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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-30 20:10 [#02233233]
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I have been playing around with this over the last day and was wondering could anybody tell me is there any way to quantise midi recording as it is recording or does it have to be done after the fact.
Also is there some kind of step recording like in Cubase?
I'm thinking about buying the full version but it is a lot of money in these times of credit crunches and I want to be sure it is the right thing to get like the reviews say.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:12 [#02233236]
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just download it illegally
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:14 [#02233239]
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you can set the record quantization to do it before.
also, if you create a midi clip and view it will be in step/grid edit.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-30 20:15 [#02233240]
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I'm tired of virus' and buggy cracks.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-30 20:20 [#02233241]
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I can't find the record quantization option?
I have created a midi clip and whilst I have the piano roll grid there doesn't appear to be a step record option?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:21 [#02233242]
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what do you mean step record?
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-30 20:24 [#02233243]
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Basically you set the note length/grid size and then each note you tap on your pads/keyboard is entered and the marker automatically moves forward one. As I say Cubase has it.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:28 [#02233244]
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it's not going to be classic step record where you tell it the step length, hit the note and it goes to the next step. It's grid edit, where you pencil in the notes/hits.
it might have it but i never saw it.
I'm not at home, but quantize is somewhere in the menus at the top. I have 5.2 though so yours might be different.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2008-08-30 20:31 [#02233245]
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I think you're liooking for record quantization in Live, yes i belive it has it. As you tap notes live, it will place them to the closest grid point available, but I don't know if you can set it so that your note will be automaticaly after each's note next step. I dont know what you mean with the Step-recording thing though, unless theres a video on it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-30 20:33 [#02233247]
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Nice one mate...just found the record quantize in the Edit menu.
Shame about the step record though, it's something that I actually used.
Overall though it seems a pretty nice package...just not sure if I prefer it to Cubase yet.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:37 [#02233249]
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As you tap notes live, it will place them to the closest grid point available
I think that is what he is looking for. A classic step sequencer you set the note length, (1/16, 1/8, etc.) and tap the key or pad and it places each hit at that note.
If you say it has that, cool. I've only ever used real time and grid edit in Live. However, my Q and ASR-X both use the tap style step sequencing.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-08-30 20:39 [#02233251]
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wait nm. i think thats just real time with record quantize :P
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-08-30 22:06 [#02233264]
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Install the official demo, the one you can activate with a legit serial if you buy. This will let you discover what's buggy because it's cracked and what's Ableton bugs. Use it for a couple of weeks doing one or two bar proof of concept loops to see if it suits you and has the features you want.
It doesn't suit the way I work. I only ever finished two things in it. If you don't have the kind of workflow Ableton expects you to have, you'll find yourself not using most of the program and fighting the parts you do use.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-31 18:40 [#02233516]
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That's what I've done and, at the moment, I don't think it is exactly what I am after. It's fun but not really productive.
Anyone with opinions on the latest versions of Logic and DP? I'll buy a Mac if I have to.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-31 18:45 [#02233517]
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Or even Pro Tools?
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 18:58 [#02233520]
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i never tried something better than cubase, especially for fx rendering on the fly and editing of audio files. i had the last k'ed version for mac (1.6 sx) on my old g3 and after upgrading to a macbook i still can't replicate the flow that i had using it. i've tried dp, now using logic, and i'm still planning to make a major mod on the g3 and back to have serious fun.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 19:04 [#02233522]
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or, if you have the money, buy a mac and cubase 4.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-31 19:06 [#02233523]
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There was something about Cubase I didn't like. It felt like I was fighting it a lot of the time but if I can't find anything better I guess I will just upgrade to 4 and see how I get on.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 19:11 [#02233526]
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if i got your point, you would have to fight more with other programs
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-31 19:12 [#02233528]
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I beginning to think that...oh well.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2008-08-31 19:45 [#02233532]
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I find it best to use loads of programs/machines to make music. None of them do everything you want and you are forced into making music how those particular programmers think/are capable of doing. Using different things sometimes make it feel like a "band" are playing, Different strengths and weaknesses rather than one homogenized thing.
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-08-31 20:40 [#02233537]
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I know where you are coming from, the only problem I have is that every cracked sequencer I have used in the past is buggy as hell. I spent hours on stuff and lost it in a tenth of a second due to a crash. I just thought if I spent a little cash on a sequencer it would at least offer me a stable base.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 22:18 [#02233543]
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this is free (untested)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-08-31 22:33 [#02233544]
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woops sorry, not for peecee
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-09-01 04:11 [#02233566]
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We should discuss this over a Red bull.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 09:12 [#02233627]
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Try Reaper. It apparently has a step-sequencer entry mode though I haven't tried that aspect of it.
The demo never expires, is fully functional (including save and export) and only nags you once a day, the first time you run it that day. Noncommercial license is 50 USD.
It does most of what Cubase does (the stuff I consider important anyhow), in a 3 meg(!) installer that snaps open almost as fast as notepad. Plus it has a built in scripting language to write your own midi and audio effects / processors.
I just finished my first medium size project in it. No problems, no gotchas. Worked well with my plugins and sound interface. I learned just enough to get the job done but haven't really scratched the surface of what it can do. Highly recommended.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 09:15 [#02233628]
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I mean, the program snaps open almost as fast as notepad, not the installer. To the coffeemobile!
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-09-01 09:36 [#02233635]
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hey fleet, can it do offline plug in processing onto audio files (you select a portion of an audio file and preview/apply an fx without send/insert)?
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evils
on 2008-09-01 09:41 [#02233639]
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I would suggest it's crakt plugins that are making your crakt copy of Cubase or Ableton crash, not the actual programme itself. Just make sure all the plugins are stable and the sequencers should work fine.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-09-01 10:14 [#02233649]
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aaah you use external audio editors in conjunction with it.. cool
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-09-01 10:54 [#02233673]
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I'll definitely give this a look. Cheers!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-09-01 11:41 [#02233682]
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Yeah, use Wavosaur for that.
Also, Reaper has track freezing, which you can use for the same thing. Saves CPU on big projects with hungry plugins.
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