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offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-13 18:08 [#02252215]
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Doesn't it annoy you when you listen to a weirdly staggered
album, in which the best track is the first?

I found this with I Care Because You Do- I wish the other
tracks were like the first. It is a really messy album.
Usually I don't mind this, but it is a bit crap with that
album.

I found it with other albums too, but I can't think o' them
just now.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2008-11-13 18:09 [#02252216]
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Wrong.


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-11-13 18:49 [#02252225]
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Wrong.


 

offline cyrstal dude from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-11-13 18:53 [#02252228]
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icbyd isa pretty solid album, imo.

it seems like a strong influence on early boc, and where
would we be without those guys?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-13 19:05 [#02252229]
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Alberto Balsalm is the best track. Youtube is great for
listening to music, but unfortunately you have to minize the
window because there's always some unfittingly shit video
tied to it.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-11-13 19:24 [#02252234]
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hearing it first in '94 before hearing anything after it
probably helps.

actually, it was the 1st aphex i ever heard i think. i
didn't hear the old afx stuff until later.

also, he was a bit more avant/experimental back then, a side
of him that is somewhat missed.


 

offline PORICK from fucking IRELAND on 2008-11-13 21:33 [#02252245]
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Youtube is great for listening to music

you do know it's 96kbit audio


 

offline ph from United States on 2008-11-13 22:07 [#02252251]
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ICBYD is overshadowed by the later Richard D. James album.
the latter of which seems to be mastered nicer so it doesn't
make your ears bleed at high volumes (that monstrous
treble).

I like "messy" albums; like the (mostly hated) "Vincent
Gallo - Recordings Of Music For Film" work. (I'm preparing
for the flack on that one now.)

but "Alberto Balsalm" kills almost everything on the D James
album.



 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-11-13 22:49 [#02252257]
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haha yeah, the track is awesome, but the rest of the album
is just as good (or better, when referring to tracks like
alberto balsalm.)


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-13 22:59 [#02252259]
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My 5$ speakers will probably make anything sound like that
anyway, if the audio part of my brain can even distinguish
the difference.


 

offline morge from United Kingdom on 2008-11-14 02:10 [#02252278]
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I Care Because You Do is an amazing album. Totally unique
feeling about it.
Acrid Avid Jam and Alberton Balsam obviously amazing tracks
but Moo Kid and Wax the Nip are both incredibly beautiful.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-11-14 03:12 [#02252282]
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ICBYD is pretty inconsistent...

I'd rate them:

Acrid Avid Jam Shred- 5/5
The Waxen Pith- 2.5/5
Wax The Nip- 1/5
Icct Hedral - 2/5
Ventolin- 4/5
Come On You Slags!- 0/5
Start As You Mean To Go On 2.5/5
Wet Tip Hen Ax- 4/5
Mookid- 5/5
Alberto Balsalm- 4/5
Cow Cud Is A Twin- 4/5
Next Heap With- 1/5


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-11-14 03:17 [#02252284]
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fuck off.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-11-14 03:19 [#02252285]
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ok :(


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-11-14 03:19 [#02252286]
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The good songs of course, more than make up for the bad
ones.

As with all Aphex releases.


 

offline ph from United States on 2008-11-14 03:23 [#02252287]
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I would rate Wolfslice's ratings as 2/5...
but would rate his previous comment to be 5/5.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-11-14 03:25 [#02252288]
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...I let you down Xltronic.

I need to do some soul searching.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-11-14 03:26 [#02252289]
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you cant fucking rate an album like that.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-11-14 03:29 [#02252290]
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I was just rating the individual songs. Mookid in particular
is probably my favorite RDJ song ever, so the album would
have to place highly just for that. Acrid Avid Jam Shred is
a masterpiece as well.

I'm sorry for typing numbers :'(

never again.


 

offline ph from United States on 2008-11-14 03:37 [#02252292]
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I like all of this rating stuff,
especially when you don't give damn about the repercussions,
like myself.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-11-14 04:40 [#02252310]
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i falled in love with that album,
the cover and art are amazing


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-11-14 04:44 [#02252311]
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Honoring.


Attached picture

 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-14 05:51 [#02252317]
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Aphex Twin can read braille with his penis.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2008-11-14 06:21 [#02252329]
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I rate the album {a1 + c1 == 3, b1 + d1 == 4, a2 + c2 == 6,
b2 + d2 == -5}


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-14 10:01 [#02252381]
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Don't dont get me wrong guys, ICBYD is still my fave AFX
release.

But come on, 'come on you slags'? It shows Richie's sense of
humour, whih is cool I guess, but before that the album is
so contemoprary, abstract and kinda arty. Such an unwelcome
change of pace in my book. And whether you think it's good
or not, it's just shows RDJ doesn't give a shit about what
people think of his shit. Or at least, had stopped caring at
that point. =)


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-11-14 10:40 [#02252396]
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I don't follow your argument. You say the album is abstract
and kindy arty and then changes pace? Changes pace to
what, pedestrian and predictable? The fact it changes pace
means it continues to be abstract and "kinda arty"... if
indeed it is abstract and "kinda arty"... It's an Aphex Twin
album, it has a mix of styles, but it works, IMHO, as a
cohesive whole and, FOR ME, is a more satisfactory listen
than Richard D James album, and not as demanding and schizo
as Drukqs.

Maybe you just don't like some of the tracks, which is fine,
but don't try to make out it's some universal opinion that
everyone's pretending not to admit to.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-11-14 11:33 [#02252401]
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spot on


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2008-11-14 11:35 [#02252402]
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come on you slags is good you slags


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-11-14 11:55 [#02252404]
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word


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-11-14 15:33 [#02252434]
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"SlipDrinkMats: On point for 1637 posts, and counting."


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2008-11-14 20:25 [#02252500]
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buffalo springfield
you know this song been sampled and covered
a billion times. i downed three albums, all shite.
except that one first song:
for what its worth...


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-15 09:30 [#02252614]
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You make a very good argument.

However, I am still unconvinced. The album is far less
focused than other AFX released. Take Melodies from Mars,
for example. That album is weird, quirky and pretty funny,
but coherent. AFX's music can be weird as it likes, it is
just that the first half of ICBYD is fucking ace, but the
style peters out into different things later on. Plus, there
are only about 5 tracks on the album that I am really crazy
about, which leaves me feeling shortchanged and unsatisfied
when I listen to the album.

In response to which genre or style the other tracks are,
let me just say that, contrary to what you seem to think
there are more adjectives than can be used to describe music
other than arty, abstract, pedestrian and predicatable.
Mookid is chilled out and has an African feel. Cow Cud is
funky and kindy dreamy, not stoic, abstract, dramatic as are
only 5 tracks on the album. See?

No other album is so messy as this, which still annoys me.

ijonspeches, glad you agree on the general first track good,
rest album bad thing. =)

It is not with all albums I listen to, just a few.

And to make a concession, maybe other AFX albums are just as
messy as this. It may be just because the first track speaks
to me on such a personal level that I wanted to the other
tracks to be in a similar style. Therefore this messy AFX
release sticks out in my mind, while others may exist.

But I still think that it is a stylistically messy album,
nonetheless.


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-11-15 09:39 [#02252616]
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First four songs good the rest shit goes to Nite Flights by
The Walker Brothers (the first four being Scott Walker
songs, the rest.. not).


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-15 09:48 [#02252621]
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I haven't heard of that, but I'll look it up.

You "follow my argument" now though? Even if you disagree,
you must see what I mean.


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-11-15 10:06 [#02252625]
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I do follow your argument, I did originally compose (and I
mean *compose* and not simply *write*) a follow up about
Aphex "albums" and those which sound like "compilations" and
which sound like cohesive "albums" but then, after the
strenuous use of figurative speech marks, and bringing into
argument the whole concept of what constitutes "An Album", I
grew weary and unsure of my take on the whole "argument".

I think we could agree that ICBYD is patchy... though patchy
in the sense I like all the tracks but it's maybe three
albums packed into one, which is not neccessarily A Bad
Thing.

What I would say was A Good Thing is an album that you can
say "YES! Now that's ... an album". A lot of "albums" do
sound like a collection of tracks... I think it takes art to
make.. "an album"... I'm growing tired of my misuse of ""
... and I just upset myself thinking of some compilations
that work as great albums (Artficial Intelligence,
Philosophy of Sound and Machine, Substance, insert some jazz
or other worthy collection here)


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-15 15:00 [#02252697]
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Fairplay.

It is patchy, but works for some, partly because it is AFX,
so not typically cohesive.

It is a fucking good album anyway. That much is
indisputable. =)


 


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