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offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2008-01-12 10:29 [#02162909]
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bored? I mean, im always bored, im the chairman of the
bored. Look, I hate my job, but I also hate weekends,
because most of the time i dont do anything, and there isnt
anything that intrests me.
So, i just wait till its monday again, and than i wait till
its weekend. This is any endless cycle that leads nowhere


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2008-01-12 10:33 [#02162914]
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killer


 

offline EDDIE MURPHY from EDDIE (United States) on 2008-01-12 10:38 [#02162917]
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PARTY ALL THE TIME


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 10:41 [#02162919]
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the brain co-evolved with the head, probably positioned
there due to close proximation to eyes/ears.. therefore its
purpose must have evolved to deal with senses. 'the retina
and the optic nerve originate as outgrowths of the
developing brain. Hence, the retina is part of the central
nervous system (CNS).'
Maybe the sense of touch evolved first. Hearing is just a
form of touch actually (body hair can feel wind- is wind a
form of sound?); is seeing 'touching' photons? 'visual
perception is the ability to interpret visible light
information reaching the eyes'. So really a body can only
interact with directly adjacent stuff (only sense is touch)
like a cellular automata.. the SUN's photons/light is what
you're seeing reflected off surfaces in organized ways.


 

offline rad smiles on 2008-01-12 10:41 [#02162920]
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wow you're describing my life as of late


 

offline EDDIE MURPHY from EDDIE (United States) on 2008-01-12 10:43 [#02162923]
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SHIT IS DEEP, SON

NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT LIKE THAT BEFORE


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 10:57 [#02162937]
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artificial creativity, as opposed to artificial
intelligence. Is creativity just random combination of
things that are already known? trying lots of possible
solutions?

Storm botnet- viral malicious supercomputer

bbc 'planet earth' videos, bbc horizon videos, maybe
panorama or something too

robocup (insect like intelligence robot soccer)

maybe 'narrow' vs 'general' ai is a bad meme, and general
simply = lots of narrow together. And really, I guess chess
ai is merely searched output per input. They say its narrow
because chess ai can't play backgammon, but it can't even
likely work with only a slight mutation (such as adding
another row of squares to the board (or can it)). What is a
narrow task that a human does: put toothpaste on brush,
brush teeth... . Maybe its all about fuzzy uncertainty type
algorithms, one time the toothpaste is turned the opposite
direction- you never brush EXACTLY the same way, etc. Try
this flash idea: top view screen that pans left of
ramps/obstacles/etc = ai car (on left) range of vision. The
right constantly generates RANDOM ramps/etc. Then it has to
learn to navigate based on reward or something.


 

offline Sano on 2008-01-12 11:10 [#02162951]
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What's your theory on fractals? Is Nature smart?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 13:26 [#02163014]
Points: 21436 Status: Lurker | Followup to Sano: #02162951



Another way to put it is 'is the universe smart?'. It
contains us and we are 'smart' based on our definition. If
it contains us then we are it and therefore it is
smart in one sense. Our self is an emergent property of lots
of individual neurons perhaps. I guess the universe is too
big and elusive to see whatever emergent properties it has
on a larger scale. Emergence is bottom up creation but for
all I know maybe the universe is top down if that makes
sense. This whole universe might just be one of its synapse
equivalents. Where does the complexity end?

simple local rules create complicated global behavior
(emergent). nonlinearity (game of life, cellular automata).
It is obvious that units that behave based ONLY on states of
immediate neighbors can do interesting things so maybe
neurons are based on this. actually in reality, things obey
local rules too (like gravity only affects other
geographically local things.)

wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated
skippable text but also some highly interesting areas and
fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree
branching.

How about black objects. Apparently they absorb light
because they don't reflect much.. well don't they ever get
'full' of light or they just keep absorbing and absorbing.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2008-01-12 14:07 [#02163026]
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They never get full. The light hits them and isn't
reflected, it is converted into heat. Maybe 'Absorb' is the
wrong word though.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2008-01-12 14:09 [#02163029]
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the chairman


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-01-12 14:25 [#02163034]
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Then why are africans skin black when they live in such a
hot place. Wouldn't they evolve to be less hot? Or it was to
become camouflaged at night to hide from wooly
rhinosnauceruses.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2008-01-12 14:28 [#02163035]
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I think it was to protect their insides from the stronger
sun. Darker skin = less UV getting through & frying their
meat.


 

offline iiiiiiiiii from Gloucester on 2008-01-12 14:44 [#02163039]
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read a book
learn to juggle
go for a walk
watch a film
clean your house
go on xltronic
listen to a record
get drunk
read a newspaper in a cafe
call a friend
masturbate
cook some food



 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2008-01-12 15:36 [#02163047]
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fucking go mental


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2008-01-12 16:25 [#02163064]
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pichunter.com and go straight to the pee porn section


 

offline Sano on 2008-01-13 10:24 [#02163256]
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Apparently holding a sharped pencil vertically in the tip of
your index finger without it falling is comparable to how
the universe is hold together for all this time since the
big bang. To me universe is smart it's like it knew what it
was doing, it could be the laws of physic working like a
computer running a program is able to perform intelligent
tasks.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:01 [#02634843]
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the universe is space-time granular and is both
deterministic and completely unpredictable, as it is its own
fastest explanation

explanation
the fastest explanation of the universe is the universe.
the most succinct explanation of myself is to be me.
the summary of my bullshit thread is TLDR.

as the depth of human knowledge expands, so will the
universe. as we push further out, it will expand. we will
never catch the leading edge. best we can do is use a
quantum computer made of meat to reach further out


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:02 [#02634844]
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PARTY ALL THE TIME

i defy you and only party some of the time


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:11 [#02634845]
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wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated
skippable text but also some highly interesting areas and
fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree
branching.


...wait, you fucking read it?

dad and i (maybe sis too?) went to see wolfram pimp his new
kind of science at a lecture. this was the first time i saw
a barnsley fern -- or, at least, learned what it was.
stephen fucking wolfram's powerpoint presentation. i also
remember he had a green laser pointer, which is still
kind of unusual... but virtually unheard of then

anyways, dad got the book. i'm not sure how far he got. "i
can't figure out if he's full of shit or not, but i kind of
think yes" was, i believe dad's conclusion. but then he
amended: "but it's the greatest bug-squisher book you'll
ever see"

and the book went to a vacation in vermont. and i tried to
read it, and probably didn't get as far as dad. and that
book ended quite a few bugs. it's the greatest bug-squisher
book you'll ever see

wolfram's 'a new kind of science' has lots of bloated
skippable text but also some highly interesting areas
and fractals seem to be based on program rules such as tree
branching.


what makes an 'area' of a fractal 'highly interesting'?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:18 [#02634846]
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but it's not a good book for...

well, i was chasing the dog around the house because both
dog and i enjoy and i slip and fall and bang my leg and then
there's a bump that won't go away. and the doctor then
ultrasounds my dog-chasing injury with ultrasound like it's
a baby bump and concludes "it's a cyst"

and what do i do? will it go away?

nothing. it might eventually

but then, bless him, he amends: ...but i suppose you could
give it a whack with the family bible if you wanted to.
before wandering off to doctor something less dumb

for that? no way will a new kind of science cut it. i can't
get a good windup with that, and i don't want to have to do
this more than once.

so i selected "linear algebra and its applications" by
kenneth lay. if you need to pop a cyst, i recommend this
book. one and done


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:22 [#02634847]
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LAZY_TITLE ~ oh no it's David Lay

i was thinking of the enron guy [yes?]


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:30 [#02634848]
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He conjectured that the Rule 110 cellular automaton might
be Turing complete, which a research assistant to Wolfram,
Matthew Cook, later proved correct.[27] Wolfram sued Cook
and temporarily blocked publication of the work on Rule 110
for allegedly violating a non-disclosure agreement until
Wolfram could publish the work in his controversial book A
New Kind of Science.[4][28] Wolfram's cellular-automata work
came to be cited in more than 10,000 papers.[23]


i did a track named rule 110 many years ago. i never knew
about all the legal drama. but it's nothing new


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-04-13 07:37 [#02634850]
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im the chairman of the bored

im the chairman of truce


 


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