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Does anyone know how many quickly mpcs can handle midi in data? for example i'm making max software that causes more than 128 retrigs in a beat at fast tempos. Could an MPC 1000 handle this many sample triggers? Is there an upper most tempo that these units have? Some of my other gear has been reseting when i try this. Cheers anyone. |
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You say you are English? |
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hah. |
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you might be better asking this question because i'm not sure there are many mpc users on here |
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Actually in response the the original question I found that the midi output timing in MAX left a lot to be desired. I'm no expert in these things but the only time I got the results I was after was when doing the sound synthesis in MSP. |
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indeed i'm aware of the timing issues but sequencing will be running at signal rate so it's ok. cheers tho, and yes it looks like i should have proof read that one=] ta all. |
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that company i forget the name that makes those brilliant sync/midi timing boxes that cost a lot and can shift timing clocks, dunno if they are still in business, brilliant product but costly (tho worth it) well anyway, he did some mental tests with an oscilloscope etc and found mpc 2000/xl came out one of the very best. i think old atari or amiga was the best coz its totally dedicated to the task as opposed to windows and all that nonsense. sounds like you are being very ambitious, good luck |
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What are you trying to do? 128 retrigs at fast tempo = ???? why only specify one number, which is meaningless without the tempo? I've got a mpc1000 and have never tried to do what you're on about. It may depend on the OS you're using. Basic akai OS is pretty rubbish, I use JJOS1, but there is a newer JJOS2. I don't know how these would affect it. I have had a problem where the mpc "soft thru" strips sysex messages, but sounds like this is irrelevant. I will be using the mpc later today so I might have a play if I can be bothered to work out what you're trying to do. You might wanna try asking on the mpc-forums.com website. There are some good people there (unfortunately a huge amounts of dickhead hip hop bwoys too) |
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basically it's like a graphic interface for rhythm that isn't based on step sequencing. i've got the interface done & using max objects for the sample playback, however i'm not keen on the sound quality of msp. I was curious what the limits of hardware samplers would be to replace play~ and groove~. the upper limit on the patch at the minute would permit the equivalent of 128 notes played at 350-400 bpm at which point other conditionals in the program are met. I've had a peep in mpc-forums.com but there certainly is a lot of bwoys there. does the JJOS has a maximum tempo? am i right in thinking the step seq in JJOS is at 64th resolution? thanks for your time. |
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128th* |
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sorry don't understand. (a) Are you trying to trigger samples on a hardware sampler from the computer via midi? (b) Are you trying to use a hardware sequencer to trigger samples on a hardware sampler? (c) Are you trying to use a hardware sequencer to trigger samples on a computer? When you say step seq in JJOS, do you mean the grid editor? There is a step editor, which is a textual interface with each note denoted by the time it was triggered and then a list of parameters. The JJOS has a grid editor, which has 1/32 triplets max resolution. You can tweak notes by more but not on grid editor. In the step editor you can control it to 0.00.00, i.e. 1.02.99 would be just before the 3rd beat on the first bar. Hope that makes sense. Max tempo on my JJOS1 is 300BPM. |
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the actual sound of/with/from mpc's is not at all great |
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that's cool. I'm triggering via midi but i was keen to find out the manufacturer limits. Some kit you can play beyond what the user interface on the machine allows using sysex etc but you can get bugs, I've had some things freeze and reset. I know the mpc's are less than perfect machines but they'd be an improvement on msp's sound quality (personally). thanks for your help. |
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