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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2008-01-12 10:29 [#02162909]
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bored? I mean, im always bored, im the chairman of the bored. Look, I hate my job, but I also hate weekends, because most of the time i dont do anything, and there isnt anything that intrests me.
So, i just wait till its monday again, and than i wait till its weekend. This is any endless cycle that leads nowhere
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-12 10:33 [#02162914]
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killer
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EDDIE MURPHY
from EDDIE (United States) on 2008-01-12 10:38 [#02162917]
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PARTY ALL THE TIME
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 10:41 [#02162919]
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the brain co-evolved with the head, probably positioned there due to close proximation to eyes/ears.. therefore its purpose must have evolved to deal with senses. 'the retina and the optic nerve originate as outgrowths of the developing brain. Hence, the retina is part of the central nervous system (CNS).'
Maybe the sense of touch evolved first. Hearing is just a form of touch actually (body hair can feel wind- is wind a form of sound?); is seeing 'touching' photons? 'visual perception is the ability to interpret visible light information reaching the eyes'. So really a body can only interact with directly adjacent stuff (only sense is touch) like a cellular automata.. the SUN's photons/light is what you're seeing reflected off surfaces in organized ways.
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rad smiles
on 2008-01-12 10:41 [#02162920]
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wow you're describing my life as of late
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EDDIE MURPHY
from EDDIE (United States) on 2008-01-12 10:43 [#02162923]
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SHIT IS DEEP, SON
NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT LIKE THAT BEFORE
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 10:57 [#02162937]
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artificial creativity, as opposed to artificial intelligence. Is creativity just random combination of things that are already known? trying lots of possible solutions?
Storm botnet- viral malicious supercomputer
bbc 'planet earth' videos, bbc horizon videos, maybe panorama or something too
robocup (insect like intelligence robot soccer)
maybe 'narrow' vs 'general' ai is a bad meme, and general simply = lots of narrow together. And really, I guess chess ai is merely searched output per input. They say its narrow because chess ai can't play backgammon, but it can't even likely work with only a slight mutation (such as adding another row of squares to the board (or can it)). What is a narrow task that a human does: put toothpaste on brush, brush teeth... . Maybe its all about fuzzy uncertainty type algorithms, one time the toothpaste is turned the opposite direction- you never brush EXACTLY the same way, etc. Try this flash idea: top view screen that pans left of ramps/obstacles/etc = ai car (on left) range of vision. The right constantly generates RANDOM ramps/etc. Then it has to learn to navigate based on reward or something.
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Sano
on 2008-01-12 11:10 [#02162951]
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What's your theory on fractals? Is Nature smart?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 13:26 [#02163014]
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Another way to put it is 'is the universe smart?'. It contains us and we are 'smart' based on our definition. If it contains us then we are it and therefore it is smart in one sense. Our self is an emergent property of lots of individual neurons perhaps. I guess the universe is too big and elusive to see whatever emergent properties it has on a larger scale. Emergence is bottom up creation but for all I know maybe the universe is top down if that makes sense. This whole universe might just be one of its synapse equivalents. Where does the complexity end?
simple local rules create complicated global behavior (emergent). nonlinearity (game of life, cellular automata). It is obvious that units that behave based ONLY on states of immediate neighbors can do interesting things so maybe neurons are based on this. actually in reality, things obey local rules too (like gravity only affects other geographically local things.)
wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated skippable text but also some highly interesting areas and fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree branching.
How about black objects. Apparently they absorb light because they don't reflect much.. well don't they ever get 'full' of light or they just keep absorbing and absorbing.
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epohs
from )C: on 2008-01-12 14:07 [#02163026]
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They never get full. The light hits them and isn't reflected, it is converted into heat. Maybe 'Absorb' is the wrong word though.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2008-01-12 14:09 [#02163029]
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the chairman
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 14:25 [#02163034]
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Then why are africans skin black when they live in such a hot place. Wouldn't they evolve to be less hot? Or it was to become camouflaged at night to hide from wooly rhinosnauceruses.
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epohs
from )C: on 2008-01-12 14:28 [#02163035]
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I think it was to protect their insides from the stronger sun. Darker skin = less UV getting through & frying their meat.
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2008-01-12 14:44 [#02163039]
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read a book learn to juggle go for a walk watch a film clean your house go on xltronic listen to a record get drunk read a newspaper in a cafe call a friend masturbate cook some food
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2008-01-12 15:36 [#02163047]
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fucking go mental
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-01-12 16:25 [#02163064]
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pichunter.com and go straight to the pee porn section
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Sano
on 2008-01-13 10:24 [#02163256]
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Apparently holding a sharped pencil vertically in the tip of your index finger without it falling is comparable to how the universe is hold together for all this time since the big bang. To me universe is smart it's like it knew what it was doing, it could be the laws of physic working like a computer running a program is able to perform intelligent tasks.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:01 [#02634843]
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the universe is space-time granular and is both deterministic and completely unpredictable, as it is its own fastest explanation
the fastest explanation of the universe is the universe. the most succinct explanation of myself is to be me. the summary of my bullshit thread is TLDR.
as the depth of human knowledge expands, so will the universe. as we push further out, it will expand. we will never catch the leading edge. best we can do is use a quantum computer made of meat to reach further out
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:02 [#02634844]
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PARTY ALL THE TIME
i defy you and only party some of the time
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:11 [#02634845]
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wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated skippable text but also some highly interesting areas and fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree branching.
...wait, you fucking read it?
dad and i (maybe sis too?) went to see wolfram pimp his new kind of science at a lecture. this was the first time i saw a barnsley fern -- or, at least, learned what it was. stephen fucking wolfram's powerpoint presentation. i also remember he had a green laser pointer, which is still kind of unusual... but virtually unheard of then
anyways, dad got the book. i'm not sure how far he got. "i can't figure out if he's full of shit or not, but i kind of think yes" was, i believe dad's conclusion. but then he amended: "but it's the greatest bug-squisher book you'll ever see"
and the book went to a vacation in vermont. and i tried to read it, and probably didn't get as far as dad. and that book ended quite a few bugs. it's the greatest bug-squisher book you'll ever see
wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated skippable text but also some highly interesting areas and fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree branching.
what makes an 'area' of a fractal 'highly interesting'?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:18 [#02634846]
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but it's not a good book for...
well, i was chasing the dog around the house because both dog and i enjoy and i slip and fall and bang my leg and then there's a bump that won't go away. and the doctor then ultrasounds my dog-chasing injury with ultrasound like it's a baby bump and concludes "it's a cyst"
and what do i do? will it go away?
nothing. it might eventually
but then, bless him, he amends: ...but i suppose you could give it a whack with the family bible if you wanted to. before wandering off to doctor something less dumb
for that? no way will a new kind of science cut it. i can't get a good windup with that, and i don't want to have to do this more than once.
so i selected "linear algebra and its applications" by kenneth lay. if you need to pop a cyst, i recommend this book. one and done
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:22 [#02634847]
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LAZY_TITLE ~ oh no it's David Lay
i was thinking of the enron guy [yes?]
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:30 [#02634848]
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He conjectured that the Rule 110 cellular automaton might be Turing complete, which a research assistant to Wolfram, Matthew Cook, later proved correct.[27] Wolfram sued Cook and temporarily blocked publication of the work on Rule 110 for allegedly violating a non-disclosure agreement until Wolfram could publish the work in his controversial book A New Kind of Science.[4][28] Wolfram's cellular-automata work came to be cited in more than 10,000 papers.[23]
i did a track named rule 110 many years ago. i never knew about all the legal drama. but it's nothing new
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:37 [#02634850]
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im the chairman of the bored
im the chairman of truce
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