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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 10:11 [#02266712]
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cygnus, imagine if you lived 3000 years ago within a clan in which the idea was introduced that to perpetuate the spirits of your family you must all consume the brain of any dearly departed members.
you might think it would be a good idea to talk them out of it, but sometimes you just gotta sit back and let people feast on the brains of their ancestors and let them figure it out for themselves. in the meantime, free brains!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-01-21 11:35 [#02266728]
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I guess I am jumping a head quite a bit. When I posted this stuff yesterday I'd just seen some really awful photos from that clash in India that happened last month, and some photos from the situation in Gaza. I came across a photo of a mom holding her own dead children, half of her daughters face was just crushed. And there were just all these pictures of war and tanks and missiles and dead people. I guess I just lumped all world leaders into one category, because they all command the militaries that do this shit. I guess I am just mad at that. Am I wrong for being mad at this? What can I do about that? Nothing lol
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-01-21 11:37 [#02266729]
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That's a great way of putting it. War is like humanity's Autoimmune syndrome. It destroys itself for apparently no reason!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 12:51 [#02266744]
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you'll need to cultivate high indifference. i don't think you're helping yourself by looking at those pictures. i think you are hurting yourself. you know what this world's all about. why rub your nose in it? if you don't know what this world's all about, keep looking by all means. just remember, while we are indeed here, we are also on our way.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 12:54 [#02266745]
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well, i'd like to think war is more like eating a brain to gain the insight of your ancestors. autoimmune disease is more like an accident waiting to stop happening, while war is an accident that never stops because we forgot why it started.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-21 16:49 [#02266795]
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9/11 DUH DOOD
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-22 02:36 [#02266920]
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"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Barack Obama is planning to issue three executive orders Thursday, including one demanding the U.S. military detention facility at Guantanamo Bay be closed within a year, according to a senior administration official and a congressional aide.
A second executive order will formally ban torture by requiring the Army field manual be used as the guide for terror interrogations, essentially ending the Bush administration's CIA program of enhanced interrogation methods.
A third executive order, according to the officials, will order a systematic review of detention policies and procedures and a review of all individual cases."
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-01-22 09:36 [#02266959]
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you missed my point.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-01-22 13:25 [#02266996]
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i feel for you, following this shit makes me feel so mad. for obvious reasons massacres in the middle east touch me particurarly, but i bet that if these kind of barbarities would be covered by some media all around the world without interest, and all the countries (or no countries) would have the same political/economic weight, it would be the neverending madness for us, guilty of living in the comfortable side of the story. paradoxically, the less you know, the quieter you stay, but that's not the point. feeling powerless is not bad as it seems. we humans born and die so little and unrelevant, something that who play these wars like videogames seem to have forgotten, or turn to their own favour.. we could start being different from them. what can you do other than watching nearer than your own nose? and like it has already been said, being thankful for what you got, and what you didn't too. i don't know.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-22 21:43 [#02267055]
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it was a joke
thats why it was in caps and i used the word dood
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Samuel L Jigsaw
from swine flu central on 2009-01-22 22:27 [#02267058]
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Educate and mobilise this and the future generations to stop watching TV and to reject conformity and corporate journalism, to question authority, to abhor injustice, war and violence and greed and all the rest. While the society of the self reigns I can't see anything changing.
I think the one thing that annoys me the most about this whole Obama spectacle is that once again people are ready to submit their power to a man with a smile, a clean suit and all the correct speech-making techniques. The people need to take the power back, and I think we will, when we're ready to stand as one rather than in our respective groups.. but it will take time.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-01-23 04:40 [#02267086]
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fack off. revolution ruins everything especially when it's not nessecary. i keep saying youre all just being too impatient.
shit this thread is crazy "Disarmament is actually very easy, it is easier than creating armament."
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2009-01-23 04:47 [#02267088]
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it'll get better cos look at all these ppl that hate it. everyone hates this, that's a good start.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2009-01-23 07:56 [#02267097]
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we forgot we were on the internet where the funny and the stupid are easily confused.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2009-01-23 08:09 [#02267098]
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What's there to ruin?
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2009-01-23 08:16 [#02267100]
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The Messiah
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2009-01-23 13:24 [#02267158]
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i don't think that some day is gonna happen some special unity, and that day you will know that some power has changed hands etc. isn't that a story we're used to hear over and over again? especially by the media we're used to blame. we gotta do this, we gotta do that, and everybody feel more and more frustrated to be able to do anything. man we start to hear this kind shit the day we are born. so that some people die of poverty and some people die of insanity. isn't that the same miserable destiny? there is no evil to fight, we are all good and bad by our own nature. if we accept this we would be lucky animals i think, and even luckier to be able to be immune to the superman stereotypes told by those who pretend to fool generations upon generations with this bullshit of 'good', 'justice', and 'power' at all costs, perhaps we would relax a bit and be peaceful in a larger scale. perhaps.
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TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-01-24 10:38 [#02267382]
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You've woken up, Cygnus. Congratulations.
Campaign For Liberty
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Samuel L Jigsaw
from swine flu central on 2009-02-06 10:31 [#02270530]
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"Even though he has been out of office for 18 months it was Mr Blair, to the intense irritation of 10 Downing Street, who was endorsed by the new American president as "my very good friend".The president said: "I want to thank my good friend Tony Blair for coming today, somebody who did it first and perhaps did it better than I will do. He has been an example for so many people around the world of what dedicated leadership can accomplish. And we are very grateful to him."
;D
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2009-02-06 11:49 [#02270545]
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Obama is leaving a ton of loop holes left over from the Bush administration like rendition.
I also am opposed to the war in Afghanistan and Obama wants to send 30,000 more troops there. Sounds like a terrible idea on all accounts.
Sure hes only been in office for 2 weeks and we should give him a chance, but at the same time dont get your hopes up for major sweeping changes either. He's already picked his cabinet and most of them are washington insiders.
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MutterMenace
from Groton (United States) on 2009-02-07 10:01 [#02270768]
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Ron Paul '12! Ooh wait, scratch that, he'll be lobotomized by then.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2009-02-26 00:52 [#02275106]
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Bump.
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2009-02-26 03:30 [#02275122]
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Violence is far more mental than physical. When you conform to any belief you have committed an act of violence, you have violated yourself. War is the thin edge of the wedge - when psychological violence spills over, it can become uncontrollable. Until inner violence ceases it will always manifest itself as outer violence. ALWAYS.
Unfortunately, the catalyst for this is thought itself. Thought IS destructive. Thought IS divisive. Thought IS disorder. Examine your thoughts, they are violent all day long every day, but that's just expressed in different ways. Mix it up with politics and it build into a great big dirty bomb.
I'm afraid it is only the overwhelming desire for security that dampens down the violence in us all. To stop all violence, thought must be dismantled, belief dismantled, understood on a much much deeper level.
One man can never change that, and it's hideously naive to imagine one man ever could. Every individual must change, then collectively there would be change.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2009-04-05 13:59 [#02284258]
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Obama talks about disarming the world. Something like this can't happen in a day because people seem to thrive on fear. Is this what you were talking about Cygnus?
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