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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-19 05:22 [#02222922]
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linkylinklink
should be interesting if everything goes to plan...
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noseburger
on 2008-07-19 05:43 [#02222924]
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the fountain was a fugged up mess wasnt it? i wanted to enjoy it, but gave up on the grounds that it was stupid.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-19 06:17 [#02222927]
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i enjoyed the fountain but not to the point of rapture
robocop, on the other hand, is an insane move but hopefully something amazing will come out of it
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PS
on 2008-07-19 07:09 [#02222941]
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I don't know much about Aronofsky, but I do have my fair share of Robocop experiences. Want to hear more?
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-19 07:10 [#02222943]
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yes please.
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PS
on 2008-07-19 07:19 [#02222946]
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Well, there's this drug called Nuke taking the city by storm. It looks just like my aunts eye medicine and truckers inject it into their necks. There's some sort of foul mouth kid. Then, they take a man and saw of the top of his head. When they remove his head it makes a popping sound and then the surgeons say something about eating supper as a joke. What they don't know is that brain is going to go into some sort of robot and that robot might become an enemy, I don't really remember. Robocop 2 was the first 'rated' movie I ever got into, my friend's mom had to sign papers. Since it was a summer day, we went to the pool when the movie was over. When we got there, there were these little, dead frogs everywhere, floating on the water. I remember that part.
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2008-07-19 07:26 [#02222951]
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robocop is faultless. clearly one of the best films of all time.
aronofsky is a fuckin chancer; his films are utter pretentious, overblown tosh.
. i fear this will be utter eyeshite
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-19 07:41 [#02222953]
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i think it will be good i think aronofsky might have some talent but he shouldn't try to be an 'author'
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-19 08:29 [#02222961]
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leave darren aronofsky alone!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-19 08:34 [#02222963]
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Yeah I dunno if I want a guy as humorless as Aronofsky remaking a movie as darkly hilarious as Robocop
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2008-07-19 08:36 [#02222964]
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"ill buy that for a dollar!" :F
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Sano
on 2008-07-19 08:38 [#02222965]
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There's no such thing as good remakes, the 80's were golden it's impossible to top that shit with todays mentally and view of the world.
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-19 08:54 [#02222974]
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i once shook hands with paul verhoeven and had a little chat with him
i was very drunk and later passed out on the terrace i met him, i don't know whether he has seen that
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-07-19 08:56 [#02222975]
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Irvin Kershner should remake all the Star Wars films.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-07-19 08:57 [#02222977]
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that isnt really meant to be a follow up to you sano, soz.
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jules
from United States on 2008-07-19 10:43 [#02222990]
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aronofsky is by far my fav director and i really wish they didnt pull the batmans from him. nolan has being doing a great job but darren would have made it so much darker and truer to the original comic book
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RussellDust
on 2008-07-19 11:08 [#02222993]
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I say leave Robocop and Batman alone! I fucking hate this guy's work. He's an emulator.
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jules
from United States on 2008-07-19 12:37 [#02223002]
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emulator of what?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 12:45 [#02223003]
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as much as i LOVE Pi, after seeing Eraserhead the similarites are striking
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-19 13:12 [#02223023]
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really? I hadn't even thought of the similarities until now.
I didn't know there was so much Aronofsky hatred out there, kind of surprising... I don't think he's an unbridled genius but he's made some good films. Not so sure he's the right director for Robocop, but that's as of yet unconfirmed anyhow.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 13:15 [#02223025]
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i don't hate Aronofsky, he's up there as one of my fave directors
it's just that Pi is blatantly influenced by Eraserhead. Aronofsky did do his own take on it, but it cannot be left out of the equation...Eraserhead influenced Pi.
but yeah, i don't think an Aronofsky Robocop is a good idea :(
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PS
on 2008-07-19 13:35 [#02223035]
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What about a Robocop Aronofsky?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-07-19 13:44 [#02223041]
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"Let the girl go, or there will be....hip-hop montage"
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-07-19 13:58 [#02223048]
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aronofsky is a spectacular director, so long as he's kept just outside arm's reach for the script.
also, lol oscillik!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-07-19 14:18 [#02223055]
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you down with OCP?
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skeksi23
from ∆ on 2008-07-20 10:26 [#02223262]
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oh no, an outrage will almost certainly be completely terrible the fountain = total and utter bollocks, one of the worst films i have ever seen
why anyone would want to remake robocop... i dunno
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2008-07-20 10:31 [#02223263]
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to mix the dirty old days with the news 3d possibilities?
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-20 11:33 [#02223270]
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it's not a remake it's a sequel
i was wrong too because i didn't read: he's not just directing, he's taken charge of a storyline
it's just not fair, there's so little talented directors that get a shot and so many shit ones
good: Sam Raimi bad: aronofsky, M. Night Shyamalan
see? twice as many bad ones
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-20 11:54 [#02223273]
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I agree about She-male-ant, but who doesn't
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-20 12:20 [#02223280]
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the people that go see his films and the studios he makes money for
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OK
on 2008-07-20 13:42 [#02223292]
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poeple hate afronosky because they think putting pretty pictures in movies is pretentious.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-20 14:26 [#02223296]
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i think pi, requiem and the fountain are all great movies. i also think somebody else should direct this robocop movie.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-20 15:23 [#02223302]
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Well, actually, I think that many people (based on IMDB reviews and hearsay) do go see an M. Night Shyamalan movie fully expecting it to suck and/or be ridiculously bloated nonsense. I personally did that with Signs although I've wised up since.
Maybe HE should direct the new Robocop movie, that would be AWESOME!!! There would be a twist at the end.
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-20 15:37 [#02223309]
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but you haven't given him a chance yet!
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-20 15:41 [#02223310]
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i just dont see how it fits in with his other movies.
just like how the later batman films are in no way comparable (and also happen to suck) to the burton ones.
imo, a director with sci-fi project experience should do it, if anyone.
i was pretty let down by sunshine which also showed danny boyle should probably stick to what he knows best.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-07-20 16:01 [#02223316]
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j198: the fountain was a science fiction movie, but i know what you mean. however, i think he has a knack for visual fx.
i liked the fountain. there wasn't anything in it that was bad per se, and some parts of it were completely amazing, but there were some pacing issues or something that held it back. also, the abstract continuity is fine for us who watch lynch and etc., but i heard comments from others who said you have to be on acid to understand this.
he might surprise everyone and do something with robocop that no one expects. he should try to get frank miller to work with him on the script.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-20 17:16 [#02223331]
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It also helps to have some understanding of Kabbalah to make sense of the Fountain. The main fault of that movie was the slow-paced doctor-patient love story (? from what I remember), and a certain disrespect for the audience. Still, pretty daring work.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2008-07-20 17:26 [#02223333]
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Kabbalah?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-07-20 17:42 [#02223335]
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If you've seen Pi, you will know that Aronofsky has dealt with Jewish mysticism before in his movies. I read in an interview that he traveled to Israel to study Kabbalah, and he later met up with some Brooklyn rabbis to learn more, and that's where he got all that numerology stuff and so on for Pi.
The Fountain is, of course, a kind of a mish mash of different things and cultures, but underlying it all is the figure of the tree of life as a symbol of spiritual growth, lifted straight out of Kabbalistic symbolism. The film itself is rather New Age and a hodge podge of different things, but this one connection is clear, considering that the director himself is Jewish and knowledgeable in that field.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-20 18:19 [#02223341]
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Aronofsky doesn't deal with anything in his movies. he name checks interesting things as window dressing. empty posturing films for gibbons.
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-20 19:04 [#02223344]
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-21 03:20 [#02223367]
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I loathed and despised his inexplicably lauded 2000 hit Requiem for a Dream. Two hours of blunt-force trauma and degradation signifying nothing beyond a just-say-no lecture, Requiem is a sickening after-school special with a lot of fancy cross-cutting mistakenly heralded as groundbreaking by an entire generation who'd never heard of Bob Fosse and thus never saw all these same tricks done 20 years before—with 100 times the compassion and humanity—in All That Jazz.
The Fountain might stand a chance of pulling that same thin wool over the eyes of folks who never saw Solaris (either the 1972 Tarkovsky version or Steven Soderbergh's vastly underrated remake), but I doubt it. The sight of a bald Hugh Jackman levitating in the lotus position while battling spear-wielding Mayan soldiers with his mindwaves hardly packs the same college-crowd art-punk draw as a shot of Jennifer Connelly taking a black dildo up her asshole while backed by the Kronos Quartet.
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2008-07-21 05:16 [#02223377]
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i concur
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cx
from Norway on 2008-07-21 07:31 [#02223386]
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hahahaha
i love the solaris remake, it is a brilliant movie.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:21 [#02223404]
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the solaris remake is one of my favorite films ever. I wouldn't dare compare anything else to it.
Funny coincidence is that the DVD is right next to The Fountain on my little dvd shelf.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-07-21 10:26 [#02223407]
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I don't even consider Soderbergh's Solaris a ''remake''. It's just a different interpretation of the book's story, and a damn good one.
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-21 10:46 [#02223410]
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those two paragraphs are from the review of the fountain there, in case anyone missed it
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:48 [#02223411]
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the review?
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-07-21 10:50 [#02223412]
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oh nevermind. dont post a link, then copy and paste from that site afterwards. it's silly. and if you do you should post the source before you ctrl-v.
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big
from lsg on 2008-07-21 10:53 [#02223414]
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no it was pretty clear i replied to myself to make it that
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