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looking more likely every day... |
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the democrats are continuously blowing really great opportunities because of corporate influence. one would expect after 8 years of bush and mccain offering more of the same it wouldn't even be a second thought, a democrat would easily win, yet they keep blowing it. i thought obama would be different. ha. silly me. |
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What has surfaced that has changed your mind and how are they blowing it? |
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they're blowing it by not addressing the issues they should be addressing. |
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can't blame them. If they slip up just a little the press and their opponent's camp will hound them to death. You can't really say anything more than slogans at this point. The press (and the camps running for pres) are worse than toddlers in sand boxes. They latch on one little clip of someone saying something not quite right and its news for 2 weeks. |
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having 2 families in power in this country for such a long span of time is most dangerous in my eyes |
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plenty of time for 'issues' once he's beaten clinton to the nomination, i'm really glad hes doing as well as he is |
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i would change america forever. obligatory bowie song morning listening for each and every US citizen - BSML |
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well like i said, of all the mainstream candidates i like obama the best but i dont think im going to vote for a democrat or (definitely not) a republican. |
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In one week he's going from "we can change!" to "Gimmie all your change lady!" |
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you like mccain |
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ron paul! |
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No I was just trying out a joke I made up. Apparently it bombed. I like Obama still |
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yeah ok, rush limbaugh. |
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If Obama be prez of US of A how will peoples be able to distinguish between the terrorist named Obama when they read the newspaper? It will be chaos. |
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We should smoke Obama out of his hole |
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FUCK: Obama, Clinton, & McCain. I vote NO CONFIDENCE in any of these people |
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word |
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Fuck the media. McCain scares me. Thats a ww3 pres there. Bay of pigs, big red buttons, shit like that. He loves war. I really hope he doesn't get in |
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"If they slip up just a little the press and their opponent's camp will hound them to death." yes you can blame them, it's there job to represent the people, if they do not do that they shouldn't be in congress they are worthless. people voted the dems in for 2006 to end the war, impeach bush and cheney and they have done neither. being so careful as to hide the truth to the american public imo is near a crime. I dont give a shit if they are scared they need to have back bone and do their fucking job and stop helping drag this country into more of a shit heap. Its honestly because of acquiescent excusing attitudes like your own that we have gotten into this mess. If the american people put more of their representatives feet to the fire and demanded they do somehting instead of taking it up the ass and saying 'but guys they'll be yelled at by bill oriely on tv!' fuck that |
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I was talking about the run for office. Not what actually happens when they are in. People use the most petty things to attack each other during the election its no wonder people are not getting into specifics. People are too stupid. They'll just take sound bites and play them over and over to create doubt in peoples minds. Its very easy to manipulate the public with the simplest arguments. "Obama hates white people..so vote for me instead" Or "He is not a patriot" Or "This person did this ten years ago" Or this person said that on a radio show once"..Anything to get the headless media onto a new subject for a week. Its bumper sticker politics..again |
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sorry i thought you were referring to the democratic majority congress and senate |
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people get what they deserve. if they allow this stuff to happen then by all means they deserve it. |
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Obama: + Seems like a great, stand-up guy - Horrible policies You decide which is more important, evidently most people think it's character over issues. /facepalm |
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who's more suited to get us out of this mess? |
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define Horrible policies. |
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That depends on what the definition of "is" is. |
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His whole economic policy is absolutely horrible. Though this issue is not as big as the economy with me, his policy on immigration is bad. He wants to "supposedly" withdraw from Iraq, which I agree with, but he wants to keep the bases that we built there intact. And Rad, the person best suited for the job IMO was Ron Paul. The economy is my number 1 concern and he's the only one that tackles the issues cause by inflating our dollar (FED lowering interest rates) and causing its value to decrease. Could go on and on with economic crap, but basically Obama has no idea nor does his staff. Case in point would be on Fox Business News, they have a gentleman named Peter Schiff on there often. And he has been spot on with his predictions of Wall Street as well as Main Street. The reason I mention him was at first no one agreed with him (neo-con conservatives+liberals), but now slowly but surely the other guests and commentators can't disagree with him. And Peter Schiff=Ron Paul when it comes to economic policy. I would youtube him and sort by date and listen to him on these TV programs. |
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I can't understand economics. I glanced though a college text book on economics and shit my pants. I like Ron Paul, though. He would be my ideal candidate. I was really hoping for a fair tax, too. |
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thanks for the tip on schiffer. this one's especially great. visionairy... |
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CANADA FOR PRESIDENT. |
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Wow, Schiffer is like Nostradamus. We should listen to him. Or do the opposite of that other guy, Arthur Laffer. Arthur Laffer is opposite man. Maybe that is his technique. |
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I love Peter Schiff. That clip with Art Laffer is a classic, and one of the examples to why I said no one agreed with him at first. Of course you still have people disagreeing with him, but time and time again he is spot on. And this is the problem with America, the remedy that Peter suggests in his various clips is only followed by Ron Paul. No one else running/ran for President in '08 is on the same page as he is. BTW, pick up Peter's book "Crash Proof" if you are interested in him and show some support. Great read. |
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There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones. Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower. ----------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Barack Obama says the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE every time he sees an American flag. He also ends every sentence by saying, "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." Click here for video of Obama quietly mouthing the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in his sleep. A tape exists of Michelle Obama saying the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE at a conference on PATRIOTISM. Every weekend, Barack and Michelle take their daughters HUNTING. Barack Obama is a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN. He has one HAND over his HEART at all times. He occasionally switches when one arm gets tired, which is almost never because he is STRONG. Barack Obama has the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE tattooed on his stomach. It's upside-down, so he can read it while doing sit-ups. There's only one artist on Barack Obama's iPod: FRANCIS SCOTT KEY. Barack Obama is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. His favorite book is the BIBLE, which he has memorized. His name means HE WHO LOVES JESUS in the ancient language of Aramaic. He is PROUD that Jesus was an American. Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW. Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH. Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL. Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT. Barack Obama says that Americans cling to GUNS and RELIGION because they are AWESOME. |
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"Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL." ouch |
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it might change a few minds, that post! i'm going to pass it along to all the hard workin' farmers i come into contact with. |
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thank you for your support, guys |
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his popularity has become quite remarkable. he's greeted by thousands everywhere, like he is already the president. i would be really surprised (and disappointed) if he does not become the next president. GO, OBAMA, GO! |
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i guess it's good to be charismatic as a president because people will do what you say, also he's probably smart (i still need to read obamy's book) |
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im mother is convinced his father is arabic and all generations before are muslim. so, she doesnt like him for his dishonesty. |
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my mother* |
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mccain is playing this election quietly confident. he doesn't need huge, enthusiastic crowds to know how good he is. |
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she shouldn't vote |
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criticisms of Obama from an anti-war and liberal perspective: why Obama's iraq pullout plan and his statements on 'no permanent bases' are lies - "A senior foreign policy adviser to leading Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has told The Nation that if elected Obama will not "rule out" using private security companies like Blackwater Worldwide in Iraq. The adviser also said that Obama does not plan to sign on to legislation that seeks to ban the use of these forces in US war zones by January 2009, when a new President will be sworn in. Obama's campaign says that instead he will focus on bringing accountability to these forces while increasing funding for the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the agency that employs Blackwater and other private security contractors. (Hillary Clinton's staff did not respond to repeated requests for an interview or a statement on this issue.) Obama's broader Iraq withdrawal plan provides for some US troops to remain in Iraq -- how many his advisers won't say. But it's clear that Obama's "follow-on force" will include a robust security force to protect US personnel in Iraq, US trainers (who would also require security) for Iraqi forces and military units to "strike at Al Qaeda" -- all very broad swaths of the occupation. "If Barack Obama comes into office next January and our diplomatic security service is in the state it's in and the situation on the ground in Iraq is in the state it's in, I think we will be forced to rely on a host of security measures," said the senior adviser. "I can't rule out, I won't rule out, private security contractors." |
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to sum this up... Obama is not a liberal. He's a slightly left leaning centrist globalist |
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bleh. |
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excellent analysis |
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