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offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-24 05:54 [#00138771]
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K...so tonight i was waiting for a bus, and this
strange-looking guy comes up to me smiling and he tells me
this story about needing gas money. i told him i really
didnt have much cash on me, and he wouldnt leave me alone.
i got kind of creeped out, being alone in a poorly-lit
parking lot. I wasn't too crazy about the idea of pulling
out my wallet in front of the guy. Eventually he went away,
luckily.

My question is, what's your opinion on giving money to
panhandlers or people on the street? sometimes i'll give a
dollar or somethin' to some guy who looks to be on the verge
of death, just so he can get some booze, if it'll make him
feel better for a little while at least. I feel sorry for
them sitting there in the freezing cold. I hate the
aggressive panhandlers though.


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-03-24 05:55 [#00138775]
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I dont give them shit. This is the 21st century for
god-sakes get your lazy ass up and get a job!


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-24 05:55 [#00138776]
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sometimes some dudes come up to me and ask me if i got any
crack on me


 

offline Asche XL on 2002-03-24 05:55 [#00138779]
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It's not hard, it really isnt, any idiot can land A job.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-24 05:57 [#00138784]
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good point.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-24 05:59 [#00138789]
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well, if you were a person looking to hire someone for a
specific job, and this guy came in in raggidy old cloths,
and smelled like crap, would you give him the job? I think
not...


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:00 [#00138791]
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The younge ones can. Not so much the old guys. They've
been on the street for so long and becuase they're old there
really isn't a job they can get into. And I guess they've
not received much education so... I don't know. Give them
the gift of music.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-24 06:00 [#00138792]
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yeah, see that's what i think too. and if it's someone like
a blind vietnam vet, then my heartstrings get tugged even
more.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:00 [#00138793]
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The spirit of HMV!!! :-)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:01 [#00138795]
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My mom always gives them fucking twenties! She's nuts. I
think there's like 2 in the whole city, though... I don't
see many of them.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:02 [#00138799]
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20 bucks!!?

HIGH FIDELITY!


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-24 06:03 [#00138803]
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damn. that's a lot more generous than i ever am.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:04 [#00138806]
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Might as well take them out for dinner lol jk :)


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-03-24 06:05 [#00138807]
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theres a shelter in my nearby city for homeless folks. it's
a great idea i think.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:07 [#00138813]
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shelters are nice


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-03-24 06:08 [#00138816]
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Yeah they have one in boston called the pine street inn. i
don't know why more people don't go there, especially in the
winter time.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:08 [#00138817]
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this is a product of capatilism... but hey, what can ya do?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:12 [#00138823]
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This one homeless guy here in Sydney has the right plan...
he hangs out in front of the Bank downtown!!! That must be
one rich poor guy.


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-03-24 06:14 [#00138824]
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lol


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 09:41 [#00138952]
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To ignore them, the key is 'eye contact' - don't even look
at them! Spot them before they spot you....

The's a few in Cardiff city near where I live, and you see
them just sat there with boxes and a pack of dogs. Surely,
you'd think they'd get rid of the dogs...they can't feed the
dogs as well!



 

offline Gonzola from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-24 10:43 [#00138960]
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the dogs are given to them...a way for them to get back into
society.

"This is the 21st century for
god-sakes get your lazy ass up and get a job!"
...c'mon, do you honestly think they WANT to live in
cardboard boxes, begging people for money etc? i'm telling
you, none of them wanted their life to turn out like that...


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 11:04 [#00138964]
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How is society going to sort the problem out though? - most
of the kinda people I see like that are usually drunks!


 

offline Gonzola from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-24 11:12 [#00138970]
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yes, a lot of them are. shouldn't we help them although they
are alcoholix?


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 11:14 [#00138971]
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What can the individual do though?
I fear that if I were to give them cash, they'd only spend
it on alcohol! And I do think a lot of people here might
agree...

I'm not totally heartless towards the situation....its just
that 'I' don't know what we could do!


 

offline Gonzola from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-24 11:38 [#00138978]
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i totally agree...it's not much we can do as individuals.
what i meant by "we" helping them, was the social services
helping them:)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 11:39 [#00138979]
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I don't think social services give a damn about them though
- I think they're thought of in the same light as criminals!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 11:40 [#00138980]
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...well maybe not criminals....but do you see what i mean?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-24 11:41 [#00138981]
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Asche.. you sound like a REAL American.. "our country is
best. There are no problems with jobs or poverty in MY
country.. nooooo! Not at all! It's EASY to get a job. If
people are poor, it's THEIR fualt"

I HATE PEOPLE WHO SAY STUFF LIKE THAT! THEY'RE IN WITH THE
KITTENS I TELL YOU!

*KABOOM* meow


 

offline polar bear from United Kingdom on 2002-03-24 11:43 [#00138982]
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need to give them something to take away their feeling of
helplessness and give reponsibility,


 

offline polar bear from United Kingdom on 2002-03-24 11:44 [#00138984]
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actually having hostels where they can drink, (within
reason) is a step forward. and no i don't give money, that's
what charities are for


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2002-03-24 11:45 [#00138986]
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discuss with him, herlp him find a job he likes and will
follow... it's not easy to help hem but noone wants to help
them out..., imagine if it was one of your friends, you'd
give him all your help no? give him clothes, a bath so he
can present to get jobs...


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 11:48 [#00138991]
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It is not allways there fault!!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2002-03-24 11:50 [#00138993]
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un america, it's NEVER their fault. america's fucked up!

*KABOOM* meow


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-03-24 12:37 [#00139018]
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I took a picture of me standing really jolly beside this
homeless guy in rome, and i might just post it here if it
turns out good.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:13 [#00139078]
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Why do you do that?


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-03-24 14:16 [#00139080]
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its hard for me to earn money, so i usually don't give it
out.



 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-24 14:17 [#00139084]
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The only thing I ever used to give out, if they asked
nicely, was cigarettes

I stopped doing that as well, cause the way Swansea's going
I'll be supporting the whole fucking place in five years


 

offline TrevorGod from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-24 14:20 [#00139087]
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A lot of homeless peole are mentaly ill (about 75%). Is
that really a reason for them to have to live and die on a
sidewalk? They deserve the same treatment as anyone else
with a disease. Does anybody relly think someone woke up
and said to themselves "Ya know...I think I'm gona start
acting crazy so that I can be fired from my job. That way I
can live on the streets begging for money. Yeah that's the
life for me"


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-24 14:22 [#00139090]
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Think thats bad jarworski, try going to cambridge. There are
a lot of homeless there. Really can make you despressed when
they look close to death.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:23 [#00139093]
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But the likes of us, cannot change things though can we?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-24 14:25 [#00139095]
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Does it start from the bottom, up to the top, or down from
the top to the bottom?


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:27 [#00139097]
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On the other hand, do the think the rich have simply too
much money?


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:29 [#00139100]
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I think society is most definately, down from the top to the
bottom! Its the people at the top in government that decide
on expediture/taxes and so forth...


 

offline TrevorGod from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-24 14:30 [#00139102]
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It's the people on the bottom who decide who goes to the
top.


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-24 14:30 [#00139103]
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I'd say its more corporations who pull the strings with
'donations'.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:32 [#00139107]
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I don't blame or begrudge anyone for becoming successful in
what they do, but you see so much waste being spent on the
wrong kinds of things by governments...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-24 14:37 [#00139112]
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statistics say 20-25% of the population runs the risk of
becoming homeless, one way or another.

i always used to give them some money, especially when they
tell me the stories of their lives when i was waiting for
the bus.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:42 [#00139118]
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Does it not cross your mind that they may telling you these
stories to take advantage of you, so that you'd feel sorry
for them, and then hand over some cash??


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-03-24 14:45 [#00139125]
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of course!! that doesn't make these stories uninteresting.
it's like watching a movie. makes your wait more pleasant.
:)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2002-03-24 14:54 [#00139144]
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Yes I suppose you are right.....when you are talking to
someone, it does make the time pass quicker!


 


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