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fuck off back to 4chan |
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DO U LIEK MUDKIPZ????? |
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fuck off |
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a smart reply. yes, i know that the vast majority of americans do it because "its the norm" which is a real shame really. at least you gave your theoretical son the choice, which i think is exactly the right thing to do :) kid: for the uncircumcised male, the penis is actually much more sensitive prior to arousal. belb got it spot on - if our foreskins retracted and chafed against our underwear, it would genuinely hurt. just like direct stimulation of the clitorus, which has a hood for exactly the same reason we have a foreskin. the fact circumcised men don't feel any pain or sensitivity with their glands exposed and chafing against underwear is pretty much all the evidence you need to know that desensitisation has taken place. i will add that my friend also had the operation in his teens (he had retraction issues) and also admitted that prior to the operation, touching the glands in an unaroused state was sensitive/painful. after the operation, it was the same but through the years he now feels nothing. |
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come now, nothing gets xlt going like a good old debate about cocks |
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wouldn't it be nice if a new trend of additional foreskin would start.. all to annoy those american chicks. |
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i just watched the video brisk, i had my hand over my eyes, but i was peeking through, then my hands felt weak and i couldn't bare it, now i'm rocking backwards and forwards....ahh im better now |
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there was this brand of underwear which had a protective "sheath," if you will, for the uncircumcised penis. i wish i could find the link but im failing to do so at the moment. |
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backsickle I'd say a possibility of preventing AIDS is a pretty god damned bright side. |
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LOL! |
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i can see that as an issue with prostitutes, but not for people who don't change their sex partners that often.. |
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the article's not offering much in terms of that, seems to me like a test to see if the risk of HIV can be reduced through circumcision, though I guess it all contributes to the bigger picture in some way. it's also very vague on how the trials work too. i assume they're giving people infections to see how they respond. that open a load of ethical issues, and that's why the WHO have to discuss its implications etc.. |
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Uncircumcised dongers are more likely to get infected yo! |
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tragedy, remember when i sent you a pic of my gorgeous pole and then you replied with a pic of yourself, weeping with joy? that's one of my favorite true stories. |
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Tell me all about it, evolume. |
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I cant believe a thread about cocks has gone down so well. Maybe we need another one. Perhaps a debate about size and shape. |
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All they do is test in places like Africa where a lot of people don't use contraception anyway and circumcise some of them and not others and see which get the highest percentage of aids. Which still has a lot of ethical issues.. The way it's thought to cut down risk of HIV is cos if you're circumcised there's no foreskin to rip and bleed, which could cause transmission of the disease. To offer a female perceptive, i couldnt really give a shit whether someone's circumcised or not, however the one time i was with a circumcised guy, i didnt really know what to do when it came to giving him a hand job, like i was worried I would hurt him cos of the lack of foreskin and therefore added friction. And he did last longer, but I think it's a bit of a myth that girls like sex to last forever and ever. If it goes on too long it can be a bit insulting and frustrating and start to hurt. There's nothing wrong with seeing that a guy is enjoying himself |
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you just can't handle it baby |
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we need a woofter in the pool to sort this one out! mine got chopped off, btw. skin was simply too tight. and that was already when i was 4. BOOYA! |
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im circumsized and i dont see what the big deal is. i can feel incredibly satisfied during sex/masturbation. my gf told me (and i cant hold this accountable as evidence, but..) most girls prefer a circumsized guy, not so gross to suck and perfect for thrusting. fact(oid) |
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The article is actually pretty damned clear about it... They're offering circumcision to a group of people based on the thesis that removing the foreskin could have an effect. Then they monitor them and a control group which isn't circumcised. If there's a statistically significant difference in the percentage of people getting AIDS, they conclude that there may well be an effect. The ethical issue that arose, as the article states, is that they found it to be so effective that it would be unethical not to offer it to the control group as well. |
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ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I JUST SAID THAT! fucking hell torbytoes |
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You're a woman, so you don't count. (sorry) |
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did you know that the foreskin they remove in circumcision, is sometimes used in skin grafts for other people when they have face transplants? FACT |
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They think it unethical not give those without circumcision circumcisions because it may help reduce the risks of contracting HIV for them too. Is it just me, or does that sound silly? Shouldn’t they be trying to save those potentially at risk instead of using them as guinee pigs. Looks to me they’re trying to break a whole load of eggs in oder to make an omelette (let’s assume we don’t want to be breaking any eggs). ” All they do is test in places like Africa where a lot of people don't use contraception anyway” It seems like a really haphazzard way to go about doing research. |
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You wrote that first bit in the most complicated way ever, so I have no idea whether you understood it or not. It's unethical NOT to give people circumcisions, when that might reduce the risks of contracting HIV. They mean it's unethical to use people as human guinea pigs, and only offering circumcision to a select few, when if they offered it to them all, it might reduce the chances of them contracting it. You said shouldn't they be trying to save those potentially at risk instead of using them as guinea pigs... How would they have any idea if circumcising them was helping to save them, if they'd not tested it on anyone first?! They need to do the tests on people before they can say "Oh yeah, circumcision definitely helps, lets offer it to them all!" Otherwise you could just go round saying, well we've not done any tests, but we think cutting your bell-end off might help. WANT IT?! It'd just be pointless, they'd just be doing stuff without any empirical evidence that it worked |
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Cutting off their entire dicks would actually be extremely effective! |
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yeah sorry, i was incredibly stoned last night. i'm amazed i even slightly managed to compose my thoughts there... that's just it right there. ask yourself how important can conclusive, quantitative and qualitative results be in this regard? okay, so they they've been doing studies for years and years on many people. they can quite safely say that circumcision does indeed reduce the risk by 50%. where does that leave us? as WHO dude said : "This is an intervention that must be embedded with all the other interventions and precautions we have. Men must not consider themselves protected. It's a very important intervention to add to our prevention armamentarium." the trials just look dodgy and while it may be good to know. i don't see how it can be significantly benificial in the long run, except maybe for those with circumcised members, which in African societies is many. |
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exactly, where does it end? lets chop off our entire knob to prevent aids transmitted sexually. lets cut off our limbs to prevent shooting up in them. oh and we better embalm ourselves to stop those blood transfusions too, you never know if one of the poz army stormed the blood trenches. stupid. |
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Yeah it's just a bit dodgy, you know? Telling people that being circumcised will stop them getting AIDS. They're more likely to become complacent and think that because they dont have a foreskin that they can fuck people without a condom and be alright. |
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haha you are such a cunt :D Don't act like that was your point in the first place! Your point was that people without foreskin are like women without nipples. |
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did you know that the foreskin removed in circumcisions is often tanned and made into little booties for Eskimo children?! FACT |
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ahahahahaha oh my, the visions that just gave me :D |
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a lot african men already have circumcised members which clearly isn't helping all that much (although, granted, several percentage points less likely to get disease yo!). i wouldn't really call it a 'preventitive measure'. |
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oh god why is everyone saying yo! It's like im in a horrible episode of the Fresh Prince. I wonder though, if they didn't have circumcised er.. members.. would the level of AIDS in Africa be even higher? It's not going to stop the spread of infection, because you can get AIDS from their cum even if you don't get it from their blood, but it might reduce it a bit. There's not really much help though when there are Catholics over there telling the public that wearing condoms doesn't work because the HIV virus is small enough to get through the pores in the condom, in order to put them off wearing them. Wankers. I met a guy about my age from South Africa, and he was saying that a load of them just don't have sex at all because they'd rather that than risk getting teh hiv |
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I wonder though, if they didn't have circumcised er.. members.. would the level of AIDS in Africa be even higher? If circumcisions really do help reduce chance of infection...then yeah, probably. People get tested, know their statuses etc. It's probably alright to just plain out ask someone if they've been tested before getting into bed with them. There are a lot of public campaigns on at the moment telling people to be more open about HIV and not to alienate those who have it etc. |
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"I wonder though, if they didn't have circumcised er.. members.. would the level of AIDS in Africa be even higher? " If the study is right, then, yes. "It's not going to stop the spread of infection, because you can get AIDS from their cum even if you don't get it from their blood, but it might reduce it a bit. " It may not stop the spread, and it won't protect women from getting it from men already infected, no, but if you can cut the number of infected men, it will also cut the number of infected women (men fuck women). |
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well that's exactly what I just said isn't it. That it wouldn't stop it but it might reduce it... |
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would it help to reduce AIDS in Africa if i circumcise myself? |
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yes! obviously |
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In keeping with previous replies, I'm ignoring anything you say that makes sense. |
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why? perhaps she's circumcised as well. to be honest, i wouldn't be surprised. but that's just me. |
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Yeah, statistically circumcision means you have 8x less chance of catching HIV. Maybe Africans should be circumcised for their own benefit. |
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if i'd known when i was a toddler that circumcision could've helped stopping me becoming hiv positive i'd have jumped onto that table |
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it's not too late, i can bring some scissors round if you like? |
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