|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 09:12 [#02260117]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular
|
|
even more so...
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-21 09:27 [#02260120]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #02260083
|
|
You just missed the gosh darned point, by golly - that music is free. Intellectual property in general is free. It no longer has any monetary value.
|
|
mimi
on 2008-12-21 09:29 [#02260121]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #02260120
|
|
unlike being a call center drone, which is worth $12/hour...what if aphex has to work in a call center like me!! how will i sleep at night if his life sucks as bad as mine! he ei so talented!
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 09:32 [#02260123]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to mimi: #02260121
|
|
i find it fucking selfish of people to think they should be able to make a living off of art.
if rdj worked in a call center i bet we might actually be hearing a lot of those super secret amazing awesome mind blowing tracks he keeps claiming he has tucked away somewhere because he wouldnt be so fucking obsessed with people ripping him off.
|
|
mimi
on 2008-12-21 09:35 [#02260125]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260123
|
|
i was just kidding though, i think nobody should have to worry about "making a living" and i don't stay up at night worrying about these artist ninnies any more than i worry about anybody else whose life is wasted in this bullshit world
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 09:39 [#02260127]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to mimi: #02260125
|
|
i think people mistake my over use of the word "fuck" as antagonism rather than the fact that i just fucking love the word.
|
|
mimi
on 2008-12-21 09:40 [#02260130]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260127
|
|
control yourself man you are out of control!
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-21 09:41 [#02260132]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
|
|
get ready with net
*loads trank dart*
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 09:46 [#02260136]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular
|
|
you'll never take me alive!!!
GROOOOAAANNNN!!!!!
|
| Attached picture |
|
|
|
glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-12-21 11:09 [#02260143]
Points: 4211 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
lets get introduced to the concept of theft of services vs theft of goods. it is still a form of theft, like plugging into the neighbors cable or getting on their wi-fi. the fact that its not a physical item is irrelevant. scalping tickets is illegal, insider trading is illegal, all sorts of things people can do but society has deemed unlawful because they take advantage of the system and negatively impact others.
intellectual property can have value because the law says it does; the people say it does. i'm not saying that i don't think some degree of file sharing is ethical and reasonable to a certain point, but the mass distribution of entire albums with no intention to ever purchase is criminal and that is how black and white that is. sorry to ruffle feathers, but lets crack this enchanted illusion of justification we have here and at least be honest and say that a lot of people just don't give a shit.
|
|
rad smiles
on 2008-12-21 11:19 [#02260144]
Points: 5608 Status: Lurker
|
|
nothing beats the tangible version of an album anyways. most of us have jobs right? i download, but i buy my fair share too
|
|
rad smiles
on 2008-12-21 11:21 [#02260145]
Points: 5608 Status: Lurker | Followup to rad smiles: #02260144
|
|
but what i meant here is fuckin a its nice to have a flac version of astrobotnia 2
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-21 11:45 [#02260147]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to glasse: #02260143
|
|
That is some very nice self righteous language, but it doesn't change the fact that what was once scarce is now in such ridiculous oversupply that it's a chore to sift through it.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2008-12-21 11:46 [#02260148]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
pro piracy arguments ftl
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-12-21 11:47 [#02260149]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
this thread really delivers.
i never said anything about artists shouldnt be paid for their work, or shouldnt be able to make a living from their work.
my comparison was to some artists making millions of dollars for such bs (campitalism/consumerism/advertising, instead of their actual output/creation)...vs people who do things to push community forward (civil engineering, product design for real-world issue solving), etc.
i think they should all be paid, but sometimes the massive fluctuations between rich and poor artists is quite mindblowing, innit?
|
|
obara
from Utrecht on 2008-12-21 11:54 [#02260150]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular | Followup to cx: #02260100
|
|
merry xmas
|
| Attached picture |
|
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-21 12:04 [#02260152]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to elusive: #02260149
|
|
hahahahaha
who is john galt
|
|
dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-12-21 14:19 [#02260167]
Points: 12423 Status: Regular
|
|
just because it's theft doesn't mean it's wrong
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-12-21 14:39 [#02260171]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02260167
|
|
Exactly! Starvation might even enhance desirable traits in an artist, just as it brings out the cheekbones on a comely wench or the noble anatomy of a pedigreed dog.
|
|
dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-12-21 14:41 [#02260172]
Points: 12423 Status: Regular
|
|
:)
|
|
big
from lsg on 2008-12-21 16:02 [#02260185]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
illigal thread, touch my penis
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 17:36 [#02260194]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02260167
|
|
agreed!
you know that it used to be legal to enslave people? the law isn't always on the moral side.
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 18:16 [#02260203]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to glasse: #02260143
|
|
a little light reading by a guy who used to be just like you.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2008-12-21 18:23 [#02260204]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260203 | Show recordbag
|
|
you're making the world so much better with your illegal downloading
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 19:04 [#02260211]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular
|
|
if discovering new music and making it available to others is good, then hell yeah i am.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2008-12-21 19:05 [#02260212]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260211 | Show recordbag
|
|
your arguments are shallow
(i pirate as well but support too)
|
|
freqy
on 2008-12-21 19:16 [#02260213]
Points: 18724 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
aahrrr your a pirate hamster, disguised as a rich magician with wand type spliff. you've let your disguise slip, now walk the plank!
|
|
hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-12-21 19:18 [#02260214]
Points: 8833 Status: Regular | Followup to big: #02260212
|
|
have you not seen the seventeen posts i've made where i suggest supporting the artist as supplement?
yeah i don't do it often because i frankly can't afford it (i can barely make rent), but in that case it's not like i would have been buying the cds if they weren't freely available anyway.
|
|
big
from lsg on 2008-12-21 19:42 [#02260215]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260214 | Show recordbag
|
|
okay i didn't read that, but i don't agree with your second paragraph not us not let the love for music tear us apart though
my disguise is, freqy, i poked a hole in my eyepatch
|
|
glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-12-22 01:48 [#02260240]
Points: 4211 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
i read through that article, and i agree on some points. people should still buy music if they like it after downloading it, and not expect an artist to live off keychain sales. i've never put my time, heart and soul into a keychain. plus how many of us are into band merch? i don't think i even have a shirt with a band logo anymore.
yea the riaa sucks, but we don't listen to music on major labels mostly. in the cases of most artists i really like, i generally want to support the labels they are on as well as the artist.
anyway, there is no reason to put it all off on the failure of the industry to properly adapt. when i got most of my music by buying cds, i only usually ever bought a couple per month. i think most people can afford that so, if they download 50 and think 1 is the best, just buy that 1. then people continue to support the artists and labels we like and it maintains the need for competition, because the best artists are the ones who still get sales.
|
|
mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-12-23 00:27 [#02260350]
Points: 31229 Status: Regular | Followup to cygnus: #02260084 | Show recordbag
|
|
seen it yeasterday now what
|
|
obara
from Utrecht on 2009-01-17 05:39 [#02265401]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular
|
|
so_much_fun_ to_listen_to_rushup_edge_at_33_1/3
elusive_you_rock
|
|
big
from lsg on 2009-01-17 05:53 [#02265404]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
hello, this is the fbi, we confiscated big's account to tell you guys you are in big trouble!
|
|
obara
from Utrecht on 2009-01-17 06:08 [#02265405]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular
|
|
oh_crap
|
|
big
from lsg on 2009-01-17 06:09 [#02265406]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Followup to obara: #02265405 | Show recordbag
|
|
especially you mister!
signed, the feds
|
|
big
from lsg on 2009-01-17 06:10 [#02265407]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
how do we upload pictures?
|
|
obara
from Utrecht on 2009-01-17 07:22 [#02265419]
Points: 19377 Status: Regular | Followup to big: #02265407
|
|
What is Premium memberships? All members who donates at least $10 to Xltronic will be granted this kind of membership. It allows you to post pictures on the message and some other "yet-to-be-discovered" features.
btw is that you, Scully ?
|
|
big
from lsg on 2009-01-17 07:50 [#02265420]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
shit, how'd you know
*goes into hiding
|
|
big
from lsg on 2009-01-17 07:59 [#02265423]
Points: 23727 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
hello, it's big again, i suddenly got released
|
|
outline aka6u9
from toronto, kyiv (Canada) on 2009-01-19 23:29 [#02266294]
Points: 90 Status: Lurker
|
|
railway raver 4ever. should of make this topic 4 years ago
|
|
Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-19 23:45 [#02266298]
Points: 16982 Status: Regular | Show recordbag
|
|
illegal*
|
|
fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2009-01-20 00:15 [#02266300]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
|
|
Music is garbage. I'd pay Steve Jobs to come over and format my mp3 drive.
|
|
elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2009-01-20 07:55 [#02266387]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
the tuss sped down only 6% (sweet spot, IMHO) and shiz ko + 6.0%
http://www.sendspace.com/file/d325xb
|
|
rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2009-01-21 06:44 [#02266681]
Points: 954 Status: Regular
|
|
elusive i <3 U
|
|
Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2009-01-21 09:20 [#02266691]
Points: 16982 Status: Regular | Followup to hedphukkerr: #02260113 | Show recordbag
|
|
That's a convenient redefinition of 'piracy' you've got yourself, there.
|
|
Mask 500
from now on 2009-01-21 09:38 [#02266700]
Points: 500 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zephyr Twin: #02266691
|
|
That might have worked in the VHS and cassete tape days.
|
|
ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2009-02-16 11:13 [#02272879]
Points: 7846 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
|
|
got these from amazon yesterday:
Cylob - Cut the midrange drop the bass Cylob - Living in the 1980´s
enjoy!
|
|
TroutMask
from New York City (United States) on 2009-02-16 12:07 [#02272894]
Points: 472 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #02260152
|
|
The guy who made a speech in a book that was like 180 fucking pages.
Dude.
|
|
Powli
from Lawrence, KS on 2009-02-16 17:53 [#02272950]
Points: 797 Status: Regular
|
|
Titties.
|
|
Powli
from Lawrence, KS on 2009-02-16 17:55 [#02272951]
Points: 797 Status: Regular
|
|
Having an anti-piracy debate is the same as having an anti-glacier debate.
|
|
Messageboard index
|