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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 19:11 [#02264374]
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lets do some name dropping, shall we? Limewax is the best darkside warrior at the present. neuro-funk is split between Dom and C4C, i must say; while the best ez-rollers must be Spirit / Marcus Intalex etc...
enough Acid sounds in that sorta musix B]
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 19:14 [#02264377]
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wrong fucking board dude.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2009-01-13 19:32 [#02264384]
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Woah, woah, woah, slow down, lets see where he takes us with this.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:17 [#02264398]
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http://www.torontojungle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43439 that would fix everything ive said enough really. if you think your idm room is bigger and more advanced then dnb one.... think again :D
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:20 [#02264400]
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may not be the biggest but it's certanly the bestest.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 20:24 [#02264402]
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i don't think that. i just think it's not a dnb board. would you like to discuss bluegrass as well?
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:25 [#02264404]
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idm is on my watchlist for 7th year, buddy lets talk about idm then, why a not?? theres many afx twins around, AE took too much acid and lets seeee, boc havn't released anything in last two years
& u-ziq is pill kid apparently
dunno, not many things keep me interested in the genre nowadays
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:27 [#02264406]
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not even the new aphex haircut?
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:29 [#02264407]
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simpsons twins
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:37 [#02264413]
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edit: about ziq, that was a joke; i know he broke up with his wife, that must be sad [
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:40 [#02264415]
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hopefuly they'll get back together when he starts making more interesting music again.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:45 [#02264416]
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post better music or keep your thought to yourself.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2009-01-13 20:49 [#02264418]
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i would but we don't do piracy on this board.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 20:59 [#02264420]
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your own musix, i meant. maybe not posting so much would improve your skill, if you have any.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-13 21:06 [#02264421]
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ah, the old "let's see you do better" argument. how hackneyed.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-13 21:17 [#02264423]
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cause im in the progress of putting my site 2gether - once and for all, with my musix and fine artz :D
& stuff
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 02:13 [#02264452]
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well, i'd say this is much more relevant to the board than any of your french house threads. you of all people... you are incredible.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-14 03:16 [#02264480]
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considering there had been considerable interest and discussion of french house at the time, it seemed pretty apt to post about. same with dubstep.
on the other hand, i have never seen anybody talking about this dark dnb shiz or whatever other than this guy, who just pops in assuming we want to discuss his music.
also, when was the last time you saw me posting about french/electro-house? yawn, you can't seem to do much other than recycle and spew out the same boring cunty shit all the time.
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Advocate
on 2009-01-14 03:22 [#02264481]
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wow now, can't we discuss ALL the mostly crap sub genres of electronica -- idm and french house included?
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Advocate
on 2009-01-14 03:24 [#02264482]
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SYSTEM ERROR:
wow = woah
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 03:40 [#02264484]
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ya see, your problem is you dont freaking know about this music and you haven't heard of limewax, intalex and so on - you don't have a frame of reference and are discussing a genre of music you obviously know nothing about, its almost pathetic (and im not even saying that to add drama). it is clear for anyone who actually knows about about the culture around dubstep and drum n bass, that these two genres are deeply connected and that a lot of established dnb producers switched to dubstep when it was hype. you neglecting this thread, claiming that it is malplaced here on xltronic, is just absurd if we take your past on this board into consideration.
advocate: (!)
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2009-01-14 04:59 [#02264509]
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Drum and bass is dead, has been for years. When moving shadow stopped releasing they did it to keep the catalogue really good and not have it slowly die out with increasingly bland songs...
Saying that, this place needs to talk more about dnb and other electronicy but not electronica styles.
Hedphukkerr, you are an idiot. zilty = excellent electronic music.
Decent dnb = excellent electronic music. If you cannot see this then please "go forth and multiply"
Perhaps you only know modern dnb? Modern stuff is too highly polished, you could slip it in as backing track on masterchef and my mum wouldn't realise. Everything has this sort of child friendly sillyness to it. There are no dark tunes anymore. Even the ones which try to be sound polished. Why can't someone dust off the SH101, crank it up to 11 and let rip.
Proper stuff had a bit of grit to it. It's a sad state of affairs when some of my friends tell me they really like drum n bass (pendulum) yet I play anything decent from the 90s and they say it's boring or you can't dance to it, should sounds more like pendulum, too distorted etc etc.
Anyway, have some youtubes of great tracks from the past. here is Soundwall VIP by Dom and Roland. When I got the promo 12" of this it got played so loud when I got it home :)
this is off the best dnb album ever (Torque) from 1997.
Here is Trace's best song. I love mixing this in with the pinging panning sonar pulses. I'm going to steal Rephlex's word and say this is lush.
If that isn't excellent electronic music then clearly my lexicon is corrupt. zilty = purple monkey dishwasher. . brrzzpz bababaa gurgle gurgulegggg
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rad smiles
on 2009-01-14 05:17 [#02264516]
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wow. great songs. thx
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2009-01-14 06:53 [#02264539]
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Wow, headphukker, you remind me so much of someone I know who I am repulsed by. Take your genre-ist shenannigans elsewhere plz.... Wrong fucking whatever dude
I also want to big up the Remarc.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 07:00 [#02264541]
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Big up soundmurderer, chris mansell, photek, ltj bukem, enduser, intalex, a guy called gerald, plug, roni size and to some extend aphrodite.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2009-01-14 07:18 [#02264544]
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you seem to know your stuff and i would love to hear some recommendations from you that fit in with some of the following stuff:
dom&roland - industry (thanks ecnadniarb) teebee - through the eyes of a scorpion technical itch - diagnostics
but aside from this i really enjoy some slightly less dry and abstract stuff like andy C, MC'ing optional.
one or two essential album or mix recommendations would be much appreciated!
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 07:38 [#02264545]
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dave g, eat some acid, go to eib night (16th of this month in here) and come back here and type "dnb is dead" again
its dead comparing to the state it was in when i joined in (01)
so what? the same thing could be said about many many things nowadays.
thereis loads of dark shit going on in the scene, if you stoped looking and stick to your favorites, good luck
i did that for too long myself, ive moved on name dropping is a joke in the first place.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 07:48 [#02264548]
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name dropping is not a joke.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 08:08 [#02264550]
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its never gonna become as popular as rap or rock or anything of that sort.
because it was based around people getting high and dancing in clubs, like any other genre in the rave cattegory.
for that matter it has nothing to do with inteligent dance music
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 08:14 [#02264551]
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why? we were just name dropping.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 08:18 [#02264552]
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because its stupid talking about dnb as if it was a life or death duel
especially here - on idm board nuff pathetic dnb ones, with cuntfucking douchebags all across...
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-01-14 08:32 [#02264556]
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but we were just name dropping, why are you so angry at us
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2009-01-14 08:51 [#02264559]
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J198 - I will try and send you an email in the next few days.
outline aka6u9 :
I don't take drugs for a start. Secondly I live in England, so Toronto is a bit out of the way. I assume eib == bad company == )E|3(
I'm not sure about this name dropping "joke" you're on about either.
Perhaps my statement about drum and bass being dead was not factually correct. I should have perhaps said REAL drum and bass is dead.
One can go out and take acid(!) and enjoy recent dnb I'm sure. I know a lot of the more modern tunes (pendulum et al) are finding a new, more "mainstream" crowd, but this is dnb "lite".
This does not have reduced sugar and salt content, but has something more fundamental missing: the soul.
The older tunes were in some cases really quite highly produced, yet still had this feeling of being raw. I think one massive difference is that modern stuff is really "busy". There seems to always be some synth or vox or something, anything going on. Older stuff would bang out bar after bar of BOOM CHA drums and when the synth kicks in it was so much better. Less is more, and all that jazz.
Anyway, arguing on the internet is pointless, therefore I anoint myself as correct and you are therefore wrong.
Let's have some more youtubes.... hurrah
here is one of Optical's best with that hard to mix beat!
Bit of Boymerang from 96 on Prototype. This is the shiznits.
this is an absurb but fantastic classical + jungle fusion by DJ SS.
Finally, my all time favourite drum and bass song. Turn it up loud. This is _REAL_ drum and bass done to perfection :)
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-01-14 08:57 [#02264561]
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idm's la politique des auteurs in dbn!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2009-01-14 09:00 [#02264563]
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dnb, sorry
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 09:09 [#02264565]
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i dont know french. he's trying to gimmie a lesson, isnt that nice... dude, if you think i like the current dnb scene... think again, cause i hate it not less then you do for exact same reasons...
and then, my policy is - dnb is not a person, therefor it could not be dead or alive or ressurected nor undead...
w/e name drop all you wont its nice that theres someone whos trying to educate ppl with proper original vibe linkage
im from Kiev btw (an imigrant or some sort)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2009-01-14 10:34 [#02264584]
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hm, i guess people were interested. my guage of the board was off.
never seen people really discuss this before. that's all i was getting at in the first place.
yeesh.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-01-14 10:36 [#02264585]
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is this an idm forum? if it was, i'd have left years ago.
limewax is awesome by the way. remarc is still my fav dnb/jungle producer though. nice bloke too.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2009-01-14 10:38 [#02264587]
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i've been enjoying limewax a lot lately
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 10:41 [#02264589]
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he got what no1 else has in that bizzness ultimate acidik force that is. and so far, not many compared, although clearly he got his influences from peeps like tech itch, whom he substitutes just awesome imo
kristall wiezen is my current favorite.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2009-01-14 10:41 [#02264590]
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actually, scrap that... my favourite dnb producer is Skanna. He only released a few 12s but they really are next level.
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skeksi23
from ∆ on 2009-01-14 11:12 [#02264596]
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allow me to retort
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2009-01-14 13:29 [#02264641]
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I listened to Ed Rush & Optical's Wormhole the other day again, and it sounded so cheesy! I was so disappointed because it used to sound really dark and such, but I guess I've heard way too much truly terrifying stuff since then.
I've got to say that some of the Noisia stuff is pretty brutal, and I got this one Springheel Jack album that is worth checking that I cannot remember the name of (sorry!).
If you guys have soulseek and go into the IDM room and ask about some of those drum and bass classics... there are some real old schoolers there who know their stuff... including the cheesy stuff. I got a bunch of old Tom n jerry vinyl from one of the users there, and its gory cheese but fun
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2009-01-14 13:29 [#02264643]
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fucking too right
seems like i been misnaming it all these years...
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-01-14 15:08 [#02264665]
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I've got the logistics bootleg version of flying lotus - tea leaf dancers. it's tidy.
that is all.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2009-01-14 15:48 [#02264688]
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breakage is great and i'm saying this because somebody fucking well should. spiritualism, trans bohemian, losing track = bestestest
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2009-01-14 16:11 [#02264694]
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DJ Hazard's trax are well 'ard.
get the fuck up
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2009-01-14 16:42 [#02264700]
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indeed. breakage does sterling work.
very minimal sound too.
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outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-14 20:53 [#02264731]
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i have an idea. we need an insider to make it happen if theres a spy whos willing to soft-talk BOC, AE and AFX into making dnb.... that would be so awesome
theyre so much more advanced on average...
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entelechy
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2009-01-14 21:29 [#02264741]
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Spor, Ewun, Evol Intent. Satisfies the glitch quotent, and some of it is pretty impressive.
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