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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:12 [#00147793]
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I'm sorry, I know this has been discussed before, but the other day Pi was on tv and I watched it. It was fucking marvellous, a really good film. Only thing is, he kept reminding me of moby with a bald head and in a room on his own in NY with lots of geat surrounding him...not that I'm comparing them..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:13 [#00147795]
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gear^
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:14 [#00147796]
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Mmmmm grand movie,,,do you think it was more effective being black n white?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:15 [#00147801]
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I think with his fits, probably yeah, it added a weird chaos to it..
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:17 [#00147806]
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Yeah, i agree.
I like the idea of everything connected by numbers and equations, because its not fiction, its real! Thats shit really makes you think eh?
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steve
from chicago on 2002-03-28 23:18 [#00147812]
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One of those movies that get the old brain juices flowing. Fortunately I made no connection between Moby and Max when I originally saw it, or it probably would have slightly ruined the experience.
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:20 [#00147816]
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i hear dat steve.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-03-28 23:25 [#00147825]
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I was very disappointed in Pi (apart from the soundtrack). It was a painful movie to watch. I think the point of the movie was to show the danger in trying to find the meaning of life - but it was executed in such a goofy manner with all the technobabble and such.
in my opinion...
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:28 [#00147831]
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i think it was supposed to be a lil over the top, at least thats what i thought.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:28 [#00147832]
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wow, someone who didnt like it. fair enough.
btw if you liked PI you'll love Eraserhead by David Lynch : )
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:29 [#00147834]
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Requim for a Dream is also very good by the same director Darren Aronofsky (sp?)
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:30 [#00147836]
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pantalaimon - can you tell me what eraserhead is about?
Ive heard about it on this messageboard but the movie seems to be a hard one to find.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-28 23:37 [#00147855]
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explain what its about, are you mad??
seriously though its a difficult film to describe.
all i can say without ruining the film is that its in b/w, very stylish, has black humour and its phsycologically disturbing : )
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-28 23:43 [#00147878]
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Pi is a great movie. I love the high-contrast black & white reversal film. Looks seriously bad ass on dvd too.
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leftrightronic
on 2002-03-29 00:21 [#00147943]
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steve: were you at the plaid gig in chicago?
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-29 00:29 [#00147950]
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Well the moby-Pi comment just might have ruined the movie for me.... Nah it's too good to be brought down even by Moby's bald bitchy head. I loved the High contrast black and white with the hard fast cuts. Aronofsky's Requiem for a Dream is one of the most powerful movies I have ever seen.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:36 [#00147968]
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I just saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I thought the same thing about the moby resemblence! It was a pretty good movie, though at some parts I thought it moved too slow. Those heebs really wanted that fuckin number, huh?
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Asche XL
on 2002-03-29 00:40 [#00147981]
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What's PI about?
lol sorry, i heard alot about it, but I've never seen it.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-29 00:43 [#00147985]
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Have you guys seen Shine? I like that too..
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:44 [#00147988]
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It's about this guy who see's everything in nature as math and understands how math effects everything around us
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:44 [#00147989]
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The soundtrack is fuckin great
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Asche XL
on 2002-03-29 00:48 [#00147996]
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Yeah i have the soundtrack, but never saw them movie. It sounds pretty cool, i'll have to check it out.
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Martytan
from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:49 [#00148000]
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a man who seeks to undersatand the meaning of . it has a good soundtrack too.
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Martytan
from somewhere in upstate new york (United States) on 2002-03-29 00:50 [#00148003]
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*the meaning of pi (3.14159.....)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-03-29 00:55 [#00148016]
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Pi is a good movie, the soundtrack is just as good as well, do as I did.. and pick it up!
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-29 08:43 [#00148629]
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Weird...I watched in this morning at about 5AM...
Fancied a night awake as some bit of desgin work to do and you gotta go for it when inspiration strikes...
Trouble is, the piece is now in Black n White...a la the style of PI....
I just love that whole grainy look...even better on DVD...
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2002-03-29 08:50 [#00148643]
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yeah the graininess on DVD totally awesome especially on a high-res editting monitor
another great grainy DVD is 'Coven' on the American Movie disc
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 09:25 [#00148677]
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that movie is my all time fav. i've loved it for the longest time, and can identify with max on so many lvls. just make him angsty, into making music on his computer, recluse style, (like he does on his stock market agenda), and make him more atheletic, and you have me. replace the math genius with creativity.
heh, i also whent as max cohen for a "after holloween" party, i just dressed up with a simular jacket he has, and drew those four dots, and that box on his head on mine. (i naturally shave my head). the funny thing is that i have this redish dotty semi mole (it's flat, and isn't ugly [i hope you ppls know what i'm talking about] right where max has that wired growth. and that's where i drew it. since that party was a "High-q" pot party of like 12 ppl, they all knew who i was...check and mate....
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Omneignotumus
on 2002-03-29 12:52 [#00148829]
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Coven is awesome. I wish I had a copy of that on DVD (does it exist?)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:55 [#00148832]
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yep, i have it
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:28 [#00149559]
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Here's what I got out of the movie. Numbers and mathematics are one of the many ways to describe and map existence. Since existence is infinitely interterconnected, mathematics is infinite in it's interconnections and there will always be room for deeper progress in the field of mathematics. No matter how profound the implications of mathematics, it will not lead to an answer directly i.e. finding god in a specific and exclusive number or successfully predicting something as chaotic as the stock market (which may in fact be influenced by infinite variables). Max realizes this when the Jewish numerologists are going mad and trying to get the number from him and he says something like "it's just a number. it's what's between the numbers that counts." The issue that Max's mentor ran into that made him give up his search was the realization of the infinite aspect of math, which he made clear when he told Max that he would find the 212 digit number everywhere, because it IS everywhere and because of the infinte nature of math/existence. In the end I think Max realized the actual beauty/Godliness/divinity of what lies between the lines and numbers. Instead of drawing the Golden Mean Spiral and obssessing over it and learning the intimate mathematic details of it one can merely glance at a conch (sp?) shell and realize the miraculous nature of such a thing using intuition rather than actually going the long route of logic and using the numerical measurements which is what Max had been doing all his life. This final ralization that max mad is seen when he is admiring the beauty of the leaf.
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:33 [#00149575]
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mmm...you got it man.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:58 [#00149635]
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i don't think even darren aronofsky knows the true meaning behind the mathematics in the film :-) great movie though.
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-03-29 23:59 [#00149641]
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agreed xlr.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-30 00:10 [#00149667]
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xlr, it's amazing what people produce that they are unaware of. universal truths and incredible things seep into our creations without us knowing.
Ae for example. In an interview of theirs they talk about how they will start to use a new idea in their work, and then they realize they've already begun using these ideas unconsciously in previous work. I've witnessed this in my own writing for school. A friend of mine wrote a paper implying some profound meanings in the movie Rebel Without A Cause. I could see clearly everything he brought up but there is no way it was at all conscious by the director or writers at the time.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-30 03:19 [#00149887]
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Yeah, i've noticed that has a tendency to happen a lot.
BTW how the hell do i do a followup? i click the message number but it never works.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-03-30 03:33 [#00149910]
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when i click the message number it sends me down to the reply box. then i just reply as normal. nano tipped me off on this.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-30 07:33 [#00150225]
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actually on the director's commentary on the dvd darren speaks of how he was told of a guy who did simular algorithim work on the stock market, and ever since he's kinda been obscessed
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