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offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-03-31 16:42 [#02190093]
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artist on kompakt

sounds great

any1 a fan?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2008-03-31 16:43 [#02190094]
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gets kinda dull after one listen.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2008-03-31 16:56 [#02190100]
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i liked the sound, its not somethings that sticks or strikes
me as great.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-03-31 17:04 [#02190101]
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As cunty as it sounds: Too "easy"; reminds me of the stuff I
used to make when I was fourteen. In other words, it's not
quality.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-03-31 17:31 [#02190104]
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i friend to like the field - people were raving about it
when the last album came out - but i just couldn't get into
it.


 

offline Advocate on 2008-03-31 17:35 [#02190107]
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I wouldn't call myself a fan, but some of the tracks on
'From Here We Go Sublime' are amazing.

Drunken Mastah: A lot of people disagree with you. 'From
Here...' was the most universally acclaimed album of 2007.
lazy_metacritic I think you're being a bit bombastic when you
say "it's not quality". Sure, you can hate this music all
you want, but calling it without quality is truly "too
easy".


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-03-31 18:14 [#02190114]
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I'm a fan. Really trippy repetition. I hear all sorts of
imaginary music when I listen, that's hinted at but not
actually there. It's like musical daydreaming. The songs
seem to hover at the crescendo indefinitely.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-03-31 20:32 [#02190170]
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gets kinda dull after one listen.

During, even.


 

offline MADESTMAX from Germany on 2008-04-01 00:48 [#02190198]
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I got "From Here We Go Sublime" and I must say that this is
music, that you can get high from listening to. My favorite
tracks are "Over The Ice", "Good Things End" and "The Deal".
The repetition is trippy and I love it.


 

offline oyvinto on 2008-04-01 01:51 [#02190201]
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i've been listening to 'From Here We Go Sublime' a bit.
sounds a little too french or something.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2008-04-01 03:43 [#02190220]
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sexy and sweet, could listen to this shit everyday. his
newest ep also its the spot.


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-04-01 05:24 [#02190226]
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YES.


 

offline Barf Simpleton from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-04-01 08:03 [#02190242]
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i got bored even before 1 listen : (


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 08:38 [#02190252]
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Hahahah, if that's for real, I should release all the stuff
I made when I was 14, and then I could make lots of money!
If it's "quality" to be able to slap stuff together in
MadTracker and then copy/paste the same pattern for six
minutes, only adding one element each four repetitions,
then, sure, it's quality, but then almost every single
14-year old who manages to do the same becomes quality,
effectively making the phrase meaningless, don't you think?


 

offline Barf Simpleton from the outback (Zimbabwe) on 2008-04-01 08:47 [#02190259]
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what they mean is its mediocre and inoffensive enough not to
make people either REALLY LIKE IT or REALLY NOT LIKE IT AT
ALL . although i didnt really like it. at all. : D


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-04-01 08:55 [#02190264]
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I don't think I've heard it but this thread makes me want to
like it really hard.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-01 09:27 [#02190286]
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It sounds like new car smell.


 

offline Advocate on 2008-04-01 09:35 [#02190290]
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I sure would like to see you release the music you made when
you were 14, and make lots of money. Untill you do, maybe a
less arrogant stance would suit you better?

I guess you don't like minimal and repetetive techno, then,
and that's alright. This music is not for everyone, and I
respect your opinion to hate it. I see no point in
discussing this any further, as it is unlikely we will agree
with each other :)


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2008-04-01 09:37 [#02190292]
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i think the album is very good. if you think it is very
good, then you will like it too.

can't like everything.





 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-04-01 10:43 [#02190315]
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for once, I agree with metacritic: it was my favourite album
of 2007


 

offline jackeroffer from Aruba on 2008-04-01 10:49 [#02190322]
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". 'From
Here...' was the most universally acclaimed album of 2007.
lazy_metacritic"

so yes using the same logic the movie Crash was fucking
quality as fuck, we should all trust very larger review
outlets and hold them in higher regard than any normal
person's opinion.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2008-04-01 10:54 [#02190326]
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what's a normal person?


 

offline epic chod on 2008-04-01 10:59 [#02190329]
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critic class needs updating, in b1.1 it dosent do that,
answer is null


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 13:44 [#02190428]
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This album being released is equivalent to that, except for
another guy making the money. I have never had any
aspirations towards releasing my music, and I also believe
doing it "for a living" would kind of ruin it for me (I
may go as far as making music for movies, as that
won't really be as much "my music," as it will be "the
movie's" music (the movie dictates what I make for it)), but
if that stuff up there can make it, so could 14-year-old
me.

Also, I never said anything to indicate I hate it, did I? I
don't hate it, but I dislike it. I'm also saying that it
isn't quality. Being fortunate enough to hit whatever market
this hit at the right point in time doesn't grant you some
kind of seal of quality, nor does the usual throng of "hip
hypers" giving it the thumbs up.

Bottom line is, regardless of how it was actually made, this
music is equivalent to that of a 14-year old boy with a
knack for copy/paste. This doesn't mean you can't like it,
or that I hate it, but it means that it isn't quality.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2008-04-01 13:51 [#02190430]
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i think it's weird how people can draw complicated arguments
to prove taste judgments


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-04-01 13:53 [#02190431]
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Why do you hold 14-year-old boys in such contempt?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 13:54 [#02190432]
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The question of quality is not one of taste.


 

offline jkd from Twitch City (Canada) on 2008-04-01 13:58 [#02190434]
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If anyone can make tracks like The Field please post them.
Seriously. Personally I find making minimal tracks that are
interesting very difficult (a tricky balancing act).


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-04-01 14:03 [#02190436]
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i couldve played for england at footballl but i really didnt
want to. i had a trial when i was 14 and i was better than
everyone else but i turned it down because i wanted to spead
my narccisitic arrogance to the rest of the world instead.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2008-04-01 14:10 [#02190439]
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sure it is. if you don't like bananas, what's the
likelihood you'll encounter a quality banana?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 14:15 [#02190440]
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Even if I don't like bananas, I can recognise one that is of
good quality, and it is possible to set down a set of
criteria for determining what is a good quality and what is
a bad quality banana. A good quality banana would probably
not be brown, undernourished or full of worms, for instance.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 14:16 [#02190441]
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I'm sorry, but I don't even have the computer I made them on
any more.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-01 14:39 [#02190445]
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What are the objective criteria for determining whether or
not a piece of music is good quality?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 14:54 [#02190451]
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I don't know, but they do not include "having been made by
me, age 14."


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2008-04-01 15:05 [#02190454]
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poor answer.


 

offline big from lsg on 2008-04-01 15:09 [#02190456]
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beats could be harder i spose, still nice


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2008-04-01 16:19 [#02190495]
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Yet thus far it is the best.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2008-04-01 17:24 [#02190508]
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Quality is a consensus, you motherfucker, it can't apply to
art.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-01 20:42 [#02190534]
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That's not only a subjective criterion but an idiosyncratic
one. You're doing exactly what Nietzsche accuses
philosophers of doing - garbing gut level prejudice in the
raiment of universality.

Isn't it more honest to say "this music makes me shit" than
to pretend that it falls short of some ideal set of criteria
which you can't even articulate?

Music criticism should be recognized as a form of poetry.


 

offline OK on 2008-04-01 21:35 [#02190545]
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this album was very well received by the general critic. so
any argument like drunken's is void of substance.

myself, i really don't see what all the fuss is about, I
find the pieces too similar and even somewhat predictable
and formulaic, they do sound nice, but sounding nice is not
enough to gain my admiration. I recognize the process by
which the music was made and I respect that, but i don't see
that it's big a deal.

I just can't enjoy it THAT much either from an intellectual
or aestethic point of view. it doesn't suck tho.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-04-01 21:39 [#02190547]
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rm pirsig is currently revolving in his grave at the speed
of light


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-04-01 21:55 [#02190548]
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I can't listen to the samples now but the descriptions in
this thread have piqued my interest. Will check them out
when I have the chance.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-01 21:55 [#02190549]
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He's probably a wee bit upset at being buried alive.


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-04-01 21:58 [#02190550]
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The objective criteria to which a piece of music must meet
in order to aquire Quality Status is:

8% Innovation
11% A Good Beat
6% Melody
8% Bassline
3% Packaging
6% Capacity to "weird out" most people over 25
1% Poorly designed MySpace page
2% Heavy Weight vinyl
3% Would sound good in a mix
1% Conjures images of fighting Mecha Droids
50% Irksome to Drunken Mastah


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2008-04-01 22:00 [#02190551]
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that's only 99% there..how can anything under 140% be of
quality is beyond me


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2008-04-01 22:04 [#02190552]
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Fuck, I'm glad I'm not the only compulsive nerd who noticed
the missing 1%.


 

offline SlipDrinkMats from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-04-01 22:05 [#02190553]
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The missing 1% is a closely guarded secret, otherwise we'd
all be making quality tracks to formula.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2008-04-01 22:08 [#02190555]
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HAHA


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-04-01 22:47 [#02190565]
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relaxing music.


 

offline Resident Evil from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2008-04-01 22:56 [#02190569]
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I like The Deal.


 


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