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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:20 [#02200955]
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 I've been taking this class on The Beatles (its a lower div  music class, so a combo of history and really dumbed down  theory) and after trudging through four weeks of their  material from please please me to rubber soul - granted its  well written pop music, but its still just that: pop music -  it's a joy to be listening to finally be listening to the  beatles i love.
 
  on the recommendation of my professor i've gotten ahold of  the dr. ebbett remastered mono mix and am getting baked  listening on headphones (yes, all those were parts were  recommended by my prof) and it really does sound amazingly  better than the stereo cd mix i had gotten used to.
 
  also, in class today we watched a great hour-long-or-so  documentary on the making of sgt. pepper's which was a sound  geeks dream as a large chunk of it was george martin (the  beatle's producer for those who don't know) deconstructing  the individual four-track masters, just talking about  different recording techniques, instrumentation etc. really  makes me wish i had downloaded the four-track masters when i  saw them because i can't find them now.
 
  so what do you y'all have to say about what is, if not one  of the best albums ever made (as i was reminded of when i  searched to see if this thread had its own appreciation  thread there's a lot of beatle-hating around here),  undeniably the most influential in western music in the  latter half of the millennium? 
 
  
         
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           glasse
             from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:26 [#02200958]
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I think someone should do a bands fake band mash up.  Bowie  had Diamond Dogs and Ziggy Startdust.  Who else had an  alternate band concept? 
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:28 [#02200959]
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i think its shit.
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
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white album, abbey road & hard days night are seminal. they  are quality for different reasons.
 
  peppers is overrated, its dull, its pompous, its borderline  arrogant, and its a fucking nightmare to listen to.
 
  sorry.
 
 
  
         
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           glasse
             from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:31 [#02200962]
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i have an original abbey road on vinyl :P
  i also have barbara streisand the way we were.
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:32 [#02200963]
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thats not something you tell other ppl.
 
  
         
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           glasse
             from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:34 [#02200964]
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i have it i didnt buy it.  i think they were my moms records  or my uncles.  there is all kinds of john denver rocky  mountain xmas and that kind of shit in there.  
 
  
         
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           AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:36 [#02200965]
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I can never love them. Some of my worst dreams have had  penny lane playing in the background. The first was when I  was 8 and my sister and mom and dad were lined up against a  white wall. Penny lane was on while a piant roller danced to  the tune. It then proceeded to float around and piant out my  family VERY SLOWLY, they each looked deperate and sad as the  evil roller deleted them one by one. It swayed and dipped  mockingly in time to the tune. I hate it now FOREVER. 
 
  
         
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           glasse
             from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:36 [#02200966]
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OH There is a James Bond Goldfinger record too w John Barry
 
 
  
         
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           Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-05-01 22:37 [#02200967]
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Definitely not the best album ever, or even the Beatles'  best, but it's great mess. In a different, optimum timeline,  Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane are added, two of the  weaker tunes are subtracted, and the album is 150% better.  Their albums were always gimped because of their AAA  singles.
 
  And the pompous arrogance is half the fun! It's wonderfully  masturbatory and shameless.  
 
  
         
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           AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:45 [#02200973]
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PENNY LANE MUST DIE. READ MY POST BELOW FOR AN EXPLAINATION!
 
  
         
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           earthleakage
             from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:57 [#02200983]
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mccartney was up his own arse so fucking much by then you  could see his head poking out of his... head. its a god  awful painful listen, a day in the life is fantastic but  even as a concept album it reeks of pretentiosness.
 
  a big NO. there are some much better albums even by the band  themselves.
 
  the media hype and this frivolous "best album ever" nonsense  doesnt help, but really, even if you can ignore that, ifor  me its shockingly poor. im not trying to make a name for  myself by mocking it, just as with my peers i slate oasis,  but i find it ugly and thouoghly unlistenable. 
 
  
         
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           AMPI MAX
             from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:59 [#02200986]
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Me and the donkey agree. I hates it. I hates it
 
  
         
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           obara
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i only like Lucy in the skies with diamonds, the rest of the  album is odd
 
  Within you without you is not bad either, but i prefer the  Dead Can Dance re-interpretation 
 
  
         
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           PS
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Yes, most of the Ebbetts UK Mono releases are the way to go,  and the Abbey Road MFSL is outstanding, considering.  'Quite  a few slight surprises on the Mono White Album, get that one  next on that giant public torrent floating around.  Sir  McCartney said it was okay to fileshare his music and that  if he were young today, he'd probably be doing the same.   He's still got those sweet eyes, you know.
 
  I never wanted to know what two songs were getting the axe,  but I'm pretty sure "When I'm Sixty-Four" was one of them.   Even baked, it's a chore sitting through that one.  And to  think, it's one of my friend's favorites (no taste).   Magical Mystery Tour has got to be the most back-heavy(?)  album ever slapped together.   
 
  
         
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           PS
             on 2008-05-02 01:40 [#02200999]
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Oh, and I really like the metallic voices they use.
 
  
         
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           PS
             on 2008-05-02 02:02 [#02201000]
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"When I'm Sixty-Four" isn't so bad.  (I just remembered the  "we will skimp and save" part)  
 
  Here's Eternos Beatles.  Kaleidoscope might interest you,  hedfucker, it's all the Yellow Submarine Soundtrack channels  broken up. 
 
  
         
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           1up
             from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 03:22 [#02201004]
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can't say i've ever really been big into the beatles. i've  given them a good listen on a number of occasions and i  totally appreciate everything they've done for music and the  influence they've had on a lot of the bands i like, however  they just don't grab me.i think a lot of kids like them  because they've had their parents influence. for me it's  AC/DC and led zep all the way. 
 
  
         
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           1up
             from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 03:23 [#02201005]
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anyway, who needs the beatles when we got oasis! ;)
 
  
         
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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 04:12 [#02201009]
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hehe, this thread turned out pretty much exactly as i  thought ;)
 
  but id still like to say, despite the pretension and media  hype and everything surrounding it, you can't deny this  album had a supremely everlasting impact on western pop  music (and in this sense of the word, pretty much everything  we listen to today is pop music). what do you think of that  aspect (the birth of the concept album, the use of the  studio as an instrument in itself, the producer as an  artist, and the sheer ingenuity of the use of eclectic  instruments, which during this day and age hardly seems  daring, but at the time had never been heard before in a pop  song)?
 
  did i over do it on the parenthetical statements?
 
  
         
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           marlowe
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It has some of Paul McCartney's most annoying songs. I love  the Lennon songs and I love the Harrison song.
 
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           horsefactory
             from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 05:00 [#02201018]
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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 05:57 [#02201035]
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oh you bastard.
  stop checking for enemies and start contributing something  to the thread, damnit! 
 
  
         
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           rad smiles
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that weird sound collage loop at the end of the album is  awesome. i wish they did more stuff like that.  
 
  
         
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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 06:26 [#02201042]
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i was actually really pissed cuz i realized the remaster i  downloaded only played the inner groove once through -  didn't even loops it like the cd does! 
 
  
         
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           rad smiles
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           Co-existence
             from Bergen (Norway) on 2008-05-02 11:21 [#02201127]
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overrated... They're only in it for the money... 
 
  
         
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           Co-existence
             from Bergen (Norway) on 2008-05-02 11:23 [#02201128]
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the only album more overrated than sgt.p. in the history of  popular music must be ok computer... 
 
  
         
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           010101
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I met Peter Blake once and he was a very nice bloke, we  drank whiskey and he paid! 
 
  
         
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           OK
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LAZY_MULTITRACK
 
  
         
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           J198
             from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-05-03 19:20 [#02202058]
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fuck all you haters. this album is brilliant.
  *OFFICIAL SEAL OF APPROVAL AND APPRECIATION*
 
  
         
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           Barf Simpleton
             from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-05-03 21:44 [#02202081]
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check out Mr Burns rockin the faders ::::::::::
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BspQ4b1gd4
  OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
 
  
         
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           hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-04 00:50 [#02202086]
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dude, george martin is the fucking man. the beatles wouldnt  have been half the band they became without him. plus he  alone established the creative role a producer can have on  an album. 
 
  
         
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           Barf Simpleton
             from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-05-04 05:05 [#02202115]
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Dude mr burns is the fuckin beast the beastles wouldnt of  beasted half as hard if hadnt been beastly in the control  room plus phil spector and many others established the  creative role a producer can have on an album and pet sounds  and freak out pioneered the use of "eclectic instruments"too  . I dig the beasts but they just marched on whatever parade  was happenin at the time GET IT ? University SUCKS 
 
  
         
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           marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2008-05-04 05:14 [#02202116]
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