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offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-19 05:22 [#02222922]
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should be interesting if everything goes to plan...


 

offline noseburger on 2008-07-19 05:43 [#02222924]
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the fountain was a fugged up mess wasnt it? i wanted to
enjoy it, but gave up on the grounds that it was stupid.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-19 06:17 [#02222927]
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i enjoyed the fountain but not to the point of rapture

robocop, on the other hand, is an insane move but hopefully
something amazing will come out of it


 

offline PS on 2008-07-19 07:09 [#02222941]
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I don't know much about Aronofsky, but I do have my fair
share of Robocop experiences. Want to hear more?


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-19 07:10 [#02222943]
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yes please.


 

offline PS on 2008-07-19 07:19 [#02222946]
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Well, there's this drug called Nuke taking the city by
storm. It looks just like my aunts eye medicine and
truckers inject it into their necks. There's some sort of
foul mouth kid. Then, they take a man and saw of the top of
his head. When they remove his head it makes a popping
sound and then the surgeons say something about eating
supper as a joke. What they don't know is that brain is
going to go into some sort of robot and that robot might
become an enemy, I don't really remember. Robocop 2 was the
first 'rated' movie I ever got into, my friend's mom had to
sign papers. Since it was a summer day, we went to the pool
when the movie was over. When we got there, there were
these little, dead frogs everywhere, floating on the water.
I remember that part.


 

offline NIL-0 from trans pennine express on 2008-07-19 07:26 [#02222951]
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robocop is faultless. clearly one of the best films of all
time.

aronofsky is a fuckin chancer; his films are utter
pretentious, overblown tosh.
.
i fear this will be utter eyeshite


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-19 07:41 [#02222953]
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i think it will be good
i think aronofsky might have some talent but he shouldn't
try to be an 'author'


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-19 08:29 [#02222961]
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leave darren aronofsky alone!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-19 08:34 [#02222963]
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Yeah I dunno if I want a guy as humorless as Aronofsky
remaking a movie as darkly hilarious as Robocop


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2008-07-19 08:36 [#02222964]
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"ill buy that for a dollar!"
:F


 

offline Sano on 2008-07-19 08:38 [#02222965]
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There's no such thing as good remakes, the 80's were golden
it's impossible to top that shit with todays mentally and
view of the world.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-19 08:54 [#02222974]
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i once shook hands with paul verhoeven and had a little chat
with him

i was very drunk and later passed out on the terrace i met
him, i don't know whether he has seen that


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-07-19 08:56 [#02222975]
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Irvin Kershner should remake all the Star Wars films.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2008-07-19 08:57 [#02222977]
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that isnt really meant to be a follow up to you sano, soz.


 

offline jules from United States on 2008-07-19 10:43 [#02222990]
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aronofsky is by far my fav director and i really wish they
didnt pull the batmans from him. nolan has being doing a
great job but darren would have made it so much darker and
truer to the original comic book


 

offline RussellDust on 2008-07-19 11:08 [#02222993]
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I say leave Robocop and Batman alone!
I fucking hate this guy's work. He's an emulator.


 

offline jules from United States on 2008-07-19 12:37 [#02223002]
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emulator of what?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 12:45 [#02223003]
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as much as i LOVE Pi, after seeing Eraserhead the
similarites are striking


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-19 13:12 [#02223023]
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really? I hadn't even thought of the similarities until
now.

I didn't know there was so much Aronofsky hatred out there,
kind of surprising... I don't think he's an unbridled genius
but he's made some good films. Not so sure he's the right
director for Robocop, but that's as of yet unconfirmed
anyhow.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 13:15 [#02223025]
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i don't hate Aronofsky, he's up there as one of my fave
directors

it's just that Pi is blatantly influenced by Eraserhead.
Aronofsky did do his own take on it, but it cannot be left
out of the equation...Eraserhead influenced Pi.

but yeah, i don't think an Aronofsky Robocop is a good idea
:(


 

offline PS on 2008-07-19 13:35 [#02223035]
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What about a Robocop Aronofsky?


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 13:44 [#02223041]
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"Let the girl go, or there will be....hip-hop montage"


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-07-19 13:58 [#02223048]
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aronofsky is a spectacular director, so long as he's kept
just outside arm's reach for the script.

also, lol oscillik!


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2008-07-19 14:18 [#02223055]
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you down with OCP?


 

offline skeksi23 from ∆ on 2008-07-20 10:26 [#02223262]
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oh no, an outrage
will almost certainly be completely terrible
the fountain = total and utter bollocks, one of the worst
films i have ever seen
why anyone would want to remake robocop... i dunno


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-07-20 10:31 [#02223263]
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to mix the dirty old days with the news 3d possibilities?


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-20 11:33 [#02223270]
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it's not a remake it's a sequel

i was wrong too because i didn't read: he's not just
directing, he's taken charge of a storyline

it's just not fair, there's so little talented directors
that get a shot and so many shit ones

good: Sam Raimi
bad: aronofsky, M. Night Shyamalan

see? twice as many bad ones


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-20 11:54 [#02223273]
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I agree about She-male-ant, but who doesn't


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-20 12:20 [#02223280]
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the people that go see his films and the studios he makes
money for


 

offline OK on 2008-07-20 13:42 [#02223292]
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poeple hate afronosky because they think putting pretty
pictures in movies is pretentious.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-20 14:26 [#02223296]
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i think pi, requiem and the fountain are all great movies. i
also think somebody else should direct this robocop movie.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-20 15:23 [#02223302]
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Well, actually, I think that many people (based on IMDB
reviews and hearsay) do go see an M. Night Shyamalan movie
fully expecting it to suck and/or be ridiculously bloated
nonsense. I personally did that with Signs although I've
wised up since.

Maybe HE should direct the new Robocop movie, that would be
AWESOME!!! There would be a twist at the end.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-20 15:37 [#02223309]
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but you haven't given him a chance yet!


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-20 15:41 [#02223310]
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i just dont see how it fits in with his other movies.

just like how the later batman films are in no way
comparable (and also happen to suck) to the burton ones.

imo, a director with sci-fi project experience should do it,
if anyone.

i was pretty let down by sunshine which also showed danny
boyle should probably stick to what he knows best.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-07-20 16:01 [#02223316]
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j198: the fountain was a science fiction movie, but i know
what you mean. however, i think he has a knack for visual
fx.

i liked the fountain. there wasn't anything in it that was
bad per se, and some parts of it were completely
amazing, but there were some pacing issues or something that
held it back. also, the abstract continuity is fine for us
who watch lynch and etc., but i heard comments from others
who said you have to be on acid to understand
this
.

he might surprise everyone and do something with robocop
that no one expects. he should try to get frank miller to
work with him on the script.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-20 17:16 [#02223331]
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It also helps to have some understanding of Kabbalah to make
sense of the Fountain. The main fault of that movie was the
slow-paced doctor-patient love story (? from what I
remember), and a certain disrespect for the audience. Still,
pretty daring work.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2008-07-20 17:26 [#02223333]
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Kabbalah?


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-07-20 17:42 [#02223335]
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If you've seen Pi, you will know that Aronofsky has dealt
with Jewish mysticism before in his movies. I read in an
interview that he traveled to Israel to study Kabbalah, and
he later met up with some Brooklyn rabbis to learn more, and
that's where he got all that numerology stuff and so on for
Pi.

The Fountain is, of course, a kind of a mish mash of
different things and cultures, but underlying it all is the
figure of the tree of life as a symbol of spiritual growth,
lifted straight out of Kabbalistic symbolism. The film
itself is rather New Age and a hodge podge of different
things, but this one connection is clear, considering that
the director himself is Jewish and knowledgeable in that
field.


 

offline lupus yonderboy from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-20 18:19 [#02223341]
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Aronofsky doesn't deal with anything in his movies. he name
checks interesting things as window dressing. empty
posturing films for gibbons.



 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-20 19:04 [#02223344]
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LAZY_TITLE

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offline big from lsg on 2008-07-21 03:20 [#02223367]
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I loathed and despised his inexplicably lauded 2000 hit
Requiem for a Dream. Two hours of blunt-force trauma and
degradation signifying nothing beyond a just-say-no lecture,
Requiem is a sickening after-school special with a lot of
fancy cross-cutting mistakenly heralded as groundbreaking by
an entire generation who'd never heard of Bob Fosse and thus
never saw all these same tricks done 20 years before—with
100 times the compassion and humanity—in All That Jazz.

The Fountain might stand a chance of pulling that same thin
wool over the eyes of folks who never saw Solaris (either
the 1972 Tarkovsky version or Steven Soderbergh's vastly
underrated remake), but I doubt it. The sight of a bald Hugh
Jackman levitating in the lotus position while battling
spear-wielding Mayan soldiers with his mindwaves hardly
packs the same college-crowd art-punk draw as a shot of
Jennifer Connelly taking a black dildo up her asshole while
backed by the Kronos Quartet.


 

offline NIL-0 from trans pennine express on 2008-07-21 05:16 [#02223377]
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i concur


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-07-21 07:31 [#02223386]
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hahahaha

i love the solaris remake, it is a brilliant movie.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:21 [#02223404]
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the solaris remake is one of my favorite films ever. I
wouldn't dare compare anything else to it.

Funny coincidence is that the DVD is right next to The
Fountain on my little dvd shelf.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-21 10:26 [#02223407]
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I don't even consider Soderbergh's Solaris a ''remake''.
It's just a different interpretation of the book's story,
and a damn good one.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-21 10:46 [#02223410]
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those two paragraphs are from the review of the fountain
there, in case anyone missed it


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:48 [#02223411]
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the review?


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:50 [#02223412]
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oh nevermind. dont post a link, then copy and paste from
that site afterwards. it's silly. and if you do you should
post the source before you ctrl-v.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-07-21 10:53 [#02223414]
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no
it was pretty clear i replied to myself to make it that


 


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