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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:03 [#02175368]
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i forgot
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-15 12:05 [#02175369]
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me too
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-15 12:06 [#02175370]
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well in all fairness, we never really did
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-02-15 12:10 [#02175371]
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play with some voice correcting software
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-15 12:12 [#02175374]
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We know, dear.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:12 [#02175375]
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i wonder if i was ever good at making music or if i just got lucky a whole bunch and just ran w/ it? do u ever think that? i have all this dope gear and its fun to make tracks but when its over its like, that was terrible
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-02-15 12:18 [#02175377]
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You are your own worst critic, which is far better than when an artist becomes obsessed by whatever they are working on and can't step back and view their stuff from the perspective of a first time listen.
Attempt a cover version just to see how someone else has composed and then try a track in their style.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:19 [#02175378]
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i would rather be honest with myself and say that i love sound more than i like actual music, cause, tons of times ill just bang a sound out a million times and smile really big without ever really making a track, and, then ill feel like i have to throw it in a track, and its like, well why did i do that, now i am mad
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:20 [#02175379]
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well music - i love, but, i think im better at making "events"?>???
rather than... scenes?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:21 [#02175380]
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ill try that
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:23 [#02175382]
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i was just doing a jam , i got off school at around 10 and its now 1 so thats what 3 hours? 2 and a half? i editing some parts together and left and came back to listen to it and i was like, this is the stupidest thing hahahahhahahah
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-15 12:25 [#02175384]
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i always enjoy the music i make that i would never ever show anyone way more than the music i do show people. i wonder if that means anything?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 12:27 [#02175386]
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it means that its coming from the heart and its what really moves you - but what is it then when you begin to hate even that? when you feel it during the process then you listen to it and youre stunned that you would even make it
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-15 12:27 [#02175388]
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yeah that happens so much that i too wonder why i even bother.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-02-15 12:28 [#02175389]
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do an idm version of "the orange theme"
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-02-15 12:28 [#02175390]
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You should just do what you enjoy and make sounds without feeling the need to arrange them into tracks that sounds like stuff that's been done before.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-02-15 12:29 [#02175392]
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asdf
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-02-15 12:29 [#02175393]
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sounds like u need to take a break, dont force it or it will sound shit.
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-15 12:30 [#02175394]
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at least listening to music is still a joy
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2008-02-15 13:51 [#02175457]
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i had the opposite experience. my music just kept getting better and better. unfortunately i was the only one who thought so.
i think you should try collaborating. you need to find a music person who's good at the music, not so good at the sound design and crunch. or just steal someone else's music, and grind it down until it becomes unrecognizable.
if your field isn't delivering, plow it under i say. then again, if you're having a good time, why complain?
in the interest of full disclosure, i'm not sure if anyone has ever taken my advice.
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freqy
on 2008-02-15 15:00 [#02175482]
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create nice loops....then join loops ....then loop it all around.
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-15 15:10 [#02175486]
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oh cygnus, thanks for sharing such a big personal problem.
no worries though, we all knew you cant make music but just bunch of unartuiculated KSSSHSKS BADUM BASSJKSKAKCKCKCKC on the web once in a while.
besides, no one with attitude of peacock and head like cabbage cant make music anyway.
but seriously - that youtube laptop battle scene shows youre not really about making music anyway man.its just a bunch of sounds trying to be "idm" cool, KABOOM DISH PSH PSH KACKCKCK nothing more, sorry to say that man.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-15 15:37 [#02175494]
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LOL
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big
from lsg on 2008-02-15 15:50 [#02175498]
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do what darius says and have fun
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thatne
from United States on 2008-02-15 15:54 [#02175502]
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sample
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oyvinto
on 2008-02-15 15:58 [#02175503]
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do some (more) drugs
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-02-15 16:01 [#02175505]
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A whole bunch of shut the fuck up.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-15 17:43 [#02175536]
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Hey Cygnus, take that advice from plaidzebra, the guy who... who.. who... no I don't know either.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-02-15 18:59 [#02175559]
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the guy who...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-02-15 19:00 [#02175560]
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sucks pretentious cock?
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cx
from Norway on 2008-02-15 21:36 [#02175573]
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imo following the old techniques that everyones created only leads to repitition of old ideas..
create your own expression and then you will find the passion again..
nobody really knows how to create music, its just a bunch of people agreeing that a technique sounds good..
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Sano
on 2008-02-15 21:41 [#02175574]
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IDM ain't music anyways.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-02-16 01:11 [#02175607]
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just follow what makes you happy.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-16 02:14 [#02175612]
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Get out the Machinedrum.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-16 02:30 [#02175614]
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if all else fails, just add some more bass
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-16 02:36 [#02175618]
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i blame quaristice, btw
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2008-02-16 03:32 [#02175638]
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music is overrated anyway. maybe you could become a dj? (like autechre)
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-16 04:22 [#02175650]
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That's probably the consensus of a few other members too. Most times it all starts with a sound or pattern. It's not really music, more of something that makes you think "this works, let's see what else works with this".
Oddly enough, when I first started making music, back when I was total shit, my tracks sounded more like 'music' than they do now.
My sound is getting more and more contrived, trying to fit in sounds that work to me. Either my ears are maturing to my own creative process or I'm just getting more and more weird with what my ears deem acceptable material.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-02-16 04:51 [#02175662]
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First Tape Ever
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-02-16 04:52 [#02175663]
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1996-97
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K300i
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-16 06:01 [#02175676]
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i cant believe some of you clowns are actually seriously responding to this pile of pretencious shit har har har
\/\/.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-16 06:15 [#02175681]
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cd >> flac !!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-02-16 09:28 [#02175744]
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i'm internet
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-16 10:54 [#02175810]
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i dont understand why u think im being pretentious. do you equate confusion with pretense?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-16 10:55 [#02175811]
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hahaha i know what you mean
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-16 11:19 [#02175825]
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I suppose making an actual finished track rather than some nice sounds does take quite a bit of discipline and effort, even if it's all (normally) fun. Perhaps you need to take a break until you're ready to delve into the more anal job of forming and polishing a complete track. You can muck about making sounds here and there until that moment comes.
Good luck. You're stuff is fine, everyone sometimes goes through this self doubt business...
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-02-18 00:38 [#02176470]
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love and hate are the same fucking thing
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