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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-24 04:26 [#02147263]
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i'm sure nobody gives a toss, but i'd hate myself if i didnt post it.
go on, buy nothing today. it's free.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-11-24 04:29 [#02147264]
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oops
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-24 04:41 [#02147268]
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help-yourselves-to-the-shelves day.
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PS
on 2007-11-24 04:47 [#02147269]
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I'm growing all my food in the field today. Also, I have a dog that entertains me, named Joshua! Ruh ruh, make jingle sounds, I like it when you run!
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2007-11-24 04:58 [#02147272]
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wasnt this yesterday?
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-11-24 05:04 [#02147275]
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I give a tuss.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-11-24 05:05 [#02147276]
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I've had quite enough 'Buy Nothing' days in my lifetime, thank you.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-24 05:46 [#02147280]
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LAZY_TITLE
i probably should have mentioned this was on the 23rd in the US.
24th for europe.
so paul, what are you buying today?
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-11-24 06:23 [#02147287]
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i bought nothing yesterday.so you cant even buy beers today?
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-11-24 06:43 [#02147290]
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I bought a dog leash and ski mask yesterday. Cruddddd
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-11-24 06:58 [#02147293]
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i was about to make some slide comments about how this is not really helping anybody except the conscience of middle class feel-good liberals ... and i guess i did
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-24 07:13 [#02147294]
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this isnt really about helping other people in the first place. it's helping you pause for a moment to realise you are buying shit every single day without really thinking about it.
when there are days on which you buy nothing, like marlowe mentioned earlier, those are typically for entirely other reasons, mostly:
having stocked up on one of those days where money didnt matter, or simply being too lazy to get off your ass.
It really won't hurt anyone to stop and think about their consumer habits for just one single day per year. But look at everyone bitching about it. It's absolutely pathetic.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-24 07:29 [#02147295]
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to try and avoid some endless flame-war:
if you have some good arguments to completely ignore the concept of buy nothing day, then please share them.
if you don't, just ignore this thread and carry on with your automated consumerism. (it's ok, i will too after today).
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-11-24 07:39 [#02147300]
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I have to buy some milk and eggs. Sorry guys.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-11-24 08:00 [#02147301]
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I usually don't buy anything but food, and I have to buy food today if I want to have something to eat tomorrow. I'm sorry.
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iiiiiiiiii
from Gloucester on 2007-11-24 08:01 [#02147302]
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the concept is a good idea, but a bit in vein. most people aren't going to take any notice. they'd rather just buy shit. after all, buying shit makes you happy. haven't you seen the adverts?
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big
from lsg on 2007-11-24 08:08 [#02147304]
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you'll just buy tomorrow and then probably more then you would have today, imo
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-11-24 08:13 [#02147305]
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intentions may be good, again, but it's sort of a half-hearted effort... one day a year simply isn't enough... if it's supposedly a sort of awareness campaign, then i don't think it's quite enough... all the power to grass roots campaigns, i just think it's more ritualistic (almost religious) than it is political.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-11-24 08:56 [#02147311]
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it's funny i went shopping at walmart yesterday :(
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-11-24 09:22 [#02147316]
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it's not about changing your habits for one day, but about being aware of them. Who knows, you might actually start consuming just a tiny bit less in the future, because you gave it some thought today.
It's quite sad to see that pretty much everyone here has this 'can't be helped' 'its just the way things are' 'wont make a difference' attitude. If you apply that to living in general, i suppose it's a big reason for the mess we're in.
Boxbob, you call it a half hearted effort, but why are you expecting others to make an effort that is supposed to come from every individual that consumes too much?
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big
from lsg on 2007-11-24 09:44 [#02147319]
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i'd like to shoot people on shopping sunday (which is every sunday here),
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-11-24 10:07 [#02147321]
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What I find ridulous is people getting in loads of debt and working silly hours to buy a load of shit they don't even need. People should get out a bit more, enjoy socialising and public space.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-11-24 10:28 [#02147323]
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this is probably some us-invention to solve their trade deficit. lol. poor chumps. i'm wondering when the large opec countries decide to drop the dollar as the oil-currency. the us will be left piss-poor with mile high debts.
sorry, did i chuckle? ;p
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mimi
on 2007-11-24 10:30 [#02147325]
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it will be a long time before the house of saud OKs that!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-11-24 10:44 [#02147326]
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the only reason it hasn't happened already is that no-one gains from a dollar without any value. everyone benefits from a slow and silent devaluation of the dollar. it won't take much time till the saudi's see their bonds with the us don't help them one bit. (isn't it funny that recently they discovered that most foreign terrorists in iraq were saudi's? and hardly any from iran?)
in 50 years people will read the history books and be surprised the us ever was a superpower.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-11-24 10:48 [#02147327]
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here's an interesting read about it
Petrodollar or Petroeuro? A new source of global conflict
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-11-24 10:51 [#02147328]
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I just bought vodka and cigarettes hope this doesn't count...
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2007-11-24 10:52 [#02147329]
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the only thing i bought today was beer
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mimi
on 2007-11-24 11:10 [#02147334]
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yeah, let's bring in bancor!
really interesting article, thanks for tha link-up. i mean, it seems obvious why nobody would want it to happen overnight....it's interesting to see the history of this, it's something i haven't been paying attention to very long, just since i started this introductory IPE course this semester.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-11-24 11:32 [#02147337]
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to be fair to the bush-administration: in a way they just had to go to war in iraq. they just had to restore the bonds between the dollar and oil after iraq (saddam) decided it was time to trade oil in euros. the "petrodollar" would really be disastrous for the us-economy.
also interesting is that now that the russians are flirting with the euro as well, suddenly the us needs an excuse to place 'defensive' rockets on the eastern-european borders. seeing the way the us invaded iraq it's clear they tend to fight for their money. in the mean time the power behind their barking are fading however. soon it'll become clear the us needs international support to survive and is in effect not much more than a homeless on the corner asking for money.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-11-24 11:33 [#02147338]
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i mean the "petroeuro" :s
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2007-11-24 15:24 [#02147385]
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i bought a satnav today but i consider that an essential, think of all the pollution from the extra miles i would do getting lost without one!
and no i can't read maps
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-11-24 15:26 [#02147386]
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oh and I bought toilet paper. Think how rude I'd have look with my hands all brown and stuff :P
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-11-25 08:59 [#02147575]
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that's a cool article... This "petrodollar-petroeuro" conflict is essential to understand current affairs, although it's not the whole story. It was in 2002 or so that I first encountered this issue and wrote about it, in relation to Iraq, Venezuela and OPEC. Things haven't changed much since.
also, what's crucial is to stop purchasing all these plastic containers and gadgets to the best of one's ability, because it's a real waste that goes into disposable material, plus it supports the oil cartels...
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