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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-04-30 11:05 [#02199796]
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LAZY_IRAN
I don't have a crystal ball but if I did I would have to guess that America is going to have to introduce Democracy to Iran soon.
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-04-30 11:17 [#02199800]
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if i had a nickel everytime sobebody told me "OMG WE'LL INVADE IRAN WITHIN 6 MONTHS" i'd be some dude with, well, about 45 cents.
anyways, ain't gonna happen. maybe if iraq hadn't turned into a fucken mess, but now? naaahhh... that warmongering shit has backfired badly for the administration.
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hexane
on 2008-04-30 11:21 [#02199802]
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hi swears, sup
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-04-30 11:28 [#02199806]
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If any big oil producer chooses not to use US dollars for oil it will have a massive knock on effect on the economy.
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big
from lsg on 2008-04-30 11:29 [#02199807]
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OMG Crystal Dude is swears!?
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-04-30 11:30 [#02199809]
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really?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 11:37 [#02199820]
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something would have to happen for the us to go into iran with how things are right now. it is an election year and what cyrstal dude said. americans are very change minded right now, but we are still stung from how this whole thing started and people are on edge because of the economy. so if something happened over there while we are still in iraq then i could see this thing blowing up further. otherwise the new leadership will probably wind it down and start bringing more people home.
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hexane
on 2008-04-30 11:39 [#02199822]
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hi swears, sup
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-04-30 11:40 [#02199823]
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powell needs to present evidence innit
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 11:43 [#02199829]
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i dont think they are in a position to try those kind of tricks.
they got away with that because of 911
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-30 11:43 [#02199832]
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Not only that.. aren't all the (likely) candidates all "bring 'the boys' back home?"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-04-30 11:45 [#02199835]
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it's a touchy subject no one wants to be clear about. as far as i know hilary is all for troops staying there
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 11:46 [#02199836]
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yea. they almost have to be in the current culture. i don't know a single person who thinks we should still be over there.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2008-04-30 11:46 [#02199837]
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"they got away with that because of 911"
that would make most people stupid. which i suppose is right
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 11:53 [#02199842]
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Julius Caesar talked about how willing people are to trade in their freedoms when they are afraid and looking to you for security. After 911 the people pretty much said "here is a blank check, do whatever you have to do."
And so began the campaign of these military industrialists and oil tycoons. Now we cannot even drive our cars it is too expensive.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-04-30 13:10 [#02199885]
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yes, us poor americans, finally paying the same gas prices as the rest of the world.
what are things coming to??
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-04-30 13:13 [#02199888]
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hedpukkerr, this isn't just about oil prices. it's about the value of the dollar. it's not that one-sided, m8.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-04-30 13:14 [#02199891]
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i was only responding to glasse's comment, im well aware out dollar is on the verge of tanking the global economy.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-04-30 13:56 [#02199903]
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I am selling all the stock I have in the American Stock Markets now.
I am going to buy gold, a physical block of 24 carat gold with all the money I can get. Because I believe that we are screwed.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 14:11 [#02199912]
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you are right it is the combination of the gas prices and the economy that is really putting the hurting.
in my company the only thing they are talking about is revenue. everyone is going crazy trying to do anything to drive top line sales.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 14:13 [#02199913]
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many companies are closing locations and making major cuts.
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 15:54 [#02199966]
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IT DOESNT MATTER WHO GETS ELECTED. WE WILL GO TO WAR WITH IRAN.
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Ead1528
from Bucks County, PA (United States) on 2008-04-30 16:09 [#02199973]
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Iran, I'm not worried about much anymore. Now, China is a country we might have to be careful with. Then again, probably not. The US govn't is already intimidated by China.
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 16:18 [#02199976]
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if we bomb-bomb-bomb bomb-bomb-iran won't that get russia and china involved?
i predict by 2010 we'll all be drafted and fighting some final showdown.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-04-30 17:08 [#02200004]
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the day you'll be worried is the one you won't have enough money for food
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mimi
on 2008-04-30 17:10 [#02200008]
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omg all the savings i don't have will soon be worthless
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-30 17:20 [#02200021]
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According to Scott Ritter (former UN weapons inspector), Bush ordered the military to be prepared to launch strikes against Iran in June 2005.
You can find a few mp3s of his speeches that make for interesting listening.
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 17:23 [#02200027]
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t+ 3 years?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-04-30 17:25 [#02200029]
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youre fucking late, any clued up ponse knew this already
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 17:28 [#02200035]
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you seem angry. r u ok?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-04-30 17:31 [#02200039]
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i'm not angry, i just feel insulted by ignorance. this has been coming for years.
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 17:33 [#02200043]
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hey its a messarge board.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-30 17:35 [#02200046]
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Hi earthleakage! How are you keeping?
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-04-30 17:37 [#02200049]
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if coordinated militia attacks were to continue, and it were to come out that they were being funded by surrounding arab nations, then i could see the situation escalating instead of winding down.
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rad smiles
on 2008-04-30 17:38 [#02200052]
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ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-04-30 17:45 [#02200059]
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hi jth! missed u sonny jim. mail me a pass now i have xp and we can have a chat :)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2008-04-30 17:50 [#02200067]
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I don't have your email! Mine's in my profile ...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-05-01 02:22 [#02200339]
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The way it seems to me, everyone's reluctant to say that the war itself was a failure, etc, and angle it like they're supporting "the boys," aiming, rather, for their homecoming than the end of the war (of course the latter would be a consequence of the first, but the first sounds nicer).
[Tolstoyed] Sounds good.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2008-05-01 02:33 [#02200340]
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Another factor in the impending new climate is that the autocracies are gaining ground ... China is huge in cuba, Africa, South America and the Caspian area now.
When you have "failed states" like it consolidating massive power.. while the last main poewr.. usa....gets bogged down in it's failed imperial takeover of a resource-rich region.. things start slowly tipping. Beware the red giant I say...
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-05-01 06:28 [#02200365]
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I really don't see us taking on Iran. Iran has a much-capable armed forces. The Persian Gulf is a bathtub. Iran has plenty of mines and anti ship missiles (AShMs) at their disposal. The terrain is difficult to locate these batteries along the coast. Iran would start attacking cargo and oil ships, which would send oil skyrocketing, yes ... but it would also close off the gulf and then China would certainly get involved. The US isnt the only ones relying on the gulf for oil shipment. Close that off and everyone will suffer.
tuba
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-05-01 07:18 [#02200374]
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"America is going to have to introduce Democracy to Iran soon"
and face the truth that China is the new world leader now
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Sandy
from Morocco (Morocco) on 2008-05-01 11:19 [#02200421]
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hi swears, soup
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2008-05-01 12:14 [#02200476]
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Talk about going from bad to worse
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2008-05-01 12:39 [#02200491]
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cuntdown
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-05-01 12:45 [#02200495]
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not many people are going to fall for the "weapons of mass-destruction" excuse again...or are they?
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