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I think we are. The kids of the future will laugh at our record/CD/Video/DVD/book collection. discuss |
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i think you're completely mistaken. |
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How so? |
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i've thought about this before and i kinda agree. i dunno if the future generation will laugh, or be really impressed. "hey matt, have you phil's ? it's fucken massive!" |
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i agree with your original post that is. also, takes the pain away. |
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I bet the kids of tomorrow will have some sort of usb buttplug device that slowly realeses mp3s into the blood system. |
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i don't think they'll laugh i hope the children of the future will be above that kind of sillyness |
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It'll be like it is now with some people who just do the new thing and some people going for quality while others go for nostalgia, but it'll be file vs tangible, not cs vs cassette or cd vs vinyl or anything like that. |
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dont worry about the money side of - music sales it all depends on the certain up-and-coming billionaire that's not getting enough, i hope something will be invented that can make music sound much more pure, or react more intensely to your brain so it's like you're right there next to the music, and you can get high |
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I don't know how it will manifest itself but I think that free media will herald a new art form. Not to be too geeky about it, but, in western society art has always followed cultural change. When teenagers gained a disposable income in the late 40's/50's in America, Rock and Roll was born. The same thing happened in the UK in the 60's launching pop music and creating idealist hippies. As did the 80's in Japan giving us a definative visual style, from comic books and typography. China will be the next teenage movement. I think in the western world it will be all about 'free media' and it is happening now because to have a large eclectic music collection wont take half of your paycheck as it did in my day. |
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you cannot take away the physical aspect of music. and new kids will always discover old music (like the way we do today) and take action to acquire it (like we do today); especially when we start dying off and our collection goes on the market. i know where you're going with this, but i don't think you can count out the whole physical-aspect of things. artwork, included. putting a record on is a vast-different experience than hitting play in winamp. different mediums for different moments for different effects. |
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lol, chinese the next teenage movement? are you aware of the more-serious battles they have to overcome before worrying about "art" and "music" ? |
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music held within physical medium will dwindle over the years, but will never die out completely. |
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If you look at the post war way of life in the US, life expectancy/economy it is very similar to China today. Chinese teenagers are starting to have a disposable income and I think with the only child phenominon and communism we have some very interesting stuff to come. You only have to look at Hong Kong movies over the last 30 years to see what a tiny splinter of the culture is capable of. |
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yeah america is just like mcdonalds, bad and cheap and a disgrace beacuse of how prominent it's become, ithink it's a good idea though to leave america for that reason and use that as a step to creating a rebirthing type thing |
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"dwindle", yes that is the word i was looking for. 010101, that i also agree with. but, chinese teenages being able to "revolt" as in punk and rock in the U.S.; i think that will be severely restrained or constricted by authoritative figures. more power to them! |
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lol |
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although culutre movements are valid, i really dont think they matter, look at universally diverse people like jimi hendrix who was completely american, but reached somany different people, there's something to say about just one person being themselves at all times, it can change a lot of things, not just music either |
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yes they have more options open to them but its kind of like throwing toys into a playpen. theyre not learning anything. most chinese kids dont even know or care what happened at tianamen square. |
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yeah, but the chinese can't carry a tune to save there life. |
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there aint going to be no revolution either |
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rad smiles, you say that (most chinese children dont know about...) as if americans are completely up-to-date about even our own affairs. bah! |
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I don't think that it will be a revolution in the sense of a massive change. But with the means teenagers will attemp to define themselves. I predict that the youth of China will be producing interesting art whether it be music/visual art/design/cinema/literature etc. Historicaly it is a pattern of events that seems to throw up some interesting things. |
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elusive, you're right. it's scary. it's not limited to china by any means. i'm not at all trying to say america is holier-than-thou or anything. |
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We're the last generation period. |
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probably |
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ha ha hu! |
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ooo i hope so! |
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putting a record on is a vast-different experience than hitting play in winamp. different mediums for different moments for different effects. You could say the same thing about "home movies" made on film vs. VHS, or VHS vs. digital. Or how about slideshows? When was the last time someone under the age of 50 offered to show you slides of their vacation? Sometimes old technology plain old goes away except for use by old people and isolated, compulsive wieners. |
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It is not a question of technology, although without it this phenominon would not happen. Up until now media was not available for free. It is very different to home taping in that the quality does not degrade from user to user. I think we are the last generation to have large physical collections of music that we have paid for. Future generations are already seeing music as disposable. Go into a record store and you wont find fifteen year olds browsing through CDs like I used to. |
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-Or how about slideshows? When was the last time someone under the age of 50 offered to show you slides of their vacation?- It is funny how things come full circle, because I was doing just that the other day, only the slideshow was being displayed on my tv from my xbox 360, and the photos were on a portable device plugged into the console. |
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When the cost goes down we will buy the stuff. How to solve the music crisis ? duh make cds cheap. I'd buy a 5 page booklet of artist X no problem for 5-10 bucks. Thats cool. Mp3s are gay anyway, the format drives me nuts now. |
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Are you guys on dope or what? I already laugh at people like you i think im a futuremen then :- I dont buy any cds whatsoever. The last cd i buyed was like 5 years ago. Its a total waste of money to buy cds. The most good stuff you can already get in flac and why should you want techno music in a really high quality?? Buying cds is just arrogant. You could give all that money to charity but no you are going to buy the cds only to support an artist or an original booklet whats that about? Good artists will have enough money anyway. And it should be about making the music not about earning money from it. Why should people make a living out of art? Making art should be a general thing like health care. |
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Could any post have illustrated my point better. Good work kid |
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do YOU give money to charity, then? |
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i probably agree with you for the most part, but what do you mean it should be like health care? people make buckets of money off of providing healthcare |
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wait no i don't agree with you at all, but anyway |
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i think that about wraps this topic up. |
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See this is where this conversation is getting confused. Are we talking about being the last generation that pays for music, period? Or the last generation that buys physical copies ie CDs, cassettes, vinyl etc. There are still certain releases that I would prefer to buy hardcopy, particularly if it is more along the ambient/drone/experimental lines. Those releases generally have a few long tracks, only one track, or sometimes like 50 very short tracks and are best enjoyed as one fluid listen. These releases often come with special artwork which is handmade, has custom die cutting involved, art cards or that sort of thing. Most electronic IDM stuff I will probably get off bleep as digital from here on out unless it is something really special then I will get the CD. |
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the government are going tax us for using their air/oxygen that floats about the united Kingdom...sound travels through air... very soon you wont be able fart without being taxed let alone listen to sound waves owned by multi national companies. |
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speed cameras will evolve into minute little robot things that will monitor your every activity and report to the devils of earth hell. |
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Earth hell is where live. |
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The (vast) majority of people I know don't download music without paying for it, those that even download music at all. The ones with iPods buy songs from iTunes. |
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I feel that some of you say that because RDJ said the same thing a couple of years ago, needless to say that if he didn't make a ton of money from making music his opinion today would be very different. |
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Lots of scruples to go around in Antarctica. Up here, hell even my grandparents are active pirates by proxy, by now it's understood that they can get any country or swing they want through me or other computer literate family members, no charge. They must have 100 CD-Rs of stolen music sitting by the phonograph in their listening den. |
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I did mean healt care should be free and the same for everyone too just as music and art should be free to all to get and to make Art should be the opposite of economics |
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music/art is the one few things that keeps us all sane under our enslavement to the government/multinational companies. if we paid less to these vicious inefficient world destructive crooks we could afford to offer far more to our wonderful artist saviors for their incredible efforts.. ..but i don't think they are that greedy anyway... |
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Sorry, I like to buy music. Especially if it's directly from the artist. I would more than likely rip off stuff from the major labels though. |
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Future generations are already seeing music as disposable. Go into a record store and you wont find fifteen year olds browsing through CDs like I used to. Well of course not. Why buy the cow when the milk is free? |
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It is funny how things come full circle, because I was doing just that the other day, only the slideshow was being displayed on my tv from my xbox 360, and the photos were on a portable device plugged into the console. Ha ha! Plus ca change. I was thinking of actual physical slides in the little white plastic frames. I made a "slideshow" recently for my mother in law's birthday party with a laptop and an lcd projector. We ended up projecting on a collapsible screen from the 1970s. Interesting blend of Flintstones and Futurama. |
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