fluoridation, it's madness. Most people are ill informed about it, which doesn't surprise me but neither does it make the facts go away. What little benefit it may have for dental care is a joke. It is a powerful toxin, don't eat it / drink it. |
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You seem to know your stuff! :) WOuld I be able to filter it out with a Brita water filter, do you think? Please say yes! |
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I have no idea :D it's probably (mwahahaa) not going to kill you, but you should raise hell about it to municipal government, and/or use bottled water although those are sometimes fluoridated as well. on a lighter note, this reminds me of that wonderful scene from Dr. Strangelove: too bad the issue itself is nothing to laugh at... |
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I am dowloading that film at the mo'! I tried to watch it recently, but it hadn't finished downloading, so it didn't work. :) Sometimes the best way to deal with something is to laugh at it. "better to laugh than to cry..." |
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that's true... it's a great movie |
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reverse osmosiss or something? or distill . its so stupid they do it to kill us off. if i want to clean my teeth i'll clean my freaking teeth with toothpaste , thanks. its like .. adding toilet paper to our food for people that cant be bothered to wipe. ( in a cartoon world example thingy) |
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also mercury in tooth fillings. yes mercury in tooth fillings ! its just beyond insane, |
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at least they stopped doing mercury fillings... didn't they?? |
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As you said Bob, they still put Flouride in toothpaste, though... Freqs, you're right, the govt does not care about keeping people alive. Obviously people don't care enough to stop the govt, either. Sad world we live in. :( |
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amalgam filling silver/black in colour. you can still get em for the rear teeth. its very dangerous to remove them and expensive and painful :) they all leak into your bodies and give us nerve disorders etc. after 65 we should all drop dead it seems. |
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but I don't think "they" are trying to kill the population or even make us stupid and docile (no matter what Alex Jones says)... they're probably just relying on some bad science and the lobbying influence of pro-fluoridation groups. |
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read this from bbc> Consider the facts: the ovens in crematoria operate at temperatures of up to 1100C and burn for 75 minutes per corpse. In the process they consume around 285 kilowatt-hours of gas and 15kWh of electricity. That’s pretty much the same amount of energy as an average person would use at home in a month. And CO2 isn’t the only pollution issue. A sixth of all UK mercury emissions are from the fillings that go up in smoke along with the corpses of our loved ones. That mercury contaminates the air, the water, the soil and thereby all of us and exposure to mercury has been linked with all sorts of unpleasant illnesses including birth defects, kidney disease and multiple sclerosis. |
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mad one . did you know the guy from fsol nearly died because his filling was leaking mercury. right at deaths doors. they took it out he's o.k now. |
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I didn't say govt. is trying to kill us, just they don't care about keeping people alive. And who are you quoting "they" from? 'cos it isn't me. |
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I'm not, quote unquote, "quoting" anyone, and I'm certainly not quoting "you". I just put scare quotes around... *cough*... "them", because that's how Alex Jones talks about... them. freqy! no!! the guy from fsol nearly died?? you break my heart! :( well luckily he survived! :) |
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Tractern - Your Brita filter will not rid you of fluoride. The only methods of reliably removing fluoride from municipal water are through reverse osmosis or distillation. And yes, your governments are knowingly poisoning you. The fluoride compound introduced to tap water isn't the naturally occurring compound, but a cocktail of chemicals comprised chiefly of hydrofluorosilicic acid/sodium fluoride, and happens to be a waste byproduct of the aluminium and fertiliser industries, which, if not sold to governments at terrific mark-ups as medicine, would necessitate a costly disposal. You call this bad science? The effects of fluoride on human biochemistry have been known for ages. No, this is sound science, applied malevolently. |
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governments are not that clever. Show me the person who is malevolent here, instead of just stupid or greedy. I don't think governments know that they are poisoning their population. There is no cabal out to get you. The bad science tells us that fluoride, in small concentrations, prevents tooth decay. Which it does. It's undeniable. But so does brushing your teeth with non-fluoridated toothpaste. Bad science called it a miracle cure. Those idiots really believed it. The entire health industry was indoctrinated into this belief, starting from doctors and nurses all the way down to school teachers and parents. Luckily many governments wisened up in the 90s and ended this practice around Europe. It's a slightly different thing with MSG and aspartame, where a combination of greed and mismarketing has given us this scourge, purely out of a need for cheap and (in the case of MSG) addictive additives, no matter how dangerous they are. |
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Aw... but they is 'spensive! |
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Fluoride compounds will not prevent tooth decay in small concentrations, but chronic exposure can lead to an unsightly condition known as fluorosis, among other decidedly more detrimental ailments. And the only science that purported to make such a claim, that fluoride can prevent decay, dealt with strictly topical application, and made use of calcium fluoride or other naturally-occurring or pharmaceutical-grade variants, not industrial waste recovered from smokestack scrubbers, which includes radium, lead, and arsenic to name a few contaminants. There are no studies which suggest drinking the substance will reduce the incidence of dental caries. |
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I personally don't advise distillation, as there are quite a few nasty chemicals with boiling points lower than that of water which will wind up in the effluent. You're better off with a multi-stage RO unit, however this method will indiscriminately strip the water of its natural mineral content along with the contaminants, and for this reason I'd suggest using it for cooking and occasional drinking. For everyday drinking, try to find a local supplier of spring or artesian water that bottles in glass. |
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Well, be that as it may, I see no problem in accepting that something that is dangerous in some respect can have other effects that are more positive, or seen as such. Especially something that is dangerous in high doses (fluorosis) can be beneficial in lower doses (tooth enamel fortification). On the whole, however, I think its positive effects are overstated. I have even seen it said that "we all need fluoride to live"! We don't need it to live, and we don't need it to prevent caries. People are seriously misinformed. Essentially how fluoride works in moderate doses is to create an extra layer of protection - like a kind of fusion of elements, a mesh or a grid of thick stuff that forms the outer layer of the tooth - which in turn prevents tooth decay. I think this is bullshit, it's an invasive procedure that we don't need. It's like adding cement to your wounds because you want the bleeding to stop. It's typically 20th century technocratic bullshit solution. But in Colorado and in many other parts where natural fluoride concentrations in the water are above average, the early studies linked the positive effects of fluoride with stronger teeth. There is no denying these studies exist. |
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what does mel gibson have to say about this? |
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why would the government bother? wouldn't it cost less to put no poisons in the water? fuck the science. people eat and drink lots of things that are supposed to be terribly bad for them, they can die at 20 or 80. when it's your time it's your time. it would just be a shame if you wasted it on filtering water everyday. |
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I believe he expressed his desire to be a fox with the playful disposition of a man-child, so that he might be inclined to jump a sheep, rather than kill and eat it. |
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HAHA look at hexanes jumping over the piggy! :P (the avy above ) |
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Mind control, yo! I've heard that the true reason it is there is to keep the masses complacent. Maybe a rumor. Isn't Prozac some sort of fluorinated molecule? Also, I've read that the water fluoridation process was invented by the Nazis. |
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"Mind control, yo! I've heard that the true reason it is there is to keep the masses complacent." must be 99% fluoride in mcdonalds drinks then ; |
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no, yes, no |
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i don't think we should collectively do anything, until everyone agrees on the motivations, the means, and the goal. also, all governments will be required to include a money back guarantee if you are not completely satisfied. |
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i was in the library today and this book about government survelliance caught my eye in the politics section. on reading the blurb, it transpired that it had been written by a science fiction author!. i put it back and went on with my life. the end |
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lol, you've got to love stories that have no moral in them! |
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Was it in the Fiction section? if so, why would you be surprised that it was fiction? |
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