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. how much would you pay to end the war in iraq? ron paul wants to stop it. and he's trying to break the all time fund raising record today. check out the . if you like the message, . help get the word out before it's too late. this guy may be humanity's only chance of avoiding world war 3. . |
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OMG HE DELIVERED MORE THAN FOUR THOUSAND BABIES?!!?!?!? THAT'S PRESIDENT MATERIALS!!!!!!!!! |
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I can't and I wouldn't, go away. |
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I can't but I wish I could! |
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me too :\ |
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If you love Ron Paul so much why don't you marry him and die in a car accident. |
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What's the matter? |
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this seems like the man to do the job. unfortunately the likelihood of him getting elected is infinitely small. do you really think the current government is going to let this happen? |
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lovely strings... |
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i would never vote for ron paul, can't all of you lame asses find an anti-war candidate who isn't a complete fuck up |
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vote for the message. there is no perfect candidate. |
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but his message is shit, why would i vote for it? |
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if you don't like the message, then that's your call. |
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these ultra-religious nuts are fucking scaring me to hell. |
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I with I lived in Canda, I wouldnt have to put up with american politics, or even living in Mexico, might be fun. |
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I think he wants to build a fence along the border with Mexico, and round up and ship all illegal immigrants currently in the US back over the border. So, its a good thing he's wanting to cut every other government project completely out of the budget because those two proposals alone will consume every penny that everything else took. He also wants religion to play a larger role in government. |
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the immigrant thing is really whatputs him into the huge joke category for me |
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Both take him out of consideration for me, but its the religion one that really sets it in stone. |
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where do you get your facts? ron paul on immigration: Q: Is it even practical to try to send 12 million illegal immigrants all home? PAUL: I would not sign a bill like [comprehensive immigration reform], because it would be amnesty. I also think that it's pretty impractical to get an army in this country to round up 12 or maybe 20 million. But I do believe that we have to stick to our guns on obeying the law, and anybody who comes in here illegally shouldn't be rewarded. And that would be the case. Q: You voted to support that 700-mile fence along the border with Mexico. Is there a need for a similar fence along the border with Canada? PAUL: No. The fence was my weakest reason for voting for that, but enforcing the law was important, and border security is important. And we've talked about amnesty, which I'm positively opposed to. If you subsidize something, you get more of it. We subsidize illegal immigration, we reward it by easy citizenship, either birthright or amnesty. . do your research, there's a lot of bad/lazy reporting and misinfo out there. |
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Okay, so he didn't like the idea of a fence but he voted for it. He may think enforcing the law is paramount, but I don't think I agree with him when the particular law he is talking about is broken and enforcing it is a fiscal impossibility. |
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the guy hasn't got a clue. the next president will be a democrat. stop making life hard on yourself |
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if anything we need MORE immigrants, but this freaky pro-lifer probably thinks if we just stop aborting so many innocent cell clusters that our demographic problem will take care of itself |
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I'm really not 100% convinced. I think if Hillary wins the democratic nomination there will be a real ugly shitstorm. There's just so much hatred for anything Clinton in the Republican party. If it gets ugly enough and she can't come off as a likable human (which I have my doubts that she can), then I think there's a chance she could lose, no matter who the republicans nominate. |
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just an update on the fundrasing.. currently bringing in $6000 per minute, and looks to , topping out at $6+ million raised in one day. |
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That's heartwarming, if only we could rise so much money for something that's not so fucking vile. |
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well, the pharmaceutical industry likes her nowadays. when the republicans stop barking they'll roll over and be cuddled as well. o, and they will stop barking as soon as they realize they're on the loosing team. |
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Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Yeah, nothing's wrong in America. |
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Yeah for Hilary, close to national health care and raise my taxes up to a bazillion and kill small companies, yeah !! |
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Right now I think a candidate's likability as a person and their overall vision toward the world in general is more important than any specific policy stance. Bush's administration has done more to hurt our standing as a nation by just being a bunch of unilateral assholes than any policy change can fix. I don't really care what Hillary's last name is, I just don't like her. |
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i have hope that americans have learnt that voting for the most likeable person doesn't get them anywhere (eg. bush vs. gore). |
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and yes, hillary is the new gore |
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Clinton was the best president ever. |
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I think it's going to be a Hillary and Obama ticket against Huckabee. Huckebee wants to get rid of the IRS. So he couldn't be that crazy. |
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Not that I'm disagreeing, but what lessons did America learn from voting for Gore? If anything I would say American's learned that voting in general doesn't get them anywhere, not that voting for a more likable guy doesn't get them anywhere. Also, I'm not saying that likability should be the only trait to look for, but the US is so polarized right now that we're paralyzed internally, and we have a fucking terrible image in the world. That hurts us any time we try to do anything. |
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i get a sense from the democrats that they're willing to do just about anything to win the next elections. even more so than the republicans. they're even willing to play the game like republicans. a nice example were the events in bali where next to the delegation of bush's administration there was a second delegation of democrats. this second delegation basically saying not to worry too much about the first delegation because in 2009 things will change for the better. the next - what would be - democratic administration is already busy laying the foundations for new and improved international relationships. it appears that the current administration is left virtually powerless and seeing the current events around certain destroyed cia tapes its days are numbered as well. |
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, up 50% from last month, and beating hillary's all-time record.. |
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whoops, that should read 6 million in one day. |
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Amazing! |
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Paul seems like a decent honest guy, which as I've said before is my main criteria for a candidate. I also like Gore and Nader for the same reason. Issue-wise fundamentally I'm a libertarian (+social liberties, -excess government) so he's right up my alley. I don't necessarily agree with his stances on abortion or immigration but eh, there's always something I don't like about every candidate. |
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The one good thing about Huckabee is that he's forcing all the other candidates to show how non-secular they really are. |
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well said. |
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Yes, well, Huckabee has the balls to retire of a huge bloated system like the IRS. Which would be an amazing thing. I'm sick of the status quo in government. The "keep pilling on" mentality, thus being left with a bloated system. The IRS is nothing but a fucking mob boss. Every product you buy is taxed from here to sunday. Its not just taxed at the point of sale. Then we get taxed for having the money to buy the products. Its never ending. It's a way to keep tabs on and enslave people. Ron Paul ought to take note. Dismantling the IRS would mean true independence. |
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Ron Paul was the first one to put forth that idea, now Huckabee is saying he would do the same just to win votes.. |
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