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offline llc from United States on 2008-12-11 02:07 [#02258230]
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First of all, let me start by saying HOLY FUCKING SHIT
THANK YOU to bit bare for inadvertently showing me Philip
Glass.

I attained a few of his albums with the aid of the internets
today, and I must say... I fucking love this man. Everything
that I've heard of him is structurally similar to the type
of music I compose in my head while I'm at work (doing
repetitive, mundane tasks).

So far I've listened to Glassworks, Music With Changing
Parts, & Music in Twelve Parts. I can't find a song I don't
thoroughly enjoy listening to and focusing my thoughts on!

He is absolutely brilliant!


 

offline Fractal from New Metropolis (Slovakia) on 2008-12-11 04:25 [#02258238]
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true DAT, He is very originative and hiz albums are NICE &
SMOOTH composed..


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-12-11 07:20 [#02258269]
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yea, my favourite glass pieces are Music in Twelve Parts,
Einstein on the Beach, the opera Akhnaten, Strings Quartets
performed by Kronos Quartet, and Orion.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-12-11 08:34 [#02258274]
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metamorphosis gets me through my work day


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-12-11 12:15 [#02258310]
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havn't heard enough really. reccomend me stuff that's like
the candyman music (excellent music for a great film)


 

offline stoz on 2008-12-11 17:46 [#02258378]
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koyaanisqatsi is really good too, the film and the music.
'morning passages' off the hours soundtrack is one of my all
time favourites. he's even done an orchestration of icct
hedral, but im sure you knew that already :)


 

offline llc from United States on 2008-12-12 01:52 [#02258400]
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I'm currently listening to Einstein on the Beach. Fucking
fantastic shit here. AMPI MAX, anything and everything
listed in this thread is badass shit.

Philip Glass is like sex for your mind.

Don't believe me?

See for yourself. Not even the full song. ;)


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2008-12-12 03:49 [#02258410]
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Einstein on the Beach is good, Music in 12 parts is good.
Most of the rest is shitty.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-12 03:54 [#02258411]
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this is good, and relevant
i like koyaanisqatski and i like him in general. though
everything sounds too much the same. like always that
3+3+2+2 rhythm and the million soundtracks: i'm not
overjoyed when i'm in the theater and recognize yet again
his sound


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-12-12 06:06 [#02258414]
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he certainly has found a market for himself churning out
reiterations of his style, which is a shame, because most
people don't see in him an innovator


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-12 06:32 [#02258416]
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where's da beat?


 

offline llc from United States on 2008-12-12 12:00 [#02258460]
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It's difficult for me not to see him as innovative. :s

His music is obviously very repetitive structurally, but I
find it quite interesting to sit and concentrate on the
subtle changes in the music. There are lots of time
signature changes, and changes in the patterns as well. Very
interesting stuff!


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-12-12 12:01 [#02258461]
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i didn't like it


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-12-12 12:06 [#02258462]
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theatre? haha me and you are lovers from different worlds.
will you take me one day?


 

offline freqy on 2008-12-12 12:47 [#02258466]
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very transparent with his feel through sound i think he's
smashing.



 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-12 13:40 [#02258486]
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movie theatre

though i did go to the theatre the other day to see reich's
music for 18 musicians

anyhoo, llc, welcome to 20th century classical music


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-12-12 19:08 [#02258544]
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I love his Hamburger Hill theme, and the part in the movie
where the guy's head implodes.


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-12-12 19:26 [#02258545]
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he using similar constructing we here so often in electronic
music


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-13 03:24 [#02258582]
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do you mean philip glass' head?
that would explain alot


 

offline freqy on 2008-12-13 04:00 [#02258587]
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you actually saw and heard steve reich ?


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-13 04:15 [#02258588]
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heard alot of him live
especially LAZY_TITLE
at desert music The Man was there, wearing a baseball cap
and all <3


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-13 04:20 [#02258589]
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other relevant topic


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 02:55 [#02260709]
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It doesn't get more overrated than Philip Glass... well,
other than Radiohead, that is.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-12-25 05:46 [#02260715]
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how can anything be overrated anyway? overrated to you maybe
yes?

glass has his own way of arranging and composing, a lot of
fast staccatos and the like, you either like it or you
dont.
i like some of the moods he have, but not everything.
im not sure whos overrating him, but if they are thats their
choice, and your opinion is worth no more than theirs.

as far as radiohead goes, they have some brilliant melodies
and riffs, and the sound is good, specially on ok computer
and the bends..

thom yorke has a lot of emotion in his music, ironically
enough i didnt find much emotion on the eraser though.



 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-25 10:38 [#02260745]
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My judgment of Glass being overrated stems from the common
belief that the man did something innovative/challenging
with his compositions. I refuse to believe that he is a
minimalist composing master when folks like Terry Riley,
John Adams, Steve Reich, and even Brian Eno struggle for the
same recognition with not nearly the equal amount of
respect. Not that respect matters at all, but Glass pretty
much "stole" their concepts without adding anything unique
of his own to the table.

My thing about Radiohead is just out of complete puzzlement
- they sound like a very average rock band to me. But,
they've been made out to be the next Beatles... but I can't
tell what they've done compositionally or on the production
side of things that would suggest this. No hostility
intended with my comments, either way...


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-26 04:40 [#02260835]
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he isn't highly rated at all, not by people that know about
classical music
the thing i linked as good and relevant is just that, and
very minimalistic


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-12-26 21:30 [#02260913]
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it#s fcuking christmas you miserable spunkbubble


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-12-26 21:53 [#02260915]
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fast & bulbous


 

offline PS on 2008-12-26 23:03 [#02260917]
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the mascara snake

Has anyone ever listened to all 12 Parts in one sitting?
Yes, some people have. I either fall asleep or get a
headache; too much pulsing goodness for my tastes.

Ohhh, an evening with Phillip Glass. Just an evening?


 

offline TroutMask from New York City (United States) on 2008-12-27 00:43 [#02260922]
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I'm Jewish... =D

Props for the insult, though. Spunkbubble has got to be one
of the funniest words I've heard in a long time.


 

offline llc from United States on 2008-12-27 02:40 [#02260932]
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I think the man did something very innovative with his
compositions. To say that he stole concepts from people like
Reich and Riley is ridiculous. Glass is more of just taking
one melody line and arranging it in as many ways as he can.
In his earlier work, he uses a great deal of time signature
changes in addition rhythmic & structural change.

Many other minimalist classical composers also use the same
idea of basing an entire piece off one main melody, though
each utilizes their own techniques & ideas. For example,
Reich is known for his use of phasing in a great deal of his
work.


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-12-27 03:28 [#02260937]
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Reich's last use of phasing was on Piano Phase from 1971
btw.. His sixth work.

TroutMask, just want to comment on the radiohead thing.
Radiohead may be a pretty normal rock band, on the
surface..
But if you dig deeper you realize the innovative and
emotional nature of their albums.
Many songs I presume Thom have written, really do have
outstanding harmonies and melodies, and the way they mix
electronic instruments in isn't normal for a rock band (at
least not back then)

I think the album OK Computer really is outstanding in most
tracks, and I feel it does deserve the recognition it has
gotten, maybe not BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME, but certainly it
deserves mention..


 

offline spelunker on 2008-12-27 21:08 [#02261052]
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Einstein on the beach, just listened to it, can't stand the
voices. I'm a little anti-human voice though.

I thought it was decent though. Not my thing I guess.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-12-28 05:15 [#02261076]
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It's true that Philip Glass made it big, in a way that the
earlier minimalists didn't, but sometimes life's not fair.
And besides, being willing to work with different producers,
for Hollywood and TV, and with rock musicians has been a
wise step for Glass. You can't really expect people to know
about Riley with the sort of laid-back art house avant garde
attitude that he's coming from. And isn't that the point of
avant garde - not being famous? :)

Reich and Glass were buddies in New York, and undoubtedly
they influenced each other, but this is no secret. Also, the
influences went both ways.

I think Glass hasn't done anything all that new or
innovative since the 70's, and I think that's a conscious
choice. He's milking his style for all it's worth. But his
early and mid-period stuff is still pretty cool, and
certainly contains elements that are not found in La Monte
Young, Terry Riley or Steve Reich, like the re-invention of
the opera form and a focus on a specific type of
string/wind/keyboard ensemble.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-12-28 06:32 [#02261081]
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listen to the dawg


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-10-10 21:18 [#02335400]
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i like this


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2009-10-12 09:19 [#02335788]
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There are some tracks on the show "Look Around You" that
remind me of Philip Glass. Maybe look into that if you're
searching for music similar to his and all else fails.


 


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