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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2008-01-18 23:55 [#02165015]
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10/10 amazing. well executed. go see it
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 00:25 [#02165022]
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i kinda enjoyed it. but i regret seeing it at the cinema. maybe i was sitting too close but it made me and all my friends feel ill. action movie where the person whos filming is getting involved in lots of movement just doesnt look good on the big screen :S
another thing is.. high budget monster movie trying to add realism = awesome monster movie trying to add realism by filming entire movie on handheld camera = also, awesome idea
watching a supposedly handheld recorded video.. on a giant big screen cinema, just totally takes away from the point of the movie.
i dunno. i wanted to enjoy it but i kinda hated it. 5/10
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-19 00:34 [#02165023]
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I loved the idea of doing the movie Blair Witch-style, but I just didn't like how such a large portion of the movie consisted of the camera looking at the ground, or at peoples' legs, or at something other than the 50-story-tall monster that's plainly in view. Or, it would be in view if they would point the damn camera at it. Maybe it's just me, but I also felt like the movie never really developed the monster/creature beyond the fact that it wanted to eat people. I guess it doesn't need any more motivation than hunger to attack NYC, but I left the theatre without any clue as to where the thing had come from. Aside from that, my only gripe with the movie was that the helicopter scene was so pathetically cliched and unrealistic. The special effects were pretty well done, though, and the acting wasn't terrible.
It wasn't a bad movie, but I'm still on the fence about my rating. I'm not quite sure what to give it yet.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 00:42 [#02165025]
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yah, i agree with this. except! i didn't really have a problem with the monster. noone knows where it came from/why he's there and destroying the city. all they know is that there's a monster and it's there and destroying the city.
i was happy they kept it with this amount of knowledge.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-19 00:47 [#02165026]
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oh, yeah sorry I should have explained what I meant more clearly. I'm cool with everyone not knowing what the hell is going on for 99% of the movie, but it would have been nice to have a "news report" from a year or two after the attack come on at the very end of the movie and fill in some of the details. I'm not saying everything needs to be described in 100% scientific detail, but it would have been cool to get an insight into the state of the world a few years after the attack, or something to that effect.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 00:52 [#02165029]
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im guessing everyone died ^^ the end of the movie has some static intermission or something, apperantly says 'its still alive'.
that's most likely there to leave the doors open for a sequal (definite probs!).
if there is no sequal, then yes, i'm afraid the only conclusion is that IT KILLED EVERYONE!!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-19 00:55 [#02165030]
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Well, I highly doubt it would be able to kill everyone, unless they never used nuclear weapons against it, or if it's somehow impervious to the effects of a nuclear blast.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 01:34 [#02165031]
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maybe if the sequal involved humans making their own godzilla style beast, and it had tusken raider's riding on it's back. and there was some epic monster fight. i would happily watch that for about an hour and a half.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 01:37 [#02165032]
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imagines the greatest movie never made..
actually, the idea for a rambo sequel someone posted about is probably the greatest movie never made..
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-19 01:44 [#02165033]
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I cried at the end
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 02:20 [#02165036]
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i watched the elephant man last night. i almost cried at the end.. OF BOREDOM. oh snap.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-19 02:58 [#02165041]
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I must say that I'm glad I saw this movie in the theatres, because it needs to be ridiculously loud and viewed on a large screen to really be substantial. I think watching it on a small tv with crappy sound and average volume levels would make the flaws of the movie more obvious. If my first time seeing it was at my house instead of the movie theatre, I probably would have hated it outright.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-19 03:27 [#02165042]
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hmm. yeah. i just cant tell anymore :S i also saw transformers at the cinemas. now that was a shit a movie, but on the big screen with louds noises and all, it was enjoyable.
there is NO CHANCE i'd ever watch that shit on dvd.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-01-19 15:02 [#02165304]
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my thoughts exactly, haven't seen it yet though.
Nice avatar. great job!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2008-01-19 16:04 [#02165316]
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Interesting. Shit i need to see this movie. (opens torrent sites) Did you see my original Cloverfield topic when the first trailer surfaced? I was all hyped up back then. I have been amused by all the fan hype crazines on the internet since then . Its like "if you drink a bottle of ketchup and wear 3D goggles you can spot the monster at 02:37 in the trailer" and " use this code to unlock secrets about the movie at this adress blah blah...." and people just sucked it in. Its funny to me that this movie succeded in creating similar promotional hype as "blair witch" when using the same basic movie concept.
Anyways , to me this shit looks very good on paper (me and raimons have had the same idea for years) .But i guess i will be just as dissapointed as you guys in the end ."BURN HOLLYWOOD BURN!!"
But when you say everybody dies at the end joy fills my heart cause i was like chearing for the aliens in Independent Day and other ridicilously high budget B movies.
I will post my thoughts on the movie here later.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2008-01-21 09:40 [#02165945]
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i saw the monster on you tube... it's pretty nice
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-21 09:41 [#02165947]
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haha, ab-so-Lutely.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-21 15:47 [#02166101]
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I only just heard of this film today, going to see it as soon as its released over hear though, trailer looks great, hope they don't show too much of the monster though...
JJ Abrams better hurry up with that Dark Tower movie though! I think he's got the talent to do a really good adaption, now if only they could find a way to make Clint Eastwood look 25 years younger...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-21 15:56 [#02166104]
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wait... you hope they don't show the monster?
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-01-21 19:17 [#02166131]
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it's the whole, the less you see the scarier it is. let your mind play tricks on you and make up your own monster, as opposed to some cgi awkward bug thing with a throbbing pouch on its head :S
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-01-21 20:54 [#02166148]
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Hmm, I didn't like it at all. It's not the camera style I have a problem with (I loved Blair Witch), it just has really crappy one dimensional characters with lame motives-- it's not scary at all if you don't care if anyone lives or dies. 2/5 for me
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-22 12:43 [#02166345]
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exactly!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-22 12:47 [#02166349]
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yeah, but, it's a big budget hollywood flick not an art film. they have to show the monster eventually or people will begin shitting multiple bricks.
though, I understand what you're saying, and I actually have to agree because when they first showed the creature passing overhead in downtown manhattan, I thought it looked quite different from when they showed it at the end. I was kind of confused by that, and almost preferred how I had initially "seen" it.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-22 13:00 [#02166353]
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Do Americans actually say 'dude' as much as the people in this film?
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-01-22 14:34 [#02166404]
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over 30 mins of the film is just a sap with a camera running around shouting "Rob!"
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-22 15:55 [#02166430]
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I think some do.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2008-01-22 16:07 [#02166431]
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Yep some of them actualy do. I knew one who said dude and different variations of fuck or motherfucker a minimum of like 200 times per day.
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rad smiles
on 2008-01-22 16:20 [#02166433]
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thats what we call a badass
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2008-01-22 19:39 [#02166498]
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Its true. I'd say 25 % of the youths in this area say dude fuck and motherfucker or mutherfuck it dude that many times...
its on the decline thank god.
I like how the orgin story was contained in one 12second clip at the end.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-22 19:52 [#02166500]
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dude is a very contagious word.
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rad smiles
on 2008-01-22 19:56 [#02166506]
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ooh scary
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-01-23 00:13 [#02166584]
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just watched it tonight at a friends house - downloaded a cam recording.
totally enjoyed it, im almost glad i saw it in a format where i had even less of an idea what was going on due to shoddy image quality and the like.
and yeah, the characters were 2 dimensional, but i didn't really need to care for them - i was in it for the spectacle. i feel like it succeeded quite well at the task the film set out to achieve.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-01-23 00:25 [#02166586]
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you watched a cam recording of a cam recording!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-01-23 01:07 [#02166590]
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when we started watching it was difficult to tell if the camera movements were by the buy in the theater or that cameraman from the film :P
honstely, i dont think that much fidelity was lost :P
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-23 01:17 [#02166591]
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Just listen for someone eating popcorn
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-01-23 01:32 [#02166592]
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there were a few well placed seat creaks are well as a few people who went to get candy a bit late walking in front of the camera through the first 10 minutes.
always elicits a chuckle tho - you gotta know what youre getting into.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-02 06:14 [#02170780]
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I saw this lastnight at the cinema. I'm not really into films and haven't been to the cinema for about 3 years maybe due to lack of interest in modern films. So here is my review:
I would like to say that I really enjoyed Cloverfield. It did require me to accept a few odd ideas, like someone would document everything instead of just dump the camera or at least turn it off.
There may be spoilers ahead!
I got annoyed that the audio didn't distort when they were filming a few feet from a tank firing its main gun. Again, the car windows would smash due to the shockwave. There were a few moments like this were the illusion was shattered for me at least. I suspect most cinema goers are so brain dead from hollywood effects and general tosh they were fine with it.
There was, however a distinct lack of pathetic action film ideas. Apart from the party at the start, there was no music. only sound effects to add to the atmosphere.
Infact I detached from the film a few times during its length and thought how it reminded me of playing the original half life.
I would say that it is more like watching someone play a computer game than watching a hollywood film. (This is 100% a compliment)
Watching this as a brit, I was prepared to believe that those idiotic New Yorkers were prepared to head towards the massive monster to rescue their friend. Most people would leg it, but not these fine young folks from "the home of the brave". So brave, they discarded a crow bar instead relying on their (lack of) kung fu prowess. (ffs haven't they played half life?!?!)
I'm not sure what to make of the monster. It seemed to evolve throughout the film. In my mind in the first half I imagined something different to what I saw. Then later on it appeared to be different again.
I enjoyed the fact that a lot of good looking young people died. This made it much more realistic. Yeah shit happens and you die. Not like other action films. Thank goodness for this decision.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-02 06:22 [#02170785]
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I like the way it avoids standard hollywood cliches and ideas.
The comic relief of the cameraman is great and really added to the reality of the film. If you can suspend your disbelief much less than other films, you should have a great time.
Just like AFX music has a sort of distinct "sound", so this has a distinct "look"; the look of JJ Abrams. If you've enjoyed Lost or Alias, you will love this film. Don't expect to leave with any mysteries solved. Expect to be entertained.
Reviewers that claim it can make you feel sick need to stop watching paint dry and play some computer games. I never once felt sick, except when viewing the hotdogs in the cinema foyer.
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So in conclusion, it is at least a 9/10. It's not a masterpiece, but it is brilliant. It's clever. Almost too clever, but thankfully not quite. Highly entertaining and gives you plenty to talk about on the journey home.
Recommended.
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pigster
from melbs on 2008-02-02 06:27 [#02170787]
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"I got annoyed that the audio didn't distort when they were filming a few feet from a tank firing its main gun."
yeah, i think i posted a similar thing earlier. i just found the whole premise of the film incorrect. its sposed to be filmed on a small handcam, and yet i'm watching it in a cinema in high definition with surround sound and whatnot.
it shouldve just been released on youtube or something to retain the credibility of it all.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2008-02-03 16:13 [#02171313]
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I heard originally jj abrams wanted to have the sound in shitty mono and all, but paramount wouldn't have any of that
So I Don't Know
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OK
on 2008-02-03 17:06 [#02171338]
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credibility of a monster film...
I watched it last night, I enjoyed it.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-02-03 19:02 [#02171389]
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Am I the only one who was annoyed by the fact this movie was constantly aiming the camera at shit no one cares about/wants to see?
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2008-02-04 00:52 [#02171531]
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Well it could be an HD hand camera. I mean the guy was vice president of slusho Japan. He could afford it.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2008-02-04 03:22 [#02171567]
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I enjoyed it overall. Nice pace/buildup. Lots of nice jumpy parts. I read lots of reviews saying that the style was too youtubey... i think thats part of the point. A film for the times.
The allusions to 9/11 were obvious too but again i think thats needed.......... look at the origional godzilla... unashamedly about nuclear attack. Being too subtle can wiork againts you. The suicide bomber as well as the mega-atack were both dealt with very well. The scene with the tank appearing was done well... very suprising. I'd see it again.............
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-04 03:45 [#02171570]
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My girlfriend cried at the end. I laughed quite heartily at certain points. It was pretty good, not quite the reinvention of action cinema some people are heralding it to be, but still entertaining. Monster design was a bit wank though. If the things going to have no explanation as to its origin and, as such, no grounding in any kind of reality the design should've been much more insane. Just all crazy tentacles and gaping maws and massive eyes on sticks and so many limbs you cant even keep count. But then thats just a personal preference. Overall 7/10 good, solid movie.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2008-02-04 03:54 [#02171572]
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the whole "what is it", "where does it come from" etc is referencing the uncertainty and unknowingness of the general public to terrorist attacks. It's obvious! We're suppose to be right there with the characters.. not fed plot lines/explainations like traditional sci-fi films....
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-04 04:15 [#02171576]
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Exactly! This unknown, incomprehensible evil (terrorism) should've been unrecognizable to the human eye rather than a large gorillalizard with an extra pair of arms. But yes good film, heavy handed message (which I think it needs to be to get through to a lot of people considering the films lack of a rigid narrative).
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-04 06:58 [#02171600]
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I thought it was alright. The stupid part was the end where you get a good look at the whatever-it-is. That ruined it. I liked it being off in the distance, where you could just make out it's form.
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SPD
from United States on 2008-02-04 08:49 [#02171621]
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HUDCAM!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-04 12:34 [#02171701]
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did anyone see the satellite hit the water in the very last scene?
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