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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-20 06:17 [#02246837]
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Bass++
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-20 06:42 [#02246839]
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you are pretty slow aren't ya?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-20 06:43 [#02246840]
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yeah it takes some time! but man when it does..
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-20 07:12 [#02246846]
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check out the villalobos remix of blood on your hands.
also shackletons latest.. but you've probably already heard that (i hope).
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-20 07:22 [#02246849]
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k i will =) which is shackletons's latest? not that i'm lazy to search by myself, just to be sure.
you know, shackleton is definately overcoming burial in my tastes, although he seems to do not have the burial's attitude to make every track sound like a little story. it seems the missing ring between burial and deepchord, but of course i'm starting to talk a lot of bullshit here.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-20 07:36 [#02246853]
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i dont think there is any comparison between shackleton and burial, its two totally different things. shackleton has a much more minimalistic approach and thats why he is currently remixing minimal techno. shackletons latest is called soundboy's suicide note btw.
i do not understand how you can compare it to deepchord tho, its something completely different, rod modell is rod modell and burial is burial. originators in their fields.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-20 07:42 [#02246854]
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i knew that you would have answered that way ;-) i'm sure there is no technical comparison but the way those three make me feel.. is rather comparable =) also i wouldn't rule out that Shackleton does listen to Burial and viceversa.. anyway
Soundboy's Suicide Note.. you mean zis?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-20 07:51 [#02246856]
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yes its that one.
if you listen to the roots of dubstep compilation, you will understand a lot of whats going on in the dubstep scene. its basicly all replica from there on. nearly all the 2step comes from el-b's express track (a theory of mine, do not crush me - oh mighty xlt) - now, im at work, so i cant really say this 100 procent, but there is a track with oriental percussion on that compilation as well.. i suspect that shackleton is heavily inspired by this as well.
again, there is no comparison between burial, shackleton and deepchord. i mean, deepchord is a whole other genre, its not even close to either of them.
keep listening tho, if you think you've get the same vibe from these 3 artists, see how they work together in a mix - maybe you'll get lucky.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-20 07:58 [#02246857]
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at work? you're not alone
roots of dubstep.. yumm not even know that existed, thanks for the headz up! i'll report back as soon as i checked out the stuff you mention, eventually with more evidence of my comparisons, haha.. cheers!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-20 11:42 [#02246874]
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so long as it sounds good, who the fuck cares what it was derived from?
shackelton's latest is good by the way, except for the first track, which is a real snore.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-21 02:42 [#02246955]
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yeah, talking about music pisses you off. how can you be taken seriously?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-10-21 02:48 [#02246956]
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sorry, i just thought you were being your usual pissy self and just saying it was shit for being derivative.
whatevs.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-10-21 02:52 [#02246957]
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firstly, i would be careful what you are saying now. you probably need to read this whole conversation again. secondly, why do you feel the need to intervene in a perfectly normal discussion about music when you've got absolutely nothing to say?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-21 06:23 [#02246977]
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yo chuck, first, thanks for suggesting that compilation, its really fucking cool. props to the guys who compiled it!
listening to the El-b tracks made me think.. not at some influence he had on Shackleton, but the ones he had on Burial, they're so evident! those specific 'thud' snares on Express, they're very common in Burial's music. if i was a hater i would guess if he sampled them.. but ima lover and i like to think they were just an inspiration for him. Nedless to say that Bury's (Original Mix) drums are the idea that developed into Archangel so.. more than an originator i'd say of Burial that he is a refiner of this music, in the most respectful sense. i remember that i read some interview where he is easy on saying that El-b was his biggest inspiration, and this compilation reveals it clearly.
about the ethnic tracks on the comp.. i don't think that some simple tabla pattern with some atmospheric samples of voice or reverbered percussion put here and there on a garage beat can explain the ethnic influence of Shackleton's music, especially on the latest compositions he clearly demostrates that he likes to listen to Arab music, with the use of pitch, with the variety of the samples he uses and the way he joins them together. i gave a Shackleton session to my ears and found the connection with deepchord in the soundscapes (the layers of noise and pads) he create to surround his beat, would it be made of percussions, subs or kick drums.
i'm really diggin the evolution of this guy's music, perhaps cos i had similar ideas in mind but i wasn't enough resolved to realize them, so i'm just glad that someone is doin it good!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-10-21 10:11 [#02246999]
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check out the villalobos remix of blood on your hands.
shackleton's remix of minimoonstar is way cooler!
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