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The majority of movies are pretty boring and uninspiring. Generally you know the outcome of any film in the first five minutes. The premise is set, the rules have been laid out, and all in all, it's rather dull. It doesn't matter how much money they put into it, nor how much over-the-top it gets, since they're working with the same damn frame-of-reference e.v.e.r.y.t.i.m.e. __________________ Kim Ki-Duk is the antithesis to predictable movie-experiences. "3-Iron" and "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring" both work on its own premises, they have a "presence". What other directors do you find make truly great movies? Not "great" as in "it's allright", or "awesome", or "it's worth your time", nor does it have to be "life-changing" (isn't the films that is supposed to be "philosophical" utterly stereotypical?), but simply a genuine experience, like good literature, a breath of fresh air. (and of course, if you've enjoyed anything by Kim Ki-Duk, it'd be interesting to hear, as well.) |
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I'd put Mamoru Oshii here, as well. Everyone has seen "Ghost in the Shell", and some has seen "GITS: Innocence", and everyone know they're philosophical and all that, cybernetics, and cyborgs, and what have you ..., but I find GITS simply beautiful. The "philosophy" is secondary, it's all about atmosphere. There is a short clip at the end of GITS when rain drops off the machine-tank at the museum, that small clip is pure genius. Truly it's impossible to put it in words. Patlabor 1, and 2 are outstanding works as well (GITS: Innocence is "allright"). |
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Yeah, Ki-Duk is great. I've seen a couple of his movies. I really really enjoyed "The Bow". It might seem corny, but i really like John Carpenter. Some of his movies just strike a nerve with me. Especially "in the mouth of madness". Also, Takeshi Kitano. My favourites from him, are "Hana-bi" (I think it's also known as fireworks) and "Kikujiro" David Lynch is a given, so i wont even bother mentioning him. |
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Yes, "Hana Bi" and "Kikujiro" are brilliant. I haven't seen "The Bow", yet. |
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I'd put Hayao Miyazaki here as well. Mononoke Hime and Tonari no Totoro are beautiful. Everybody knows of Totoro, and find him "cute", and Princess Mononoke is "japanese" and "mysterious", and "shintoistic", and all that, but the passion and devotion in these works, simply for the sake of the movies in themselves (Miyazaki actually believed that Mononoke Hime would be the end of Studio Ghibli) are noteworthy. Roy Andersson deserves a place on the list, as well. Quite frankly, I find him the only swedish director that actually MAKES movies, instead of mere entertainment. When a movie is supposed to be a "movie", when a joke's supposed to be a "joke", it's born dead. When someone decides to go for a walk, just for the sake of walking, he/she doesn't care of making a schedule, but walks for the sake of walking. Imagine walking in a certain way, because that's how someone's "suppose" to walk! Why should a movie be different? A genre-flick is a definiton of anti-spontaneity, purely robotic. |
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all those mentioned above - plus, to continue the surprising Nippon theme, I would add Katsuhito Ishii and Hideaki Anno. |
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Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring is just awesome didn't see others |
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didn't see Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring rest are shit |
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lol watch it! makes you willing to become a monk and kill your girlfriend perfecto! |
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He's worthless, sorry Check otu Stallone, he's a promising young newcomer. |
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otu stalleno is also great |
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yes all of these mentioned are fine film makers and have contributed a great deal to the art of cinema and no doubt have strongly influenced both me as a person (apart from the fact i have never heard of or seen any of their films) and the wider culture around me (which i pay absolutely no attention to whatsoever) . But in saying all this I feel i should mention that it is my strong belief that no one has or will ever come close to matching the cinematic excellence of Micheal Winner the creative genius behind such cinematic landmarks as Death Wish 1, Death Wish 2 and Death Wish 3 to name but three of his greatest contributions to human culture and the pursuit of excellence in modern day civilisation. It can duly be noted that the Death Wish trilogy (as the three films in the series suggests) is a modern masterpiece illustrating 20th century mans cruel battle against the forces of chance, insurmountable evil and a manic, knife weilding Jeff Goldblum. Thrown into this murky melting pot is the peace loving architect Paul Kersey played with understated skill by Chaz "Charlie" Charles Bronson a man who seems to be on the verge of waking from a seemingly perpetual coma but never quite managing it. In short Micheal Winner has created a mythical hero for the ages in the great vein of such heroic figures of literature as Hercules, Thor, Napoleon and Mister T. In doing so, Micheal Winner has Illuminated man's eternal struggle both with himself and his surrounding and the external forces of chance and chaos that both shape and destroy him simultaneously, symbolically portrayed by a short, moustachioed jewish man with a gun who kills bad guys and is seemingly barely awake or concious of his own actions. Thankyou. |
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AphexAcid -- "Kaze no tani no Naushika" shows Miyazaki's furious optimism in top form. These filmmakers are inspiring in a kick to the gut sorta way: MICHAEL HANEKE The Seventh Continent Benny's Video The Piano Teacher JOHN CASSAVETES A Woman Under The Influence Opening Night ANDREI TARKOVSKY Zerkalo |
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To wimp: I've considered buying myself a copy of Naushika for a long time. My dvd-collection is rather limited, but I've decieded to at least get a complete Ghibli-collection. What's your opinion on other works by Andrei Tarkovsky? I enjoyed "Andrei Rublev: The Passion According to Andrei", but I'm not to sure of "Stalker". Sure, it's beautiful and haunting, but ... nah. ________________ not necessarily to wimp: Checking out the imdb-forum on "Stalker" (or other "complicated" movies) you (anyone) always find comments, such as: "you don't like it, because you don't 'understand' it". This seems to be the usual surmise, that the enjoyment of anything depends on our understanding of it, or it's just some thing people blurt out for just the sake of it. But this obsession with 'understanding' movies, I find, is quite naive. I 'understand' Teletubbies (what there is to understand, anyway), but it doesn't make me enjoy it more. Rather it has to do with 'appreciating' it; whatever understanding there is, is always secondary. It seems to me that this holds true with stuff like IDM, and Braindance, as well. I mean, who care if you (anyone) understands IDM? Whatever could that mean anyway? I don't 'understand' "Ziggomatic 17" anymore than my cat does, but I sure do appreciate it a heck lot more, than he does ... |
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I like 3 Iron a lot. there are many many great directors, you just have to find them. |
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It's a shame, though, there is such a lack of dedication in alot of expensive films. With all the money that's being spent, with such mediocre (sometimes) results ... it's truly a shame. Fantastic Four is a good example. Lot's of money, but no substance at all. It doesn't have to be deep, or anything like that either. Ah, well, I'm rambling. :) |
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Alls his movies are great, but especially Rebels of the Neon God, Vive l'Amour, What Time is it There and The Wayward Cloud. Other contemporary directors I like are Bela Tarr and Chang Dong-lee. |
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Also check out Iranian cinema. Good examples are The House Is Black by Forugh Farrokhzad, Close Up by Abbas Kiarostami, A Moment of Innocence by Mohsen Makhmalbaf and (less heavy) Children of Heaven by Majid Majidi. Of course also a lot of good movies were made from the twenties to the sixties. |
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