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offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 10:11 [#02266712]
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cygnus, imagine if you lived 3000 years ago within a clan in
which the idea was introduced that to perpetuate the spirits
of your family you must all consume the brain of any dearly
departed members.

you might think it would be a good idea to talk them out of
it, but sometimes you just gotta sit back and let people
feast on the brains of their ancestors and let them figure
it out for themselves. in the meantime, free brains!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-01-21 11:35 [#02266728]
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I guess I am jumping a head quite a bit. When I posted this
stuff yesterday I'd just seen some really awful photos from
that clash in India that happened last month, and some
photos from the situation in Gaza. I came across a photo of
a mom holding her own dead children, half of her daughters
face was just crushed. And there were just all these
pictures of war and tanks and missiles and dead people. I
guess I just lumped all world leaders into one category,
because they all command the militaries that do this shit. I
guess I am just mad at that. Am I wrong for being mad at
this? What can I do about that? Nothing lol


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2009-01-21 11:37 [#02266729]
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That's a great way of putting it. War is like humanity's
Autoimmune syndrome. It destroys itself for apparently no
reason!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 12:51 [#02266744]
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you'll need to cultivate high indifference. i don't think
you're helping yourself by looking at those pictures. i
think you are hurting yourself. you know what this world's
all about. why rub your nose in it? if you don't know what
this world's all about, keep looking by all means. just
remember, while we are indeed here, we are also on our way.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-01-21 12:54 [#02266745]
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well, i'd like to think war is more like eating a brain to
gain the insight of your ancestors. autoimmune disease is
more like an accident waiting to stop happening, while war
is an accident that never stops because we forgot why it
started.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-21 16:49 [#02266795]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #02266745



9/11 DUH DOOD


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-22 02:36 [#02266920]
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"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Barack Obama is planning to
issue three executive orders Thursday, including one
demanding the U.S. military detention facility at Guantanamo
Bay be closed within a year, according to a senior
administration official and a congressional aide.
A second executive order will formally ban torture by
requiring the Army field manual be used as the guide for
terror interrogations, essentially ending the Bush
administration's CIA program of enhanced interrogation
methods.
A third executive order, according to the officials, will
order a systematic review of detention policies and
procedures and a review of all individual cases."


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-01-22 09:36 [#02266959]
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you missed my point.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-01-22 13:25 [#02266996]
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i feel for you, following this shit makes me feel so mad.
for obvious reasons massacres in the middle east touch me
particurarly, but i bet that if these kind of barbarities
would be covered by some media all around the world without
interest, and all the countries (or no countries) would have
the same political/economic weight, it would be the
neverending madness for us, guilty of living in the
comfortable side of the story. paradoxically, the less you
know, the quieter you stay, but that's not the point.
feeling powerless is not bad as it seems. we humans born and
die so little and unrelevant, something that who play these
wars like videogames seem to have forgotten, or turn to
their own favour.. we could start being different from them.
what can you do other than watching nearer than your own
nose? and like it has already been said, being thankful for
what you got, and what you didn't too. i don't know.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2009-01-22 21:43 [#02267055]
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it was a joke

thats why it was in caps and i used the word dood


 

offline Samuel L Jigsaw from swine flu central on 2009-01-22 22:27 [#02267058]
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Educate and mobilise this and the future generations to stop
watching TV and to reject conformity and corporate
journalism, to question authority, to abhor injustice, war
and violence and greed and all the rest. While the society
of the self reigns I can't see anything changing.

I think the one thing that annoys me the most about this
whole Obama spectacle is that once again people are ready to
submit their power to a man with a smile, a clean suit and
all the correct speech-making techniques. The people need to
take the power back, and I think we will, when we're ready
to stand as one rather than in our respective groups.. but
it will take time.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-01-23 04:40 [#02267086]
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fack off. revolution ruins everything especially when it's
not nessecary. i keep saying youre all just being too
impatient.

shit this thread is crazy
"Disarmament is actually very
easy, it is easier than creating armament."


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-01-23 04:47 [#02267088]
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it'll get better cos look at all these ppl that hate it.
everyone hates this, that's a good start.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-01-23 07:56 [#02267097]
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we forgot we were on the internet where the funny and the
stupid are easily confused.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2009-01-23 08:09 [#02267098]
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What's there to ruin?


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2009-01-23 08:16 [#02267100]
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The Messiah


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-01-23 13:24 [#02267158]
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i don't think that some day is gonna happen some special
unity, and that day you will know that some power has
changed hands etc. isn't that a story we're used to hear
over and over again? especially by the media we're used to
blame. we gotta do this, we gotta do that, and everybody
feel more and more frustrated to be able to do anything. man
we start to hear this kind shit the day we are born. so that
some people die of poverty and some people die of insanity.
isn't that the same miserable destiny? there is no evil to
fight, we are all good and bad by our own nature. if we
accept this we would be lucky animals i think, and even
luckier to be able to be immune to the superman stereotypes
told by those who pretend to fool generations upon
generations with this bullshit of 'good', 'justice', and
'power' at all costs, perhaps we would relax a bit and be
peaceful in a larger scale. perhaps.


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2009-01-24 10:38 [#02267382]
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You've woken up, Cygnus. Congratulations.

Campaign For Liberty


 

offline Samuel L Jigsaw from swine flu central on 2009-02-06 10:31 [#02270530]
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"Even though he has been out of office for 18 months it
was Mr Blair, to the intense irritation of 10 Downing
Street, who was endorsed by the new American president as
"my very good friend".The president said: "I want to thank
my good friend Tony Blair for coming today, somebody who did
it first and perhaps did it better than I will do. He has
been an example for so many people around the world of what
dedicated leadership can accomplish. And we are very
grateful to him."


;D


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2009-02-06 11:49 [#02270545]
Points: 1038 Status: Lurker



Obama is leaving a ton of loop holes left over from the Bush
administration like rendition.

I also am opposed to the war in Afghanistan and Obama wants
to send 30,000 more troops there. Sounds like a terrible
idea on all accounts.

Sure hes only been in office for 2 weeks and we should give
him a chance, but at the same time dont get your hopes up
for major sweeping changes either. He's already picked his
cabinet and most of them are washington insiders.


 

offline MutterMenace from Groton (United States) on 2009-02-07 10:01 [#02270768]
Points: 435 Status: Regular



Ron Paul '12! Ooh wait, scratch that, he'll be lobotomized
by then.


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2009-02-26 00:52 [#02275106]
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Bump.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2009-02-26 03:30 [#02275122]
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Violence is far more mental than physical. When you conform
to any belief you have committed an act of violence, you
have violated yourself. War is the thin edge of the wedge -
when psychological violence spills over, it can become
uncontrollable. Until inner violence ceases it will always
manifest itself as outer violence. ALWAYS.

Unfortunately, the catalyst for this is thought itself.
Thought IS destructive. Thought IS divisive. Thought IS
disorder. Examine your thoughts, they are violent all day
long every day, but that's just expressed in different ways.
Mix it up with politics and it build into a great big dirty
bomb.

I'm afraid it is only the overwhelming desire for security
that dampens down the violence in us all. To stop all
violence, thought must be dismantled, belief dismantled,
understood on a much much deeper level.

One man can never change that, and it's hideously naive to
imagine one man ever could. Every individual must change,
then collectively there would be change.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2009-04-05 13:59 [#02284258]
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LAZY_TITLE

Obama talks about disarming the world. Something like this
can't happen in a day because people seem to thrive on fear.
Is this what you were talking about Cygnus?


 


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