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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-17 14:02 [#02246306]
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Forgive me for making obscure accusations, but has anyone heard of an American IDM artist called Fluorescent Grey?
If so, would anyone agree that Amon Tobin sorta, well, not 'nicked', but utilised and made a lot of money out of the idea of using water as percussion. This of course is Fluorescent Grey's idea originally (to my knowledge at least...)
Track 12: song made entirely out of water
More Fluorescent Grey
Tobin's Foley Room was released after Fluorescent Grey's , so it is possible.
Even if it's not true (I guess we'll never really know) I would like to bring this artist to attention. He has his own record label, makes interesting music and teaches electronic music, so he is a pretty interesting and cool guy.
Check the geeza out!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-17 15:29 [#02246327]
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Cornelius released Drop before both of those and many other people had the idea before him I'm sure, it's bound to happen with something as general as using water noises in a rhythmic way. I even did a song using flushing toilets and the like before both those releases you mentioned came out, perhaps Fluorescent Grey and Amon Tobin should come round and paint my house.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-10-17 16:11 [#02246339]
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Well, have you heard "Water Music" by Toru Takemitsu? I don't even know how old it is, but it's from tape experimentation era. As much as I like Amon Tobin, I think this track puts "Kitchen Sink" to shame,
Also, I refuse to listen to your tracks.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-17 16:36 [#02246343]
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I didn't listen to them either so I'm not even sure we're talking about the same thing.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-10-17 16:56 [#02246348]
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I was actually refering to Tractern as "you". But I recommend that piece by Takemitsu to you my friend as well.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-10-18 05:23 [#02246416]
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I was sampling water in cups and using it for percussion eight years ago. Doesn't mean that amon tobin was biting my idea or anything.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2008-10-18 05:28 [#02246417]
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So how old is Tractern anyway? 12
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-10-18 05:29 [#02246418]
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I think everyone has copied this chap.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-18 12:01 [#02246466]
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haha- that is music inspired by water, not using it as an instrument. =)
Great composer though.
Yeah, I thought people would prolly say water has been used in this way for ages- jst wanted to see what would be said about it.
And what is it about things I have said that makes you think I am 12? =D
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-18 12:04 [#02246467]
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Oh, yeah- I forgot about Cornelius.
Not really used in the same way, but you are right. And I am stupid for forgetting about that.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-11-10 06:23 [#02251348]
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thanks for the nice links
and heres amon tobin's foley room recorded live for free
LAZY_HERE
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-10 07:43 [#02251381]
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Nice find, cheers Mo!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-11-10 12:14 [#02251467]
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very awesome, had no idea that existed!
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-11-10 12:22 [#02251472]
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so Tractern is Fluorescent Grey's new dupe ? Phobs give me back my $10
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-11-10 12:54 [#02251479]
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I'm sure he wasn't the first but doesn't Alex (The Orb) Paterson say on the mini interview / sleeve notes of "Artificial Intelligence" in response to "Where next?" something like more beats made with water samples... I have neither my vinyl or CD copy on this hemisphere.
Doesn't Fluorescent Meh owe everything to Ae, anyway?
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-11-10 13:07 [#02251485]
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aphex twin has been copying me lately, but i was not bringing out albums on warp way before he even thought of it.
SLAG!
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-11-10 14:17 [#02251499]
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good find good sir.
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jules
from United States on 2008-11-10 16:02 [#02251524]
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thanks!!!!!
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jules
from United States on 2008-11-10 16:34 [#02251530]
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there is some nasty ass shite in his freebies section.
yes
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-11-10 16:44 [#02251532]
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Someone invented making music with instruments, and everyone copied him.
It's a postmodern world. It's not about the quality of the idea any longer, it's about the quality of how it's executed.
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big
from lsg on 2008-11-10 16:51 [#02251533]
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you're dumb for screwing people over trying to get them to listen to your music fluororescent grey.you're calling someone else a thief as well as holding us for stupid. this is your other tricks with the fake the tuss page and the autechre fakes. it's done without style or humour
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big
from lsg on 2008-11-10 16:53 [#02251534]
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just like your other tricks
i don't want to be too mean and maybe constructive
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thatne
from United States on 2008-11-10 17:20 [#02251539]
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lol fluorescent meh
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-10 18:41 [#02251550]
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Fluorescent Grey is not me.
How short-sighted and full of hatred are you, seriously?
I even said in the first post, I am not accusing anyone of anything, and yet you still find cause to fault me and turn everything toward saying you hate something? is this something you feel the urge to do at least once a day? Hate something? Pathetic.
You're not making a very good effort to not be "too mean". You're infantile.
If you think it's a shit thread, fair enough, just say so and move on.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-10 18:44 [#02251551]
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QRDL, by refusing to listen to new tracks you're only showing yourself to be narrow minded.
Just because your music isn't good enough to get you anywhere, doesn't make you should act like a grumpy old man and disdain everything by people more successful by yourself.
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-10 18:48 [#02251553]
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lastly, would have been wrong with promoting FG if it had been my work?
Is this not a fucking DIY electronic music forum?
Hypocrites.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-11-11 00:34 [#02251566]
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This is very cool. I actually always wanted to do this.. not so deep and plunging but more like rain and or hoses hitting metal sheets and stuff.
Man I want to go swimming !
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QRDL
from Poland on 2008-11-11 07:20 [#02251608]
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I even said in the first post, I am not accusing anyone of
anything, and yet you still find cause to fault me and turn
everything toward saying you hate something? is this something you feel the urge to do at least once a day? Hate
something? Pathetic. Yet you call the thread "Tobin the Thief"
I'm not making music myself, dear Grey. I do have some ideas once in a while and quite often regret that I don't have the patience to teach myself any music making software.
I refuse to listen to your tracks, because of your pathetic attempts to be recognised and believe me, I have enough other music I haven't listened to yet to fill me months and months of lazy afternoons.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-11-11 08:58 [#02251619]
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i'd rather be infantile than a copycat
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big
from lsg on 2008-11-11 09:27 [#02251628]
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calm down, i had ample of reason to think you are him, see my example. my post wasn't that hateful, yours is.
i apologize for the misunderstandings
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Tractern
from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-11 16:11 [#02251699]
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I am sorry for being a dickface, everyone. I say this sincerely. I felt like a cock after what i said- I think I was just having a bad day.
But believe me, I am not 'Grey'. If I was, don't you think I would be proud of my stuff and would have posted it up here, stating that I made it?
Also, dunno if anyone noticed, but I never post on any of the musical equipment knowledge threads, like 'what is the best Boss for...'. That's because, due to not being able to make music, I have no knowledge on such matters. I admire everyone on here for that.
Sorry for pissing people off (again) and I wish everyone a pleasant tomorrow.
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big
from lsg on 2008-11-11 16:14 [#02251700]
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np, u2 ^^
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-11-11 17:06 [#02251705]
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Good, solid thread with a satisfying conclusion. 7/10
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