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i have never touched synthedit before and i could need some help with a little thing i want to make. the thing is totally simple - what i want to have is just 7 knobs that send out midi and a list knob that does the same. i would want to have an option to choose which cc's they send and be able to edit the list entries. could someone help mi with that ? i started with just adding a list knob into synthedit and exporting that and the vst hangs live completely... |
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i can't help you.but i think you are a very nice man. |
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the moment i turn gay i'll give you a call |
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erm you'd be better off calling somebody gay i think.but good luck with it. |
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i know you aren't you bad boy you |
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ok,fancy a fuck. |
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there's this handy MIDI Controller module that might help you a bit more on your way, you're able to send out any CC from 4 output pins on any incoming MIDI channel. Is it that you want to make some sort of dashboard for controlling vst's? This guy 'Dave Haupt' (google for his modules) has some nice homebrew MIDI Learn module available (along with loads of other great and free ones). Check out his page, you might just find what you're looking for. |
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thanks. it's a bit of a longish story what i want to achieve but yea - dashboard is probably the right name of what i want to do. dave haupt you say. the thing is that the midi controller does exactly the oposite. my problem is not to control the knobs via midi but to make them send midi. the only module i have found that does something similar is cv to gate. what i need is something like cv to cc. |
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perhaps "CV to Midi" under the MIDI module menu? And from there route with controllers? Haven't done much with the MIDI modules in synthedit, only the regular MIDI to CV and some external MIDI controlling using lightsensors |
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okay in fact i found his site and exactly what i wanted - a cv to cc module but that one doesn't really seem to work. |
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the gate works fine after all. |
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allright. that was like sooooo straightforward that you have to put a fixed falue of 10 volts to the "gate" input so the controller will work... yeah fuck me |
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:D |
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okay this stuff is fucked. i just read that the midi in and out modules don't really do anything when used as a vst plugin so my whole work was worth nothing actually. great stuff that synthedit. |
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what? where? |
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copied from the synthedit help files: MIDI Out Provides a connection to the physical MIDI out port set in the preferences dialog. Note: This module only functions within the SynthEdit editing environment. It does nothing when used in a VST plugin. |
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WTF? That's total bollocks (why on earth that's in the Help files I DO NOT KNOW) cos I wrote and regularly use a plugin I wrote and exported in Synthedit (as a VST in a host program) to send random CCs to my Machinedrum via MIDI. Oh and btw, I use Synthedit :P |
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I also use Haupt's CV -> MIDI CC module thing to do that too... |
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haha you're a bit late pal because i just did it myself. after using reaktor for several years synthedit seems just sooooo not straightforward it's totally frightening. the thing why this didn't work was that se needs any module that might make some sound in the plugin. i had just like a container and in it a knob, the cc to midi thingie and a midi out. now i had to add a dca and connect it to a sound out to make it work !!!!!! jesus what the fuck. afterwards i wanted to make the same thing with the vst in effect mode and not synth mode and i needed another hour to realise that in this mode i have to connect an audio in with the audio out so i'll work. jesus x 2 if i wouldn't need se for just one simple thing it has among reaktor and synthmaker which is very important for me i would toss this shit out of the window. |
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okay i guess that the question what this thing is that se has and reaktor not will pop up in a second so i reply now. so synthedit is the only program that when used in ableton, show the list entry names instead of just numbers. reaktor and synthmaker just show divisions of numbers. that's important when you have like a synth and you want to change the oscilator curve. synthedit will show you saw, sine, pulse and so on as you cycle through it, every other plugin will just show you 0.2, 0,4 or 1/3 or something like that. why is that important to me ? the thing is that i'm trying to make a quasi-automap with mu mackie control in ableton. i stuff these se plugins between my mackie and any plugin out there and after some midi binding i can control the parameters i want with my mackie control. also - this way i can control only the stuff i want. mackie has the problem that you cannot like in automap choose which controls are important to you and you have to scroll through everything. |
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i have the opposite effect with Reaktor, it dazzles me how many modules you have to use for a one osc synth that aren't really necessary (in Synthedit). |
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Yeah, each kinda synth-DIY program (heh) has its pros and cons. My favourite is SE, and I can use it well most of the time because I've grown up with it as it were, but I find Reaktor tricky to use. But again, Reaktor has some very good pros. Indeed, SE is simpler, and I respect it for that. |
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the workflow with se seems to be worse than reaktor. the lack of double click to get into a module and switching between panel view and structure completely kills it for me at the moment. i mean i surely won't get all to much into se because i don't really feel the need for it. i actually rather try to get away from those types of software because they are killing me. i can't really work in a software that literally doesn't give me any restrictions. i tried to make a few synths in reaktor but ended up making some totally huge synths eating up my cpu with 200 + knobs. yeah. synthedit and reaktor are for me at the moment only for midi/sequencing stuff and i'm quite happy with reaktor at the moment. |
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Cool, fair enough. Reaktor's definitely better at doing sequencing, but they're both pretty able (as long as you download extra SE modules) with MIDI controlling, etc. I find SynthEdit really gives you unexpected effects when you try to design parts of a synth from the theoretical/electronic way that they work. For example, instead of using just the filter module, using an op-amp (level adjuster) with a feedback loop (which, in software, creates a delay/flanging effect). From this, you get a strange filtering AND flanging effect, so with added delay in the feedback loop, you can get some really bizarre sounds. I need to try out building an oscillator from different cores and stuff, that would be weird. |
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both programs have their pros :) I'm planning to look into Reaktor again, and a bit more this time. |
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when it comes to sounds i discovered vaz modular like a month ago and i'm totally in love with it. the sound is just so damn good and really analog at times. also it has a small amount of units and they are closed so you cannot for example further rebuild an osc. also it has some nice modules that makes it a cool option like the granular oscilator. and you don't have that stupid thing that you have to make some ensemble or vst or whatever which is hard wired but you can just save the presets with different wiring and recall it live. reminds me a lot of a nord modular when it comes to handling altough it could have a few elements that the clavia has. you know i cannot really find the time right know to squander it with some experimental linking of modules. it's just too time consuming. what i really would want to have after this summer is a setup that will be hard wired and finished which will allow me to fastly change my ideas into songs and also fastly turn them into livesets. that's why i want this whole mackie control - se - synth stuff. this will allow me to control a synth without even looking at the pc screen at all. which is great. |
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