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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-04-15 16:38 [#02194734]
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anyone else seen this movie?? its so good!!!! imdb
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-04-15 16:40 [#02194736]
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It's an interesting film.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2008-04-15 16:41 [#02194740]
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I keep hearing good things about it. I might actually get round to seeing it at some point.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2008-04-15 16:56 [#02194751]
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It's ok. I love the surreal segments and the first half is brilliant, but when the whole metamorphosis thing kicks in, things get a little silly. Brilliant special effects for the time though.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-04-15 17:13 [#02194758]
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it's really interesting but the 15 minute monkey bit is really cringeworthy. Check out brainstorm if you liked altered states.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-04-15 18:02 [#02194773]
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i liked the premise of the movie but parts of it are really dated to me now. it got me interested in finding more out about Lily and eventually trying my own isolation tank experience which was pretty amazing. I recommend anyone who has any interest in psychedelic meditative or dream like experience to try it.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-04-15 18:05 [#02194774]
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Do you like Robert Anton Wilson et al?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-04-15 18:54 [#02194803]
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For guys who like lilly, wilson, mckenna - hell, even castaneda - this film is quite interesting, but it joins the dubious rank of Communion and Close Encounters for making its subject matter appear ridiculous by way of dramatic license. Still, I would recommend it.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2008-04-15 18:58 [#02194806]
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terrence mckenna, john lilly and robert anton wilson are all dead.
who's here to pick up the torch?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-04-15 21:36 [#02194861]
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i will see brainstorm soon. thanks for the reccomendation
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-04-16 00:19 [#02194895]
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i will pick up the torch, but i need a better psychedelic drug supply to do it properly. where can i buy 'research chemicals' online now adays? japan?
marlowe: re: Robert Anton Wilson i actually havent checked out any of his stuff, and the reason being i was told to avoid it because i had a stint in a mental hospital once and when i described my experience to people at least 2 of them said 'wow that sounds exactly like the illuminatis trilogy' and because of that i have been scared to read it in fear of having some kind of psychological relapse
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-04-16 01:11 [#02194902]
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This is one of my favorite films. My dad had me hooked on in since I was 5, way before I could even understand what was going on.
Awhile ago I made a music video to it. clicky
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-04-16 02:58 [#02194913]
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i like how in the movie its an unspecified drug. they imply thew brew might be partially amanita muscaria, but nothing is confirmed.
someone needs to make an actual biopic about john lily's life. altered states is very loosely based on him. but the actual man had a very interesting life, was one of the first people to try and study dolphin human communication. He started trying to communicate with dolphins while in an isolation tank thinking this would put him on a more equal state with them. At the time he was also experimenting with psychedelics in conjunction with these studies, sometimes simoltaneously (tank + lsd + trying to talk to dolphins). It's hard to tell at one point he went off the deep end, because even his early work is very far out. later in his life he became interested in Ketamine and became a full blown addict, rarely interviewed or seen in public life while not being nder the influence of it. he had a lot of celeb friends and even once addressed the United Nations
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-04-16 03:45 [#02194924]
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On this day in 1943 – Swiss chemist Albert Hofmann discovered the psychedelic effects of the semi-synthetic drug LSD.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-04-16 04:00 [#02194925]
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yea, it's a fine line between ill-umination and mental ill-ness.
the current state of psychology and psychiatry is very crude, the same as it is with dentistry, that's why experiences with both can be humiliating and painful but still, at best, helpful.
actually cosmic trigger could be a better, saner way to start reading Wilson, since it's non-fiction and autobiographical.
marlowe: Hofmann, incidentally, is 102 and living well.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-04-16 04:33 [#02194929]
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I love his Cosmis Trigger books... you don't really need to read the Illuminatus! Trilogy or the Schrodinger's Cat Trilogy.
I didn't know Hofmann as still alive.. pretty cool :]
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-01-02 09:09 [#02356125]
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watched it last night, it was great. i can't believe i'm finding this stuff like this in my language, VHS rips sometimes! and tonight i'm watching the war of the worlds (orginal version)
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2010-01-02 09:10 [#02356126]
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apologize the repetiotions
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khrimson
from the fridge on 2010-01-02 11:57 [#02356142]
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cool i'm downloading it too, i might watch with the fellas I used to get stoned with
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