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offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-10-04 23:14 [#02242462]
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Why the FUCK are his tracks so LOUD!


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-10-04 23:30 [#02242463]
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mr compress0+r m4n


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-10-05 05:23 [#02242490]
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he wants to produce metallica


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-10-05 05:25 [#02242491]
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if he got any louder, he'd limit silence to 0db.


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-05 07:09 [#02242506]
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i wish he'd get over it. it sounds terrible. compare the
production of quaristice to that last thing he released.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-10-05 07:57 [#02242512]
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but would his tracks be so much better if it weren't for the
volume-overkill? i'd love to say it wouldn't but i digress
.... listening to his work i must admit it would. damn


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-10-05 08:05 [#02242516]
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they would. unsurprisingly, my fav album of his is the first
one, which is actually mastered properly. the whole loudness
war thing has been discussed to death, but surely he must
realise that his fanbase isn't 12 year old girls who listen
to the music on little portable cd players. we know the
diffference between something which is well produced and
something which has just been compressed to fuck. maybe his
later albums do have nice melodic structures or interesting
harmonics, but we'll never know because it all just sounds
like static.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-10-05 08:09 [#02242517]
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agreed. but i'm sure he knows what he's doing. i'm afraid he
just likes that overly fuck-up compressed sound. in which
case:

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE HIM A BITCH-SLAP


 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-10-05 09:15 [#02242522]
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it's because the volume dials on the equiptment he uses, the
numbers all go to eleven. right across the board, eleven,
eleven, eleven...

which is one louder than everyone else.


 

offline mrgypsum on 2008-10-05 10:03 [#02242528]
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it was fine up until body riddle stuff and later.


 

offline catfood03 on 2008-10-05 10:40 [#02242537]
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I love Turning Dragon, but I agree, the compression does a
big disservice to the music. I like aggressive beats and
sounds, but with Clark it's more like sandpaper on the
ears.

If his next CD will be ambient, I bet it'd still be mixed
poorly.


 

offline Vin3islih from United Kingdom on 2008-10-06 13:49 [#02242867]
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I actually think the compression suits the latest album,
because that's the sort of album it is.... There isn't a
great deal of intricate programming going on. It's more of
a techno thing, albeit not exactly minimal in approach. In
fact I'd go as far as to say it's better than Quaristice and
probably the best electronic release of the year.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-10-06 14:05 [#02242871]
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quoting the quote of a quote

"The first picture shows 'Frau Wav from Body Riddle, from a
Vinyl source'.
The second shows 'Frau Wav from the CD source after an idiot
mastering engineer has hit it with a Waves L2/3 limiter.'
The third 'And, finally, this is a track from the new CD...
Notice any difference from the original (non limited) vinyl
body riddle example?'"


Attached picture

 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2008-10-06 15:16 [#02242913]
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that's... disturbing

get it?

hurhur


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2008-10-06 15:21 [#02242917]
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damnit i ruined the joke, i meant "distortion" not
"disturbing", and that makes even less sense!
GAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

NEED

LOUD

OVERCOMPRESSED

EVIL

MUSIC!!


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-10-06 15:21 [#02242918]
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hahahaha


 

offline joomla from Isle of Wight (United Kingdom) on 2008-10-06 19:14 [#02243067]
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next track I make I'll have it super loud and pretend it'll
be bought up lots.

totally agree with you guys, that's just fucking stupid.

metallicas latest album fucked it up too and then sold the
good un-fucked one to fucking guitar hero?.. a 12 year old
boys game?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-10-06 20:02 [#02243082]
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haha :)


 

offline ph from United States on 2008-10-11 00:11 [#02244378]
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If that waveform screenshot is true then that kills me.
But I'm torn in that the compression is very a much part of
his "sound" as quoted (from what I can remember, but don't
quote me on it) several interviews; so it would follow that
he prefers the cd version(?).
I really appreciate his intense sound,
but would love to hear some vinyl rips as I do own all or at
least most of the cd's and mp3 exclusives.
Actually the mp3 exclusives sound like the cd's when the
mp3s actually appear to have came directly from him.
Either way,
I will say that over-compression/limiting kills so many
quality productions.
Very much a conundrum in my opinion.


 

offline catfood03 on 2008-10-11 10:33 [#02244489]
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"best electronic release of the year"
i agree with you. usually a year that has an Autechre
release will automatically be my year's fave. but Clark did
some really nice stuff on Dragon.

i disagree that the compression suits the album, though. a
dynamic range of sound qualities in each track would have
been more enjoyable.


 

offline ph from United States on 2008-10-11 15:59 [#02244616]
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a dynamic range would have been more enjoyable according to
how you prefer your sound but perhaps not to the actual
creator of the music.

then again if his vinyl really is dynamic like that...
what the hell!


 


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