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On Bleep. Your thoughts? *SPOILERS AHEAD* . . . . . . I have to say, I don't know whether I like this album on the whole or not. It seems like the sort of album that will grow on me... It needs growing, too, it's that shade of unexpected. (That sounds more mysterious than it should.) This album is a bit of a puzzle, because it starts off logically with a track reminiscent of Hello Everything, a track I had heard earlier in a live set he played this year, and a track I like. Star Time 2. Now... what follows is much harder to swallow. 44 minutes seems too short for me... It almost sounds like a long EP for me, especially with the inclusion of lots of short tracks (many of which could be considered filler material). If he had only included a few long tracks, this would be an EP, OK? OK. Still, I think there's lots of interesting material here, INCLUDING the shorter jam-type tracks. I just don't know how to approach much of it. There's a heavy use of distortion, and the material used is acoustic guitars and drums. The overall results is a mix between Clash, Meshuggah, King Crimson and Luke Vibert. Actually, I felt bad for not buying the previous two albums, so I wanted to support mr. Jenkins in his madness this time around. Maybe I picked the wrong time, I don't know. This is simply not the Squarepusher I've grown to love. But that's what I said about "Music Is Rotted One Note", and even "Ultravisitor" - both albums I've grown to love over the years! For now, I will give it three stars out of five, because I want to reserve judgment after listening to it again. My final score could well end up being either two OR four out of five, I just can't say just yet. Is the album a grower or not? We will see. But I think it's both too short and just way too weird to sink in right now. The manifesto (or liner notes) didn't help. Somebody who has "got it" already, explain your methods and reasoning! There has to be an EN-TRANCE into this cave. |
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let me be the first to say in this thread that it just plainly sucks. and you all bloody know it. |
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i love about all of it.. theres no 'method' however, i just like the associations it gives me |
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first track is good, but its no amenyall |
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Enjoying it so far. Stuff like A Real Woman is pretty strange coming from Squarepusher but it somehow fits. Need to listen more.... |
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I just like the first track you know |
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it's not that good you know |
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i'm loving it. after listening to the samples i thought it was gonna be kinda weak, but i actually really dig it as a whole. the written piece about it being a daydream/trip of an other wordly rock band was a bit ridiculous, but i actually do appreciate the album more because of it. anyone else notice the unique artwork for every track in itunes? |
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Melbourne isn't that shit! Don't project your pretend crap on Squarepusher. iTunes! |
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heh. i use foobar and ALMOST didn't realise. i then had to use itunes to put the album on my *ahem*ipod. |
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where's the written piece you read |
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yep |
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love the first and second track, but wondering why some of the more punk tracks have such 'garage' sounding production. Compare the mixing/recording/engineering on this LP to music for the rotted one note and youll notice a distinct drop in quality and meat. not that it makes the songs bad, they just i think could be improved by a guest mixing engineer or something. |
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This album started as a daydream about watching a crazy, beautiful rock band play an ultra-gig. At first, a giant fluorescent image of a coat hanger appeared at the back of the stage. A couple of seconds later a full size replica of the Camden Falcon backroom materialised around the glowing coat hanger. Upon the stage was a group composed of five musicians. They seemed to be of differing ages, some young, some old. I noticed that the drummer was an Eskimo. They played instruments either of their own design or conventional ones that were modified such that they could be used to generate a range of sounds not typically associated with a rock band. For instance, one of the musicians appeared to be using a device attached to the body of his classical guitar that allowed him to accelerate or decelerate time in his immediate vicinity. At a certain point he seemed to quickly reverse back to a couple of months ago. My suspicions were corroborated by his hair and beard temporarily looking rather shorter. Sonically, this had the effect of extruding certain melodic phrases into shimmering monoliths and slow emotion wave fronts. Other sounds being generated near to him on stage also got partially sucked into the time sponge and were returned at high speed as imploded sonic pin cushions. The coat hanger started glowing emerald green. At the same time, a river emerged on the stage and appeared to be running under the drum kit. I was concerned for the safety of the musicians being as it was that they were powering their other-worldly equipment with electricity. Just as I began to venture a comment, the members of the band that weren’t kayaking were enveloped in a localised electrical storm. As the electricity arced around various nodal points such as the drummer’s left hand, the guitarist’s teeth and a Venus fly trap that was sitting just behind the bass amp, I noticed to my relief that they weren’t being incinerated by this high voltage extravaganza. |
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No, but it did seem to have the effect of generating a bass -distortion that sounded as if the bass guitar was actually a RSJ being played with a chainsaw, enclosed in a ventilated cabinet of fine mahogany. In fact, the high voltage was smash-mapping the bass line to a lightning wave and then amplifying it millions of times over. The bassist was now using the entire building as a speaker. My vision at this stage was hence somewhat blurred, but I am sure I saw all of the drums in the drummer’s kit rapidly exchanging places with one another. The snare drum would occasionally rocket to the ceiling and hover there for minutes at a time, oscillating at rates factorially related to the tempo. Thus it started to act as a receiver for electromagnetic radiation emitted by nearby neutron stars. The strange lonely songs of astral bodies echoed about the room as their electromagnetic radiation was demodulated by the UHF calf skin. Then it exploded, showering the band in pieces of plywood. It was at this stage that my attention was switched to the electric guitar player. Splinters of detonated snare drum were striking the strings of his guitar such that his right hand was free to operate a cupboard full of granite spheres illuminated in a dull orange. As he did, his person rapidly fragmented into various historical stages of mankind. For example, there was a Cro-Magnon man and a Homo Erectus playing Monopoly. The Cro-Magnon appeared to be winning. Suddenly the Cro-Magnon was in a headlock. Suddenly everyone in the room was incredibly happy. Riffs of medieval joy bloomed about the small man as he struggled to fight back tears of elation. They were happy because they were real. They were smoking because they were real. The coat hanger winked out, they thanked me and left forthwith leaving no trace save a small dent where a pantechnicon lorry had smashed through the back wall of the stage to deliver a replacement snare drum. |
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What to do after an experience of that order? As the room around me regained its familiar shape, I was left with an urgent sense of responsibility that I do honour to this vision of a remarkable ensemble. My memory of it was the only souvenir, and I feared its vulnerability with only a skull to protect it. I ventured forth to the studio shortly after the New Year. I emerged on July 15th. This is the result. I hope you enjoy it. |
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that text just adds another reason to delete the album with a vengeance. |
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haha, i really like the album. maybe not as mindblowing/amazing, but i'm putting there next to ultravisitor. his description of imagining this rock band playing unimaginable but live rock music to a live audience sounds an aweful lot like what would have been going through his mind with ultravisitor (though ultravisitor is no doubt darker and more experimental..) |
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long version: funny guy with funny beard and a very good musician with great sense of humour made another good album. he had fun making it, you can hear that. to me his music means having fun with the instruments and doing what nobody expects. i could already judge this will be a good release from the very delta v track - it showed he's not stopping, he's constantly trying to reinvent himself. he just still does what HE likes/wants without becoming some.....idm laptop retired bore ? and fucks everything else. i like that attitude. short version: this is good |
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wow! he's is actually having a real tour and he is finally coming to Amsterdam! My day is already perfect. |
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Can't wait for more live shows... thats where he's at his best for sure (Got my manchester ticket already..... considering paris too!) thre trashy stuff works great live.... exiton, steinbolt...and now delta v, planet gear etc. Its all good shit! The unreleased stuff from bangface is another facet.... here's hope he does a "venus no 17". on that stuff. the poppier tunes worked welll at bangface i thought. I mean it's the done thigg to build you up into the mayhem slowly, neh.. always the way with pusher |
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it's up on what now. |
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i love squarepusher but this is one of the worst albums i have ever listened to |
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looks like he hired w M w to do that written piece for him. |
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i'm liking it, all of it, except the kind of weird bass distortion and those drums on some tracks. where it goes metal/progrock, he should've used a big drumkit and heavier sticks/hit the drums stronger/add compression. wtf, blast kinda stuff with a 10" snare drum /jazzy set? there is much potential in these tracks, and he must've done this sound on purpose? like someone said, miron has better production in parts. let's see how it sounds in a couple of months. |
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i don't mind the thin/small sounding drums. it is a little weird having bass with a layer of distortion just sitting right ontop of it. i'll also agree about how it sound in a couple of months. wouldn't be entirely surprised if people who initially hate/love it end up having a complete opposite opinion, and i'm a little worried because i'm really digging it on it's first day :) |
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i really hate musical discussion i reckon.. sometimes a comment can even ruin the experience one had prior to reading it.. music isnt about perfection or flaws, or at least not finding them.. try to just chill and listen without the critical ear, imo |
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(ot) to the lovers of this kind of sound, check out the tune called 'noise department' , it's two years old but i think you might like it |
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totally agreed, music is subjective imo. You can give you opinion but discussions are a stupid waste of time. That was one of the reasons i quited posting on mb's for a while. Now i just come here to see whats going on in music. For some info, ideas etc. For messages from people who heard good music and want to tell the world. Then you can decide for yourself whether you like it or not. If it was ment for discussions it would have been called 'discussion boards' right? |
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squarepusher works best live.... I'm listening to all this album anticipating the live sets that are coming. Liquid, Roppongi, osaka, frigid, bangface. Thats where pusher shines. |
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it's not... very.... good |
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Brilliant Album! Tom Jenkinson is a genius!! Im absolutely loving it |
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Well i think he's Lost his marbles a little bit! |
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- i´m not going to buy this - i dont think its all rubbish - i wish he´d put out some acid/electronica |
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I think it's brilliant. |
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Yeah this is really good. Shameless progressive art-rock. For chrissake it's a concept album. He has the musicianship and sense of humor to pull it off. I'm impressed. His best work since Go Plastic. |
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The Glass Road! Gorgeous track. |
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yes BANGFACE HARD CREW!!! |
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a friend said: Whoever gave Squarepusher a guitar for Christmas did us all an immense disservice. I think i'll feel just the same once I listen to it :/ |
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Whoever gave Squarepusher a guitar for Christmas did us all an immense disservice. that makes the man even more irreverent |
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irreverent to what? |
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listening to the lyrics of "A real woman" is like reading cygnus's thoughts on the meaning of the word "life" |
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to the way people think about a music should be. you might like it or not but he sounds like freedom anyway |
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just finished listening to it. 14 tracks, with a maximum possible 5 stars per track, i've awarded the entire album 6 out of 70 stars |
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I don't need a reminder! I knocking on 70. As I said irreverent to what? |
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I really want to like his stuff, but each album sounds a bit more crap to me, love the artwork, its gonna be my desktop. But the tracks are nasty, like black olives. mohamed, I do appriate that link. lol @ Jivver "knocking on 70" |
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crap, said from you? noooooo you don't know squarepusher. |
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makes sense for the live gigs; nothing wrong with wanting to go in that direction. but so far, this innit zooting my mood swing into fall/winter. |
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