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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:22 [#02158602]
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if christianity is largely 'made-up' and yet asserts that lying is a sin punishable with eternal damnation;
with knowing this as a lie and still asserting that lies are wrong, then surely its making is of a truly evil nature?
perhaps the lie is justifiable for the evils it seeks to eradicate?
evidently mind, fighting fire with fire only ever made more fire
maybe this is the intention?
more sin = more redemption = more followers = more money
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-28 13:25 [#02158604]
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mo' money mo' Jesus
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 13:26 [#02158606]
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jesus is love. the sooner you realise it, the better.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-12-28 13:26 [#02158607]
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Can I groom you? I'll be gentle.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:28 [#02158609]
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wow you sound incredibly smarmy
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-12-28 13:29 [#02158610]
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I wish you would stop trying to appear clever. It has the opposite effect.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:29 [#02158611]
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you don't even have to ask
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 13:30 [#02158612]
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love and jesus. love and jesus. love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus.love and jesus. *infinity
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:30 [#02158613]
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you're right. i'm clearly out of my depth
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 13:36 [#02158618]
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hey dude, what do you do for life?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:41 [#02158619]
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you said,
'jesus is love. the sooner you realise it, the better.'
presuming something so incredibly hastily.
i am aware of this. aware so completely that i often bring it up (although when i say it, i replace the word jesus with god).
in my thoughts, god is love, love is the governor. love is a way of describing life. it's not the stereotype we see it as. love to me is much like the kind of god from the old testament, like some kind of untameable fire. completely mad and unexplainable.
it's a way of understanding the world and since i have realised that it has been better. the picture is a little clearer
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 13:44 [#02158620]
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as for what i do 'for life', as for how i know it and see it, i try as much as i can to make sense of it
a lot of the time i'm put off when people shut down
gives me a sense of total futility which i find quite sickening
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 13:45 [#02158621]
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i was only kidding around because you said you hate to see the words 'jesus' and 'love' in the same sentence.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 13:47 [#02158623]
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it's tough to make sense of life. good luck with that. i actually meant like what do you do? where do you see yourself in the future kind of thing...
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 14:02 [#02158628]
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currently i'm living at home considering doing something in psychology
i do hope to make something of my life, but i don't expect much
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 14:02 [#02158629]
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and you sire?
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-12-28 14:09 [#02158632]
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Well, one flaw in your argument is that I doubt a majority of the people who are promoting christianity 'know' that it is a lie.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 14:12 [#02158633]
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but what about the original writers?
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Advocate
on 2007-12-28 14:13 [#02158634]
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You are all Antichrists!
Damn you all! Damn you to HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL!
But seriously, I recommend you read 'The Antichrist' by Nietzsche if you are interested in this type of shit. Nietzsche explores the psychological nature of Christianity. In the book, concepts of 'sin', 'guilt' and so-called 'compassion' are explored and deconstructed.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 14:20 [#02158635]
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thanks i will have a look into that :-)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 14:26 [#02158637]
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'tis free
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-12-28 14:27 [#02158638]
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I doubt there were "original writers". The bible is a collection of stories that were originally tales and myths and legends and hearsay that probably date back to about 15 minutes after the first monkey learned how to talk. Its been pieced together over the millinea, probably by folks that believed that all of the myths pointed toward a larger message, and were trying to formulate a consistent story out of the little pieces.
You hear about these giant secret conferences that have gotten together at various times to revise and rewrite the bible... but I think even they probably believed it more or less and were just attempting to clarify the message, or whatever.
I mean, I'm sure there have been folks over the years who have had influence on the contents of the bible that didn't believe, but were using it merely as a tool for personal gain. But, I think those were probably the minority... The rest were delusional folks who tried to believe it. Probably wanted to believe it. And maybe even did truly believe it.
But, I guarantee all of those, regardless of their level of true belief, attempted to use it as a tool for personal gain to one degree or another.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-28 15:00 [#02158652]
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i'm studying anthropology and history. i'm not quite sure how far i'll take it just yet. in order to become a fully fledged anthropologist i'll need to get a phd, and i'm not sure if i'm up for it. maybe i'll go on with history and just become a teacher. i really want to travel some more, so i may tie that in with teaching.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-12-28 15:12 [#02158669]
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love is the governor
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-12-28 15:17 [#02158672]
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amen.
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-12-28 16:41 [#02158720]
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Scientology ftw
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2007-12-28 16:50 [#02158725]
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haha
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Ead1528
from Bucks County, PA (United States) on 2007-12-28 17:25 [#02158742]
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Jesus was a big-hearted liberal :-)
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mimi
on 2007-12-29 13:36 [#02158987]
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Pope's exorcist squads will wage war on Satan
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-12-29 13:40 [#02158989]
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hahaha
o god, that man seriously looks like one of satan's henchmen
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-29 14:23 [#02158999]
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lol!
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2007-12-29 14:39 [#02159004]
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holy shit that guys fuckin wierd
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-12-29 14:46 [#02159007]
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holy shit that guys fuckin wired
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rad smiles
on 2007-12-29 16:07 [#02159029]
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pope crank is the best!
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-12-31 19:29 [#02159638]
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wait, wtf, is that real?
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-12-31 19:46 [#02159641]
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omfg.. okay, there are real problems in the world that they mention in this article, like child abuse. but, believing that you can cast some spells and drive ghosts out of child molesters to solve the problem... holy fuck.
That is a prime example of why sitting passively by while people believe obviously insane things is dangerous. It should be pointed out that there is quite literally no reason to believe that saying these prayers is going to cure these people. And your child will not be more safe simply because you believe in these fairy tales.
It is pretty much not okay to give this kind of ignorance a free pass under the guise of religious tolerance. Surely sane people can see that there's no basis for believing that this stuff is actually real?.. or if there is a rational basis, have them lay out their case.
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