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thats more because you're actively thinking rather than being inspired by something which cannot be explained with words. an idea, concept or emotion will never be reducable to mere language, unless you are seductive and can draw people into your frame of mind with words, but then it would be a lot better to draw them in with your music. i may be off the hook when it came to this property crap, but i do know one thing about music making, and that is when you have an emotion, and thoughts with it, an internalized vision, and you are able to fulfill that vision physically with sound, well there's nothing better. my advice? get inspired, get internalized. |
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i had to use a sainsburys trolley to get home last night. Lucky i hads me a large sleeping bag. |
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did you include "space" as an ingredient? silence? |
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OK so yea you have the fundamental properties of music. The basic theory. But with noise, glitch, abstract music etc. you have a different subset of principals, standards & forms. We haven't defined most of it yet, it all kind of exists in passion, intuition, somewhere in the ether i guess. Those principals behave based on their relationship to the rules of traditional music. How much do they bend them, how much do they try to retain them. It is relevant, imo. |
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hehe |
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does speed play a part. in this thing called musics? did i say space? :P how about the receiving end and how that connects ... distortion .of the source. the transmition path and the coneversion translation tingy.. emotion perspective of the listener. how they be conflicting and exemplifying the feels from zee musics? to exagerate my dog might be dead...im pissed off ...doesnt matter how fking happy the tune is , im peeved.... emotions distorting the feels recieved... whatever .....an ting |
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i havent read this thread . im on the wrong track probably but im too tired to check.. continued..... like everyones emotional lens is distorted.....everyones lens is changing ....how can you GRASP ( < peeved off or happpy a listener is they will be Sweapt off their feet and journey to the land desired by the artist. an ting. |
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However abstract the music, it's still about pitch, loudness, duration and timbre, just like painting is about colour, intensity, texture and placement (or something to that effect, I'm a lousy painter). |
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MELODY AND RHYTHM ARE FUCKING NOT THE SAME THING!!!!!!!! a shape can have a color, and something with color can have shape, but THIS DOES NOT MAKE SHAPE AND COLOR THE SAME THING!!!!! |
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Four basic properties of music? I don't believe in that shit, yo. It's reductionism. |
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Which is why pitch and duration make more sense than melody and rhythm, you dolt. |
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also, just because music is abstract or weird doesn't exempt it. microtonal music still has pitch, it just isn't within the standard division of notes. glitch has rhythm, it just its very strangely arranged. this thread fucking hurts my brain. god forbid anyone with any formal training in music see this and see "idm" for what it is: a bunch of clueless nerds trying to make music that is "complicated" without having any idea of what complicated music is. |
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pitch and duration are in reference to a single note whereas melody and rhythm refer to the pitch and duration of multiple notes. a measure of music will have a melody but not a singular pitch (usually). also, why are you calling me a dolt? we seem to be on the same side here. |
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on the same side here. nevermind. |
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this thread is still stupid. worse than before, infact. |
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please dont blame me |
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You're a coward and a bore. |
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"god forbid anyone with any formal training in music" Sir, these people have their own delusions and close-minded limitations, just like anybody else. Not all of them, obviously; some are real cute. And it is possible to be fairly rubbish at quantifying music in words and still good at making/playing it. Some of the worst music I've ever heard is vomited up by some of the most eloquent of individuals. I guess that goes into conceptual approaches vs other approaches, or some stuff. Anyway, you've created some good reading pal, I'll stop embarrassing myself. |
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