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okay, there are some artists i respect very much. when they have something to say, i take them quite seriously, and listen. i try to understand their statement. there are few musicians i really respect for their artistry, but among them are pat metheny and aphex twin. both of these guys, i believe are geniuses. pat metheny came out with a solo album in 1992 or 1993 called Zero Tolerance for Silence. This features pat on a distorted feed-back laden guitar, there is nearly no melody, rhyme or reason to the whole cd, at least to someone like myself who has not studied music theory, etc. i find aphex's VENTOLIN kinda like that, too. i mean, it is unlistenable (it is asthetically not pleasing), but it has something to it that makes me not dismiss it as rubbish. there must be more examples of this that some people have on this mb. perhaps you could talk about it a little? what about john cage's 4'33" which is just john cage sitting at the piano and not playing... let's hear it from you people... what do you think? |
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I think Zero Tolerance is awesome. |
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I like it a lot now, too. but i like it because i listen to it in a different mode that when i am listening to say, We Live here. |
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4'33 is the same as BOC s magic window, It's about the present, what's happening NOW, all the real ambient sounds around, I think it's cool as concepts go but like I'm explaining it, it's a bit patronising..... Soz |
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and i must admit, it is rare that i will put it on, but when i do put it on, it is more of a meditative state. i just let the music be, and i don't try to get into it, i just "be" with the music, if you understand. when i hear, say, as falls witchita, i can actually interact with the music. ztfs is one where i separate myself, and just become a partner, whereas i "become one" with other pmg stuff. |
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first off, ventolin is pretty tame compared to other tracks ive heard. ventolin has a rythm and all that, the samples are just loud and distorted which makes it difficult to listen to. john cage's 4'33 is cheesy i think, although quite hilarious. a side note - last semester i took a music class and my teacher was lecturing us on john cage. Then he was like okay, now i will play you a john cage piece on the piano, and right then i knew what he was going to do, he sat and sat and everyone was looking at each other. It was some tightness, he was a cool teacher. |
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beyond the missouri sky... |
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This topic reminds me of a quote by lou reed about "metal machine music" - "If you make it to side 4 you're dumber than I am." |
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I really like Still Life. Did you get the new one? |
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Er..? |
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ambience is nice it's kinda like your mom when she wakes up and first thing she does is turn on the tv so she doesn't feel all alone. just to hear the randomness of the voices is like comforting to her. so when i listen to ambience i'm usually busy doing something, it gives a nice atomsphere to the room without taking away any of my attention. |
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Actually my mom doesn't have Alzheimer's like yours. |
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trout mask replica by captain beefheart to the untrained ear this album may seem as though either the musicians are not trying or they are just making it up as they go along i can assure you they spent 9 months locked up in a house rehearsing, with beefheart himself only letting 1 person out at a time for groceries etc. perhps my favourite album of all time, absoulute genius check it out pat metheny - prog rock star of the 70s turns wacko super perfection musician of the 80s with his custom 48 string (i kid you not) guitar. i have an album by steve reich & pat metheny called different trains (i think) which is great (about 1988) the orb sampled part of one of the tracks (with no credit to him) for their opus little fluffy clouds |
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I love different trains. One of my favorite recordings of all time. |
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prog rock star? what the hell? |
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Old boredoms stuff is very much like this. The latest stuff is very organized and directed in it's intensity, but the old stuff is like "noise, crash, random off key guitar riff, silence, screams, blah blah" yet i do respect it loads and enjoy it on occasion. |
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beyond the missouri sky?????? whats this? |
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a pat metheny/charlie haden release. beautiful ballads. |
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oh, i think that song was actually written about my house, below the missouri sky, i gave them the rights, they paid me 14 dollars. |
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Are you thinking of Allan Holdsworth? Metheny was playing borderline traditional Jazz in the 70's with Gary Burton. What are you talking about with the prog rock? |
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Industro Garage Beats has a beat but it's the kinda of thing that would make ravers sick, so it's good... That and it's pure madness anyway... |
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Unlistenable songs, eh? Anything and everything by Noisex or Merzbow. Hmm, I find "Never Enough" by The Cure to be unbearably dull and crazy. The instruments don't sound right with one another. |
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merzbow and other jap noise artists i can understand, but noisex? do you even know who thay are? they aren't even noise...just a little cheesy underground industrial band who became somewhat popular by opening for vnv nation. do you honestly think that a band that had unlistenable sound, would open for such a poppy act like vnv? |
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EARTHLEAKAGE... i went and downloaded the orb song, but I could not hear any Pat Metheny samples in it... can you tell me more about what you mentioned, please? |
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I agree with everything! What a great website. |
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