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This thread is for pinpointing when a band/artist went from good to suck. Autechre: Anything before they made a crappy remix/mess out of Killing Game by Skinny Puppy = good. Anything after = suck next.... |
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completely disagree... but anyway... im actually finding it really hard to think of an example... i know when my music started to suck... and that was when i went to university to do a degree in music... theory ruined everything, theory is for idiots. |
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radiohead: between amnesiac and hail to the thief when they stopped caring whether their music was innovative or interesting. |
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System of a Down: right after they decided to put a slow song on their first album. It was the top of the slope. A parabolical one (assuming a in a*x^2 is negative) |
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Radiohead: Between track #2 of their 1st album and track #3 of their first album. |
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afx: seconds after druqks when he realised "fuck hell i can do money fucking around" |
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Weezer: all releases after Pinkerton. |
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Pink Floyd: After The Wall / The Final Cut |
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When the term "IDM" was first coined. |
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oasis became shit when the beatles formed |
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haha |
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Paul McCartney. After his first solo album. Maybe Im amazed is the last song he wrote that wasn't corny |
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nirvana: when kurt died. |
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boards of canada - everything after that dead dogs two remix...and including that too. |
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"and including that too. " whaaaaaaa??? |
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What do you think of temporary secratary? |
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to be honest, i don't know it, although i have just started a (completely bs) class on the beatles, which encompases more than just their studio recordings and singles, so i have no doubt i will be exposed to mccartney's later works in the coming weeks. |
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I'm sure I said, 'What do you think of temporary secratary?" spelt wrong. I didn't ask for your life story. |
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oh sorry, is this better: dunno it. |
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Haha! yes it is! It made me chuckle. |
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I only know it because you sent it to me and whilst it intrigued me I can't seperate "The Music of Paul McCartney" from "The burst mattress fanny face of Paul McCartney", that and that a friend of mine from school who genuinley liked Wings more than The Beatles (a la Alan Partrdige) both drove me to a nervous breakdown and married my ex-girlfriend. I fucking hate Paul McFuckingCartney. Sorry for the life story. |
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i agree on the radiohead comment (definitely not marlowes). i still dont mind them after amnesiac, they did lose a certain quality.. or something. there have been a fair few albums by luke vibert that really haven't done a whole lot for me. though i guess he still has his moments.. |
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there should be a 'though' or a 'but' some where after me saying i don't mind their stuff after amnesiac.. |
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Gary Numan from 1982 onwards. Before that, 5 classic albums. |
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FSOL - When they decided they wanted to be Pink Floyd. BOC - When they finally came out of the hippy closet. DJ Shadow - When he tried to make music himself. |
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I forgot Metallica - Justice For All, some good a lot of suck but the begining of the end, for sure. |
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I just got the new Mike Oldfield album, which is predictably atrocious. I liked the first four - what happened? Seems like once his panic attacks and crippling depression piddled away his ability to make music that isn't so safe it's sickening pissed into the void too. |
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fuck off, Flaming Pie is great! anyway: modest mouse - when they released good news and self-admittedly "sold out". |
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Things really went wrong for Tim Buckley immediately after Greetings from LA. A double whammy of bad music and death. |
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Oh yeah, i forgot he wrote that. It's from the fifth or sixth album, isn't it? Either the flying one or 'Crises'. |
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You love it!!! Is your real name Dave Angel? |
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I agree that autechre mix of killing game isnt that great, but they openly admitted it wasn't their favorite track so they should have done something else. I would like to hear ae remix some of the noise beat stuff on VivisectVI that might be more up their alley. That remix album came out in 98 though, so you think LP5 was the last good thing they did? |
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Yes |
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LP5 is a great album but I like weird deconstructionist experimental shit as much as I like psychadellic electro so I like all of it :P |
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Speaking of Skinny Puppy though The Process was ok but they never really got back in touch with what made them so good before that, even after a 10 yr hiatus. The new stuff has tracks/parts here or there but, are they really just making sure they have a nest egg for retirement? I usually call albums like that Metallica Black or The Godfather III |
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could you elaborate a bit on this? as it is i dont know theory, do everything by ear and im pretty happy with that but i was thinking theory would make me learn a lot if i apply for school next year.. |
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I think he means that when you learn theory it takes the happy accidents occur less often, or, it just generally makes it less fun overall. |
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agree completely, but i do think in rainbows is an improvement/step back in the right direction. radiohead to me is a hill with a giant cliff. everything before ok computer is the cliff, ok computer is the cliff, kid a amnesiac are the back end of the cliff and then your heading back down the hill. i'd like to mix it up and say the simpsons went wrong during season 8. although a very strong season overall you could see it deteriorating in certain episodes (i.e. homer's phobia) a lot of people say the simpsons sucked after maude died, but i think it's way before that. |
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Skinny Puppy took a very different path once they parted company with Dave Ogilvie, I wasn't keen on The Process or Mythmaker but I really liked Greater Wrong of the Right. |
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it's always been going more wrong with every day that passes. there are however, occasional golden moments of progress that keep us listening. maybe it went wrong when edison or whoever it was started recording sound. or when hmv or whoever first sold those recordings. it goes more wrong with every technological advancement, but with each technological advancement there is a brief glimpse of the pinnacle of achievement (in one respect at least) when internet/laptops/email/mp3's became proper everywhere? nowhere near as many good live drummers or bass players as there were in the 70's when digital synths exploded after analog? when the criminal justice act came in and when the congestion charge came in when everyone stopped publically celebrating the phases of the sun and moon and tides and seasons ? |
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just after jungle became drum and bass? or just after hardcore uk hip hop became hardcore breakbeat? computer screens? when people strayed away from weed and mushrooms and acid in favor of E and coke when ford brought out the scorpio if someone would make up a name for these years, the "00's" and the "10's" or "teens"things would get better, as it is we will have to wait ages till we see a repeat of last century's "roaring 20's", westerners have no era to identify with at the moment apart from negativity |
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britney spears; when she cut her hair |
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Black music, while having some high points since the 80's has gone to shit since the 70's. Yes, there was Detroit techno, some good rap, thriller, but none of these things can compare to the sublime soul music from the 70's back. |
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Elton Jon after 1980. Some will give me shit for liking anything he did, but Rocket man, tiny dancer, Levon where good songs. Absolutely everything he has done since 1980 has been terrible |
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Prince, since he did the batman sound track and decided he hates drum machines. |
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Na I think radiohead took a step forward by taking a step back with in rainbows. ok computer and even the bends had some solid song writing on them, poppy and alterna-brit pop as they were. Then from kid a up to hail to the theif the song writing had to share the spotlight with their new focus of experimental sounds, fx, programming & electronics. The song writing became more avant garde too (which pissed off a lot of their blur loving brit pop fans) and they started blending weird styles, and just basically got more experimental. That stuff is great and they are about as revolutionary as the beatles for doing it BUT I do not think they are as good at doing the experimental and electronic stuff as someone who has been doing it their entire career. Those albums always kinda felt like they were trying it out. I don't know if that makes sense or not. I do, however think they are very good at writing strikingly beautiful, sometimes melancholy sometimes poppy or punky rock music, and when the experimental/electronic elements are just peppered in and the ratios are right the music is certainly their strongest... IMO |
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what about com lag? |
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David Bowie. Since he did Let's DAnce |
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please watch the end of this ahahahahahahahahaaaha |
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