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online big from lsg on 2008-07-18 03:20 [#02222675]
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any opinions?
on wether it's good for you or not for instance


 

offline trentee from Berlin (Germany) on 2008-07-18 06:22 [#02222698]
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I heard it's very good if you want to lose some weight. It's
a combination of 20+ asanas you repeat over and over again.
It is also called "Hot Yoga" (high humidity, 40C degrees
temperature of environment). However I practice astanga and
I lost 22 kilos during last 15 months, so I would say
repetetive combination of asanas works for me. With bikram
yoga I would be more careful, because of potential harm to
your heart (because of temperature/humidity). Are you going
to try BY?


 

offline trentee from Berlin (Germany) on 2008-07-18 06:23 [#02222699]
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also:

BY


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-18 07:49 [#02222714]
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I'm doing it already. Just started, done about 5 sessions
now.
It is absolutely gruesome and that's what I like best about
it: it feels like quite a feat to finish a session as well
as possible. I think it gives you tremendous stamina and
strength (yesterday I went to do Iyengar, also a pretty
physical form of yoga and it almost was a laugh). I believe
Bikram’s claim that it is particularly good for your
back.

On the negative I always feel pretty screwed up the next day
and maybe even the day after that. The heat just does you
in, like you're beat up on the inside. Also I don't believe
it's a total work-out. For instance Iyengar, with it's no
less than 200 asanas (postures) is more all round. And I
don't know what the benefit really is of getting so strong
physically. That's why I want to know: is it good for you?
Maybe I’ll go and just do Iyengar because it also is hard,
but not too hard. For deciding I plan on listening to my own
body.



 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-18 07:59 [#02222721]
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So I've surfed the web just now. Bikram is a hype and the
web is littered with hysterical raving comments. The guy
answering here for instance. Bikram yoga has some
cult like qualities, people believe because they’re torn
so hard from their old routines.

I liked this report of what the first session
feels like.
I can say through the next sessions it gets better quickly.
Also, when your school smells that bad you didn't find the
best one. I love this comment there by the way:
"Personally, Bikram reminds me of the Camus quote "The only
way out is through""

Here’s a pretty nice objective article (the wiki
is terrible, let's not focus on mr. Bikram for now)


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-18 08:00 [#02222723]
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lol comment on toxins here:
"A friend of mine took me to her class. It was wild because
some people were vomiting and others were crying -- the
instructor said that was their way of releasing toxins. I
felt fantastic afterward."

I’m sure you don’t sweat out toxins. The last post
here is the truth:
"The bottom line: Sweat does contain trace amounts of
toxins, says Dr. Dee Anna Glaser, a professor of dermatology
at St. Louis University and founding member of the
International Hyperhidrosis Society, a medical group
dedicated to the study and treatment of heavy sweating.

But, Glaser, adds, in the big picture, sweat has only one
function: Cooling you down when you overheat. "Sweating for
the sake of sweating has no benefits," she says. "Sweating
heavily is not going to release a lot of toxins."

In fact, Glaser says, heavy sweating can impair your body's
natural detoxification system. As she explains, the liver
and kidneys -- not the sweat glands -- are the organs we
count on to filter toxins from our blood. If you don't drink
enough water to compensate for a good sweat, dehydration
could stress the kidneys and keep them from doing their job.
"If you're not careful, heavy sweating can be a bad thing,"
she says.

-Los Angeles Times January 28, 2008"



 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2008-07-18 08:10 [#02222725]
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Ramses Smuckles practices it.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2008-07-19 02:52 [#02222907]
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Shop around and look for an instructor you connect with,
regardless of style or heritage.

All styles have their pro's and con's.

And enjoy :)


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-19 03:44 [#02222909]
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Well it's a bit different with Bikram, it's a franchise and
everyone teaches it nearly the same. It's just some pointers
you get in class, not real personalized attention. I think
the teachers are a bit scary really.

Horse: that's great news! Do you happen to have a comic
bookmarked?


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-19 03:47 [#02222911]
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It's spartan and not lovely like other yoga.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2008-07-19 07:51 [#02222954]
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what are the Iyengis like?


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-19 07:58 [#02222955]
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well fine
it was what i started with and i guess i feel a 'click' with
the instructor, he's awesome
half the time i don't understand what he means, but i keep
asking and i'm kinda used to having to figure some stuff out
myself

i'm on a search for my yoga and i think i want to see wether
there's yoga in my city that also goes into meditation


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-19 08:00 [#02222956]
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there's another instructor too but i don't know wether i
know her yet
(i started doing iyengar at kungfu and sometimes there was
another instructor filling in for the guy but i don't know
wether that's the same instructor as at his school)


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2008-07-19 08:03 [#02222957]
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good good :)

keep looking, keep trying new things.

there are a few yoga groups here that do meditation, but
they don't teach asana. They are more "guru' based groups.



 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-19 08:12 [#02222960]
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Thanks! I will :)

See I think yoga can be meditation through exercise, and
it's what mr. B.K.S. Iyengar says too. But I understand lots
of Indians don't understand how you can do yoga and not
meditate, because the exercise is just for keeping your body
fit for meditation.

If yoga is meditation through exercise than it is a specific
kind of meditation. I think you could get other results by
sitting still and meditate. It's something I want to try.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-07-20 13:08 [#02223285]
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I was well into meditation at one point, but i abandoned it
again, because it just started to get silly. It's a nice
sensation afterwards and all... But it didn't do that much
for me. My father used to do it an hour a day for a long
period, and he also stopped because it just got pointless.

There is one good thing i got out of it though, the whole
gazing meditation thing. I started out with the thing with
looking into a candle for a while, and it was really great.
I've actually been able to get similiar sensations waiting
for the bus by myself, or things like that, so it's even
kind of usefull like that, because i never get bored when i
have to wait for something!

About the yoga - Any news on that? I really want to start
for real myself, again, but i don't really know wich path to
follow. I do the 5 tibetans, and a stance that i only know
the danish term for, but translates into something like
"hymn to the sun". I really like the repetition of the two.
Sitting/standing in stances for a long times doesn't appeal
that much to me, so what should i choose then?


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-07-20 13:09 [#02223286]
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Also, reading all of your posts, i can't help thinking about
the turtle boy doing yoga, and meditating.


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-20 13:20 [#02223287]
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I think that's the greeting of the sun, every yoga does it
and yoga does it in a different way. I did it once on the
beach, to the sun, it was great.

I can only advise to go out and try yoga's. Maybe what you
want is ashtanga (http://www.ashtanga.com/), in that form
you move more (into different poses all the time) than
standing still. I advise everyone though to do Iyengar
though. It's based on classic hatha yoga but made bearable
for westerners, or something like that, look it up.

I think you shouldn't just sit down and meditate but get
some guidance so you know what to do and what your goals can
be.

Turtleboy doesn't meditate alot anymore these days, he's
already enlightened


 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-20 13:21 [#02223288]
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I'm writing an article on why people do yoga, I know a lot
by now. Maybe I'll translate it when it's finally done.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-07-20 15:10 [#02223299]
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I've meditated with Andrew Cohen and all sorts of people
like him, but they all turn out to be little more than very
charismatic people with delusions of grandeur.

Now, i really like the writings of Anthony de Mello, because
they are totally ridden of every bullshit notion that
religion has ever thought up about enlightenment (in my
oppinion).

Essentially, i just realised along the way of my years of
reading about spirituality, that we are all completely
alone, and there is no complete truth to anything, and if
anyone stands up and says that he's figured it all out, you
shouldnt listen to him. Fuck enlightenment, i'm just going
to be a fucking, shitting, eating animal till i die :)

Does turtle boy hold any seminars by the way? Maybe i could
join his cult.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-07-20 15:32 [#02223306]
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i like to do sipiritual thing via "ordinary life things"

the ritual on habitual things,like to eat and to read xlt.
(pure intention,selfcontrol,joy)
memoria/body/intentions/phobias/education/order/chaos



 

online big from lsg on 2008-07-20 15:36 [#02223308]
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I haven't read that much about spirituality, though I have a
lot of books. I just want to find out by doing. I know what
your saying about those big time gurus. Just a good teacher
is something else though.

To be like turtleboy you just have to really like turtles.

Does anybody hold any opinions on Hare Krishna btw?


 


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