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offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:12 [#00147793]
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I'm sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but the
other day Pi was on tv and I watched it. It was fucking
marvellous, a really good film. Only thing is, he kept
reminding me of moby with a bald head and in a room on his
own in NY with lots of geat surrounding him...not that I'm
comparing them..


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:13 [#00147795]
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gear^


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:14 [#00147796]
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Mmmmm grand movie,,,do you think it was more effective being
black n white?


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:15 [#00147801]
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I think with his fits, probably yeah, it added a weird chaos
to it..


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:17 [#00147806]
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Yeah, i agree.

I like the idea of everything connected by numbers and
equations, because its not fiction, its real! Thats shit
really makes you think eh?


 

offline steve from chicago on 2002-03-28 23:18 [#00147812]
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One of those movies that get the old brain juices flowing.
Fortunately I made no connection between Moby and Max when I
originally saw it, or it probably would have slightly ruined
the experience.


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:20 [#00147816]
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i hear dat steve.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-03-28 23:25 [#00147825]
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I was very disappointed in Pi (apart from the soundtrack).
It was a painful movie to watch. I think the point of the
movie was to show the danger in trying to find the meaning
of life - but it was executed in such a goofy manner with
all the technobabble and such.

in my opinion...


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:28 [#00147831]
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i think it was supposed to be a lil over the top, at least
thats what i thought.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:28 [#00147832]
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wow, someone who didnt like it. fair enough.

btw if you liked PI you'll love Eraserhead by David Lynch :
)


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:29 [#00147834]
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Requim for a Dream is also very good by the same director
Darren Aronofsky (sp?)


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:30 [#00147836]
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pantalaimon - can you tell me what eraserhead is about?

Ive heard about it on this messageboard but the movie seems
to be a hard one to find.


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:37 [#00147855]
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explain what its about, are you mad??

seriously though its a difficult film to describe.

all i can say without ruining the film is that its in b/w,
very stylish, has black humour and its phsycologically
disturbing : )


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:43 [#00147878]
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Pi is a great movie. I love the high-contrast black & white
reversal film. Looks seriously bad ass on dvd too.


 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-03-29 00:21 [#00147943]
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steve: were you at the plaid gig in chicago?


 

offline TrevorGod from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-29 00:29 [#00147950]
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Well the moby-Pi comment just might have ruined the movie
for me.... Nah it's too good to be brought down even by
Moby's bald bitchy head. I loved the High contrast black
and white with the hard fast cuts. Aronofsky's Requiem
for a Dream is one of the most powerful movies I have ever
seen.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:36 [#00147968]
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I just saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I
thought the same thing about the moby resemblence! It was a
pretty good movie, though at some parts I thought it moved
too slow. Those heebs really wanted that fuckin number,
huh?


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-03-29 00:40 [#00147981]
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What's PI about?

lol sorry, i heard alot about it, but I've never seen it.


 

offline B3n from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-29 00:43 [#00147985]
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Have you guys seen Shine? I like that too..


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:44 [#00147988]
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It's about this guy who see's everything in nature as math
and understands how math effects everything around us


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:44 [#00147989]
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The soundtrack is fuckin great


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-03-29 00:48 [#00147996]
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Yeah i have the soundtrack, but never saw them movie. It
sounds pretty cool, i'll have to check it out.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:49 [#00148000]
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a man who seeks to undersatand the meaning of . it has a
good soundtrack too.


 

offline Martytan from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:50 [#00148003]
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*the meaning of pi (3.14159.....)



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-03-29 00:55 [#00148016]
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Pi is a good movie, the soundtrack is just as good as well,
do as I did.. and pick it up!


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-29 08:43 [#00148629]
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Weird...I watched in this morning at about 5AM...

Fancied a night awake as some bit of desgin work to do and
you gotta go for it when inspiration strikes...

Trouble is, the piece is now in Black n White...a la the
style of PI....

I just love that whole grainy look...even better on DVD...


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-03-29 08:50 [#00148643]
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yeah
the graininess on DVD
totally awesome
especially on a high-res editting monitor

another great grainy DVD
is 'Coven' on the American Movie disc


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 09:25 [#00148677]
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that movie is my all time fav. i've loved it for the longest
time, and can identify with max on so many lvls. just make
him angsty, into making music on his computer, recluse
style, (like he does on his stock market agenda), and make
him more atheletic, and you have me. replace the math genius
with creativity.

heh, i also whent as max cohen for a "after holloween"
party, i just dressed up with a simular jacket he has, and
drew those four dots, and that box on his head on mine. (i
naturally shave my head). the funny thing is that i have
this redish dotty semi mole (it's flat, and isn't ugly [i
hope you ppls know what i'm talking about] right where max
has that wired growth. and that's where i drew it. since
that party was a "High-q" pot party of like 12 ppl, they all
knew who i was...check and mate....


 

offline Omneignotumus on 2002-03-29 12:52 [#00148829]
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Coven is awesome. I wish I had a copy of that on DVD (does
it exist?)


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:55 [#00148832]
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yep, i have it


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:28 [#00149559]
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Here's what I got out of the movie. Numbers and mathematics
are one of the many ways to describe and map existence.
Since existence is infinitely interterconnected, mathematics
is infinite in it's interconnections and there will always
be room for deeper progress in the field of mathematics. No
matter how profound the implications of mathematics, it will
not lead to an answer directly i.e. finding god in a
specific and exclusive number or successfully predicting
something as chaotic as the stock market (which may in fact
be influenced by infinite variables). Max realizes this
when the Jewish numerologists are going mad and trying to
get the number from him and he says something like "it's
just a number. it's what's between the numbers that
counts." The issue that Max's mentor ran into that made him
give up his search was the realization of the infinite
aspect of math, which he made clear when he told Max that he
would find the 212 digit number everywhere, because it IS
everywhere and because of the infinte nature of
math/existence. In the end I think Max realized the actual
beauty/Godliness/divinity of what lies between the lines and
numbers. Instead of drawing the Golden Mean Spiral and
obssessing over it and learning the intimate mathematic
details of it one can merely glance at a conch (sp?) shell
and realize the miraculous nature of such a thing using
intuition rather than actually going the long route of logic
and using the numerical measurements which is what Max had
been doing all his life. This final ralization that max mad
is seen when he is admiring the beauty of the leaf.


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:33 [#00149575]
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mmm...you got it man.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:58 [#00149635]
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i don't think even darren aronofsky knows the true meaning
behind the mathematics in the film :-) great movie though.



 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:59 [#00149641]
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agreed xlr.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-30 00:10 [#00149667]
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xlr, it's amazing what people produce that they are unaware
of. universal truths and incredible things seep into our
creations without us knowing.

Ae for example. In an interview of theirs they talk about
how they will start to use a new idea in their work, and
then they realize they've already begun using these ideas
unconsciously in previous work. I've witnessed this in my
own writing for school. A friend of mine wrote a paper
implying some profound meanings in the movie Rebel Without A
Cause. I could see clearly everything he brought up but
there is no way it was at all conscious by the director or
writers at the time.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-30 03:19 [#00149887]
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Yeah, i've noticed that has a tendency to happen a lot.

BTW how the hell do i do a followup? i click the message
number but it never works.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-30 03:33 [#00149910]
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when i click the message number it sends me down to the
reply box. then i just reply as normal. nano tipped me off
on this.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-30 07:33 [#00150225]
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actually on the director's commentary on the dvd darren
speaks of how he was told of a guy who did simular
algorithim work on the stock market, and ever since he's
kinda been obscessed


 


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