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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:08 [#00150140]
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Anyone here listen to "punk rock?" If so, why? It's terrible. How can anyone tolerate that shit? I can't think of anything more disturbing than the fact that people could actually listen to such trash. I'd rather listen to Pepsi Commercial musicians than anything like Blink 182 or the Ramones or whomever else it's cool to like.
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:11 [#00150146]
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Hey man 1st off.. Blink 182 is NOT punk. #2 Your opinion is greatly appreciated. #3 Expand your horizons. Punk is an aquired taste, just as any other genre of music. Listen to some good REAL punk rock and you may change your mind.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:12 [#00150148]
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pepsi commercial musicians like britney spears?!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-30 06:14 [#00150151]
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I hate punk, even the classic or ''real'' punk that ISN'T pop-punk. But I won't say it's SHIT... I just hate it. Has nothing to appeal to me, seems mindless to me.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-30 06:15 [#00150153]
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/me totally agrees with windowlicker.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:17 [#00150158]
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I listen to a wide variety of music, none of it punk. It's all terrible. I enjoy the irony that "punk rockers" hate country music (as do I) but they complain that country sounds all the same, and so does "punk."
This is not a "are blink 182 punk" debate, it's just that anything considered punk or even remotely punk is terrible.
I like things that take ability and thought to conceive--not just a guitar, bass, drums, and scatter-brained excuses for lyrics.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:19 [#00150161]
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Yah, Pepsi Commercial musicians like Britney Spears. I mean, what the hell--right? Blink 182 are essentially just Britney Spears for a teenage boy demographic.
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:19 [#00150162]
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Do you know how hard it is to play a punk beat on the drums?
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:20 [#00150164]
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punks more than music, sorry to inform you.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:21 [#00150165]
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actually, blink probably has a bigger female fanbase than males.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:22 [#00150166]
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I don't care about playing music. I care about writing it. Musicians tend to get locked into things that are possible for human musicians to do, and if they have a great idea that they just can't accomplish with conventional musicians, it often gets pitched. That's a shame, frankly.
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Clic
on 2002-03-30 06:22 [#00150167]
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It's not that hard. I've played drums & perc. for 9 years. It's more of a stamina thing, rather than a talent type of thing. Anyways, I don't like punk at all.
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:22 [#00150168]
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And if you have ever been exposed to any good punk rock.. you would notice that the bass player dont quit and plays difficult chords really fast. Why dont you take 10 min out of your life and just listent to something.. then bash it.. dont go and tell me oh i heard a blink song.. yea well blink is SHIT. imo
There is more to punk rock than there is to fucking rap. Thats for damn sure.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:23 [#00150169]
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you should go to one of their concerts, more ass than you can shake a fist at!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:23 [#00150170]
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I've heard tons and tons of punk bands; all of them suck.
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:24 [#00150171]
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Name them
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:25 [#00150172]
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Wait.. nevermind im going to bed. Later. Had fun dudes.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:26 [#00150174]
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okay--Screechign Weasle, Ramones, Rancid, Operation Ivy, Nofx, Descendants, Poison the Well, Jimmy Eat World, GOldfinger, Millencolin, all, less than jake, far, etc etc
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Clic
on 2002-03-30 06:27 [#00150175]
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Op Ivy and Gold Finger are ska bands.
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Clic
on 2002-03-30 06:28 [#00150176]
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But hey, who cares right? Ska sucks too.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:28 [#00150177]
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Right on, Clic.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:29 [#00150180]
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um....no.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:31 [#00150182]
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Oh, and by the way, Alien Ant Farm is terrible. Anyone who wins the hearts of obnoxious teenage thugs with a cover of a Michael Jackson track doesn't deserve recognition.
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windowlicker
from Nashvegas on 2002-03-30 06:31 [#00150183]
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One word. Shallow
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-30 06:33 [#00150186]
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I hate listening to punk. any kind of punk - pseudo-punk, real "classic" punk, etc. doesn't do anything for me. just loud noise to me. nothing interesting, musical, melodic, or emotional to it. but that's just my opinion.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:39 [#00150189]
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these bands you mention did have followings before they "made it big". you don't think that if RDJ, []pusher, BoC and etc. "made it big" they would attract an 'obnoxious teenage thug' crowd? don't be naive.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 06:40 [#00150192]
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Right, xlr. I like things that require the musician to think about on a deeper level than two minute parts for three instruments for a handful of songs, twelve cheesy lyrics and some crappy cover art and then calling it a record.
I don't listen to only Aphex Twin and crazy sorts of electronic things, though. I also love things not as odd: The Beatles, Tori Amos, The Cure, etc.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 06:43 [#00150195]
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so you enjoy aphex and other crazy sorts of electronic things on a novelty level?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-30 06:55 [#00150205]
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agreed
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-30 07:05 [#00150212]
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punk is totally more than just music, man.
and thoes bands you named... they all suck, except for nofx.
go listen to some propagandhi man. strung out, lagwagon, anti-flag, sex pistols, ramones, bad brains, nofx, hi-standard.
all good stuff.
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-30 08:01 [#00150233]
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man i make electronic music and im in a punk band with aron accually and although i have made a bunch of electronic songs, i have yet to wright a punk song that i can stick with, you pick up a fucking guitar and try to wright shit like that, and i play fucking bass man , and i halft to sing, it's no walk in the park.
man i might regret this laiter but it's the stupid people like you who are all about stereo types who ruen music, i think of punk rock just like idm music, fast , hardcore and full of additude, you need to think outside the box and try to see the good in the music, and that goes for all music, if you look at punk and think it's loud trashey mess of crap, then ofcourse you will come out with a bad idea
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2002-03-30 08:20 [#00150238]
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i totally got your back on this one, i agree with EVERYTHING you said. it is people like him that create this never ending cycle of negativity, can't they see that people like them say the same exact shit about "IDM" becuase they can't break down the walls to just understand what it takes to create any type of GOOD music.
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-30 08:22 [#00150240]
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amen!
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-30 09:53 [#00150338]
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yo you guys like ska man! ska!.... yo that shit fuckin sux, like it's fuckin horrible, like.... fuck!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2002-03-30 09:56 [#00150343]
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actually...I never really heard punk until a few months ago. I once listened to Green Day and Offspring but it doesnt really qualify as punk. Real punk is like the words and music of Bad Religion...
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-03-30 09:59 [#00150347]
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arrgh!! i can't stand ska!!
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perceptor
from North Liberty (United States) on 2002-03-30 10:35 [#00150374]
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aron,
i can't do ska either
i think all types of music have their place and purpose. although I was never into punk although I was into hardcore which is of course closely related to it. the hardcore bands I was into mainly existed to spread a message while maintaining some sort of attitude. birthright-vegan s8edge, focused-christian, 108 krishna, mouthpiece-old school s8edge, endpoint-emo, blood for blood-tough guy stuff, integrity-holy terror church...so many different types of people in the hardcore scene. it was always nice to go somewhere and see a kid wearing a hardcore or straight-edge shirt and be able to have that connection before even speaking to each other. although over the years I have slowly stopped buying hardcore-punk albums I still understand the place it has in the music scene. if you've ever been to hardcore show seeing someone climb up on top of a bunch of people reaching for the mic to sing along with the singer then I guess it would be easier to understand that the bands that play(most anyway) hardcore and punk aren't looking to play complicted structured songs like yes or king crimson played in the 70's or the muli-layered songs that many of the idm artists put out. of course that is not to say that there haven't been bands to come out of the hardcore scene that played complicted music-I live for Bloodlet! hope that made sense-its late here
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-03-30 10:41 [#00150377]
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SPOOKYLUKE, you fucking condescending piece of shit
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-30 13:52 [#00150450]
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I can't believe someone would say they hate punk and then name "punk bands" like "Screechign Weasle, Ramones, Rancid, Operation Ivy,
Nofx, Descendants, Poison the Well, Jimmy Eat World, GOldfinger, Millencolin, all, less than jake, far,..." and Blink 182.
hahahaha... I think I tore stomach muscles laughing so hard..... Thank you I needed that. It's not quite 9:00am and you've got me lauging my ass off. It's going to be a good day : )
p.s. I hate all those gunge bands like the Barnaked Ladies and Hootie and the Blowfish
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-30 14:05 [#00150457]
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Refused were the best punk band. Then the self destructed, which is a shame.
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-03-30 14:05 [#00150458]
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I don't have punk music in my collection, however my understanding has always been that punk music is/was less about the technical musicality and more about the attitude and rebelious concepts and social scene that goes along with it. My thought is that punk music is more of an aspect of some social culture. One that I am not very aware of so I'll shut up now.
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2002-03-30 14:30 [#00150474]
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Refused - The Shape Of Punk To Come
one of the best albums ever made in my opinion. not all would call it punk. but still.
Darth Manchu - have you heard Dennis Lyxzen's (refused vocalist) new rock band, The (International) Noise Conspiracy? It rocks, but not as much as the late Refused.
and however said that bad religion is a REAL punk band: NO!
"this is not a punk rock song, this is just shit that plays on mtv" - final exit
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2002-03-30 14:40 [#00150477]
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oh yeah, going to hardcore shows and dancing... you have to experience it before you can understand it. i used to call myself sXe one time but i don't like labels... as some of the
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helios
from Zürich (Switzerland) on 2002-03-30 15:39 [#00150497]
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i'm totally agree with you Omneignotumus. that thing about the social scene, yes , punk music belongs to tenagers(kids)who dislike the society. come on..in my opinion reason is the most important attitude in my life, and so i can't stand these rebellion and social critical stuff
and also the brainless drugsparties.
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-03-30 16:00 [#00150505]
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how old are you guys? sure, you can laugh at the posers and people who get way into dressing up for the scene, but "punk" rock and or "garage" rock are the basics of rock. thats like dismissing all dance music or house music as total stupid shit, but then claiming to like RDJ songs that are clearly influenced by house... oh wait, guys do that here too. and not to start on the guys who dismiss all "rap"...
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2002-03-30 16:09 [#00150509]
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Let me clear this up: I don't care what "punk" is, I hate it. I've heard a God's plenty of it and it makes me sick to my stomach. It all sounds incredibly similar. If there's a genre of music about getting stoned, vandalizing things, arguing with cops, and engaging in general moronic activities, then I want no part of it. I only like things with good music and/or good lyrics and vocals. I'd listen to punk if I heard anything with decent lyrics. Even if I heard something with lyrics I wouldn't be ashamed to have written, maybe I'd lighten up. Until then, you guys go skateboard about and learn how to spell and form sentences. Oh, yah, and cops are pigs, "dude."
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helios
from Zürich (Switzerland) on 2002-03-30 16:14 [#00150517]
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you say it right. punk is the child in the rock music family. i don't dislike House, generally i like all styles of electronic music except of the commerial trance stuff.
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-30 16:15 [#00150518]
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"I don't care what "punk" is, I hate it. I've heard a God's plenty of it and it makes me sick to my stomach"
lol... more comedy genius. I don't know what it is but I don't like it. hahaha....
I salute you, you magnificant bastard.
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-03-30 16:16 [#00150520]
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Consider the philisophical difference between these two statements:
1. I don't like the way this particular style of music sounds. I find it very unpleasant and terrible. I choose to avoid it.
2. This particular style of music sucks. It is bad. It is stupid. This style of music doesn't deserve recognition. I dislike the people who find enjoyment in this style of music.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-03-30 17:00 [#00150548]
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Dennis lyxzen is a very smart man. He is often invited to political debate tv programs here in sweden and he always has some good shit to say about stuff.
He is a reall starwars nerd to.
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