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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:20 [#02200955]
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I've been taking this class on The Beatles (its a lower div music class, so a combo of history and really dumbed down theory) and after trudging through four weeks of their material from please please me to rubber soul - granted its well written pop music, but its still just that: pop music - it's a joy to be listening to finally be listening to the beatles i love.
on the recommendation of my professor i've gotten ahold of the dr. ebbett remastered mono mix and am getting baked listening on headphones (yes, all those were parts were recommended by my prof) and it really does sound amazingly better than the stereo cd mix i had gotten used to.
also, in class today we watched a great hour-long-or-so documentary on the making of sgt. pepper's which was a sound geeks dream as a large chunk of it was george martin (the beatle's producer for those who don't know) deconstructing the individual four-track masters, just talking about different recording techniques, instrumentation etc. really makes me wish i had downloaded the four-track masters when i saw them because i can't find them now.
so what do you y'all have to say about what is, if not one of the best albums ever made (as i was reminded of when i searched to see if this thread had its own appreciation thread there's a lot of beatle-hating around here), undeniably the most influential in western music in the latter half of the millennium?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:26 [#02200958]
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I think someone should do a bands fake band mash up. Bowie had Diamond Dogs and Ziggy Startdust. Who else had an alternate band concept?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:28 [#02200959]
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i think its shit.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:30 [#02200961]
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white album, abbey road & hard days night are seminal. they are quality for different reasons.
peppers is overrated, its dull, its pompous, its borderline arrogant, and its a fucking nightmare to listen to.
sorry.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:31 [#02200962]
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i have an original abbey road on vinyl :P
i also have barbara streisand the way we were.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:32 [#02200963]
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thats not something you tell other ppl.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:34 [#02200964]
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i have it i didnt buy it. i think they were my moms records or my uncles. there is all kinds of john denver rocky mountain xmas and that kind of shit in there.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:36 [#02200965]
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I can never love them. Some of my worst dreams have had penny lane playing in the background. The first was when I was 8 and my sister and mom and dad were lined up against a white wall. Penny lane was on while a piant roller danced to the tune. It then proceeded to float around and piant out my family VERY SLOWLY, they each looked deperate and sad as the evil roller deleted them one by one. It swayed and dipped mockingly in time to the tune. I hate it now FOREVER.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-01 22:36 [#02200966]
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OH There is a James Bond Goldfinger record too w John Barry
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-05-01 22:37 [#02200967]
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Definitely not the best album ever, or even the Beatles' best, but it's great mess. In a different, optimum timeline, Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane are added, two of the weaker tunes are subtracted, and the album is 150% better. Their albums were always gimped because of their AAA singles.
And the pompous arrogance is half the fun! It's wonderfully masturbatory and shameless.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:45 [#02200973]
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PENNY LANE MUST DIE. READ MY POST BELOW FOR AN EXPLAINATION!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-01 22:57 [#02200983]
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mccartney was up his own arse so fucking much by then you could see his head poking out of his... head. its a god awful painful listen, a day in the life is fantastic but even as a concept album it reeks of pretentiosness.
a big NO. there are some much better albums even by the band themselves.
the media hype and this frivolous "best album ever" nonsense doesnt help, but really, even if you can ignore that, ifor me its shockingly poor. im not trying to make a name for myself by mocking it, just as with my peers i slate oasis, but i find it ugly and thouoghly unlistenable.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2008-05-01 22:59 [#02200986]
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Me and the donkey agree. I hates it. I hates it
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-05-02 00:13 [#02200991]
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i only like Lucy in the skies with diamonds, the rest of the album is odd
Within you without you is not bad either, but i prefer the Dead Can Dance re-interpretation
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PS
on 2008-05-02 01:38 [#02200998]
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Yes, most of the Ebbetts UK Mono releases are the way to go, and the Abbey Road MFSL is outstanding, considering. 'Quite a few slight surprises on the Mono White Album, get that one next on that giant public torrent floating around. Sir McCartney said it was okay to fileshare his music and that if he were young today, he'd probably be doing the same. He's still got those sweet eyes, you know.
I never wanted to know what two songs were getting the axe, but I'm pretty sure "When I'm Sixty-Four" was one of them. Even baked, it's a chore sitting through that one. And to think, it's one of my friend's favorites (no taste). Magical Mystery Tour has got to be the most back-heavy(?) album ever slapped together.
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PS
on 2008-05-02 01:40 [#02200999]
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Oh, and I really like the metallic voices they use.
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PS
on 2008-05-02 02:02 [#02201000]
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"When I'm Sixty-Four" isn't so bad. (I just remembered the "we will skimp and save" part)
Here's Eternos Beatles. Kaleidoscope might interest you, hedfucker, it's all the Yellow Submarine Soundtrack channels broken up.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 03:22 [#02201004]
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can't say i've ever really been big into the beatles. i've given them a good listen on a number of occasions and i totally appreciate everything they've done for music and the influence they've had on a lot of the bands i like, however they just don't grab me.i think a lot of kids like them because they've had their parents influence. for me it's AC/DC and led zep all the way.
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 03:23 [#02201005]
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anyway, who needs the beatles when we got oasis! ;)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 04:12 [#02201009]
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hehe, this thread turned out pretty much exactly as i thought ;)
but id still like to say, despite the pretension and media hype and everything surrounding it, you can't deny this album had a supremely everlasting impact on western pop music (and in this sense of the word, pretty much everything we listen to today is pop music). what do you think of that aspect (the birth of the concept album, the use of the studio as an instrument in itself, the producer as an artist, and the sheer ingenuity of the use of eclectic instruments, which during this day and age hardly seems daring, but at the time had never been heard before in a pop song)?
did i over do it on the parenthetical statements?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-02 04:29 [#02201014]
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It has some of Paul McCartney's most annoying songs. I love the Lennon songs and I love the Harrison song.
I prefer Abbey Road
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-02 05:00 [#02201018]
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well done
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 05:57 [#02201035]
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oh you bastard.
stop checking for enemies and start contributing something to the thread, damnit!
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rad smiles
on 2008-05-02 06:17 [#02201038]
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that weird sound collage loop at the end of the album is awesome. i wish they did more stuff like that.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-02 06:26 [#02201042]
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i was actually really pissed cuz i realized the remaster i downloaded only played the inner groove once through - didn't even loops it like the cd does!
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rad smiles
on 2008-05-02 11:18 [#02201125]
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that sucks!
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2008-05-02 11:21 [#02201127]
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overrated... They're only in it for the money...
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2008-05-02 11:23 [#02201128]
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the only album more overrated than sgt.p. in the history of popular music must be ok computer...
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-02 11:33 [#02201136]
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I met Peter Blake once and he was a very nice bloke, we drank whiskey and he paid!
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OK
on 2008-05-02 11:37 [#02201137]
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LAZY_MULTITRACK
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-05-03 19:20 [#02202058]
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fuck all you haters. this album is brilliant.
*OFFICIAL SEAL OF APPROVAL AND APPRECIATION*
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-05-03 21:44 [#02202081]
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check out Mr Burns rockin the faders ::::::::::
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-BspQ4b1gd4
OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-04 00:50 [#02202086]
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dude, george martin is the fucking man. the beatles wouldnt have been half the band they became without him. plus he alone established the creative role a producer can have on an album.
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Barf Simpleton
from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-05-04 05:05 [#02202115]
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Dude mr burns is the fuckin beast the beastles wouldnt of beasted half as hard if hadnt been beastly in the control room plus phil spector and many others established the creative role a producer can have on an album and pet sounds and freak out pioneered the use of "eclectic instruments"too . I dig the beasts but they just marched on whatever parade was happenin at the time GET IT ? University SUCKS
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-04 05:14 [#02202116]
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That's a ridiculous statement to make.
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