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Anyone seen it yet? Quite a good view in my opinion. I would highly recommend it to anyone that has 2 hours of free time. |
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Someone on Coast 2 Coast mentioned these films tonight and then I remembered seeing this thread a little while before. I have not seen any of them as you can tell, but I am interested in watching the one about the Federal Reserve at least. Do you recommend watching the first one before the second one? Or does it really not matter. |
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yes i've been overwhelmingly disturbed all weekend by it. not sure how possible that utopian society they are talking about is. there will always be people that will find a way to take power and control others. i mean what do you do about them. if you take control of them, you just become them, and then you're the bad guy. its very tragic that i don't see it happening, because i would love to live in a place like that. |
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is this different to zeitgeist? it had a significant effect on my life |
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if i only have one hour of free time, what do you recommend i do with it? |
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Use that hour to think about your current life and make it more efficient to create more free time in the future. Thanks llc, didn't know this one was available already. |
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nice, im gonna watch it asap. also id like to recommend you "loose change" watched that yesterday. deals with 9/11. |
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Indeed both films are good. If you don't mind some really out there conspiracy theories, you should check out "behold a pale horse". Kind of nonsense, but still interesting if you are into theories like what is portrayed in these movies |
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9 11 Mysteries is great too, dealing with the anomalies of 9/11. |
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still waiting for high quality torrent |
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torrents are up. are you waiting for highdef? haven't seen the entire documentary yet, but the beginning seems to travel mostly familiar grounds. i'm a bit disappointed to be honest |
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Those existing torrents are just googlevideo rips... I'm waiting for them to release a proper xvid torrent on their website. |
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This movie is bad don't watch it. Fnord. |
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people should watch this. at least for consideration. |
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in fact i'd be as bold as to say that if you don't watch this then i believe you are seriously missing out on some insight. something you can actually believe in. something to strive for. |
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k, seen it. i think its a nice summary of what goes wrong in this world. a lot of it was no big news, but i think everybody on this planet should at least watch this and think for himself if they want to contribute to corprocay and the monetary system in general. the smallest and easiest way to start is to change your energy supplier. did that a while ago... |
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*corprocacy :) |
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i'll give it a go. |
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what do you do after watching these videos? I don't want to contribute to this sick piece of shit agenda anymore. I know there's not much i can do, but there has to be something, anybody can protest, but what makes a real stance? certainly posting useless things on Messageboard forums. |
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certainly *not posting |
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certainly not anger |
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i find myself in the same dilemma at the end there are suggestions but nothing seems like it would actually make a difference. will be up on the 10th. i hope to look there for ideas. as they say, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. |
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what to do after watching these videos? spread em, discuss, call to boycot wherever possible. letting everybody know comes first. maybe something can develop out of that. i wonder why none of the patriots with guns went crazy yet. they should be angry, realizing they ve been fooled the most, fighting for lies... |
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i want to be part of the zeitgeist as much as the next bloke |
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just realized how much shit we're in. Ignorance seems to be pretty bliss for some. |
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i don't even know if there can be any peace at all at this point, |
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i saw the first one and parts of the addendum, the first one is totally outrageous and just wild conspiracy theory innit |
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I just watched the 5 parts on The Federal Reserve, and I would like to know what you feel is conspiracy specfically with the central banking system. I will agree that somethings said are rooted with their injecture, but a lot of the people mentioned, the quotes used, and the companies mentioned are factual. |
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just don't get chipped and watch your ass for the rest of your days on this earth |
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is love real? |
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this is all fucked up. kill me now |
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Thanks for making me aware of this. I saw the first one some time ago and it's scary how fast I forgot about it and fell back into old routines. I found this one to be better than the first, it actually went into some solutions instead of going on and on about the problems. I've always been the type to basically just realize the issues, understand them, hate them, and simply expect others to solve it, even if solving it meant joining a movement. I know that's bad, but admit it, a lot of us are like this. All I can really say is that it would make me happy that if within my lifespan, I could see a class 1 civilization form. I would be overjoyed to see positive change on a scale that big. I remember with the first Zeitgeist, I showed everyone I knew. But nothing much came of it, but how could I truly know that? For all I know, it spread to many people, some of which might actually have done something about it to the best of their abilities. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and I try not to be. However after seeing this, it's had to not subscribe to this train of thought. I see nothing fictitious about it and that's my logic, plain and simple. So what am I going to do? I'm just going to show everyone I know this, I'll check out the zeitgeist movement site when it launches in a couple days. Although what I'm going to try hardest is to not forget it like I did the first. |
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'I've always been the type to basically just realize the issues, understand them, hate them, and simply expect others to solve it, even if solving it meant joining a movement. I know that's bad, but admit it, a lot of us are like this.' i was the exact same. but after seeing this one i can't seem to get it off my mind! |
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all that shit stuck in my mind from the moment i saw it and i really can't get rid of it is the problem. it's almost obsessive. it really bothers me because i tend to take the entire concept in at once and it's too much. it's overwhelming and difficult to handle. anyway i'll fucking deal. so i inadvertently brought out the awareness and high concern in a very good friend of mine. i didn't even direct the video at him. i'd posted it on someone else's myspace and he ended up watching the whole thing (original zeitgeist). now we cover each other in awareness of current events. very cool and positive experience. |
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it's worth watching, but be careful about what you take in as truth, because people are good at manipulating, i don't always trust the sources where they get their info from |
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yea, the first one had some credibility problems with some of the sources (Jordan Maxwell etc.), but it was remarkably well edited, if that's a virtue dearer than truth, for a low-budget maverick. I'm also glad that all this stuff I thought was pretty underground is becoming more mainstream all of a sudden. But as soon as it becomes a movement, you better do your research and think it out for yourself before jumping on any bandwagon... FOR EXAMPLE, I wouldn't take what they said (in the first Zeitgeist) about the monetary system as gospel truth. All this anti-Federal Reserve stuff is interesting, but it's usually based on paranoid isolationist fantasies and a belief in the gold standard, or some fixed idea like that. Sooooo, I just think there are many problems with this generation-defining hype. But I'm still waiting for an official torrent release, so I can't comment on whether the sequel's better or worse. |
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you could go and build earthships. they're off-the-grid, the house harvests rainwater, filters, purifiers and recycles it through plants, etc, effectively growing food for 4 or more people, wind+solar to produce electricity, thermal mass for heat.. so its off the grid, no water+electricity+utility bills and you've got your own foodsource. this is one of those things that the truth-out-people never care about. its like it somehow just doesnt matter to them, more important to draw devilhorns on this or that person. . grab garbage warrior the DVD from either a webstore or a torrent. checkit. then look into buckminster fuller. |
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I have a feeling this whole country and all of its split ends are coming crashing down, the only good thing is that we will hopefully do it to ourselves, and leave everyone else at bay. Earth-homes are a good idea, for people who still want to ignore the problems that are affecting more than just us. |
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'the infrastructure will collapse' |
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the housing infrastructure + utility-grids are one of those things that keep us perpetually paying for electricity etc.. i dont know what kinda "ignoring the problems" it is to want to disconnect from the grid and be self-sufficient. |
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well what about the people all over the world who are going without the oppurtunities to even know about something like this? Are they not of the same class as you? Are their lives meant for something DIFFERENT? Please don't bring up the law of attraction, or all respect will be lost. |
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this is a nicer version of "The Venus Project" tell me, how rich does one have to be to even get something like this started. |
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did you not look at the website? they've been all over the world building emergency shelters for hurricane victims, etc. they're always ready to go places and build these shelters/houses. oliver hodge did that garbagewarrior documentary documenting their clashing against law and planning commissions and the like. seriously, look into it - instead of just kneejerking (1) isolationism (2) yeah some bloody hippies, fuck em, what have they ever done for anyone else.. |
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keep on thinking how miserable life some people do won't help either. with don't you just starting to be a better person.. locally. tryin to do that, and sorrounding the people you see everyday with a better you is far more difficult than screaming ina site about how unfair the world is. imho |
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*why |
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yeah its a "version" of the venus project thats actually happening - but i dont see zeitgeist people talking about them. earthship biotecture have been trying to get land & permission to build a demonstration earthship in new orleans for 1,5 years - to no avail. |
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this whole system of "protesting" "boycotting" stuff is so boring. try supporting something for once, try being FOR something instead of AGAINST something .see where that gets ya. its ridiculous that it took till 2008 for people to come up with that carrot-mobbing idea. but at least someone's starting to think it might be worth being FOR something now. ... |
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you're right |
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true |
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wise words |
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