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offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 14:43 [#00414354]
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i dunno about plato, mate: my friend bought me my copy there
for my birthday 2 weeks ago :P

oh well there's always velvet :O


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 14:45 [#00414356]
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about the peelsessions: is that really worth getting? Ever
since 'alive in japan'... i've kind of lost my interest in
electronic artists performing live.

I mean: it probably works if you're actually there at the
time, but to release it on a cd seems a bit pointless.

So unless BOC made some radical changes in their songs for
the peelsession, i probably won't be buying that one.


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:48 [#00414362]
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peel sessions isn't that great, worth d/l but not buying...
get hi scores, it a great ep and contains the track
'everything you do is a balloon', which by itself would
almost be good enough for me


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:49 [#00414363]
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no

the peel sessions is like... 4 tracks you get with any other
album, and not even really changed

not worth it


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 14:50 [#00414366]
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the peel sessions japanese import thingy is quite nice. it
contains ae's first peel sessions as well as boc's and black
dog's. it was on sale a while ago at warprecords.com.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 14:50 [#00414367]
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hm...

verdorie :-p

Well plato wouldn't be much of a recordstore if they only
have one copy of it. I'm sure there'll be another one on
friday ;-) I'm not too keen on velvet... their
electronica-section is usually not so great. But i can have
a look ofcourse. The nice thing about leiden is all the good
musicstores are very close to each other.



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 14:53 [#00414371]
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hehe helaas :P

don't underestimate velvet, though. they even have amon
tobin's latest cd + gantz graf :O


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 14:54 [#00414374]
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But hi scores is not easy to find or is it? I've never seen
it in any store...

I think i'll pass on the peelsessions. "and not even really
changed"... that's what i was afraid of.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-23 14:57 [#00414377]
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yeah, the only real reason to get it was if you were like a
obsessive fan that has to own every release ever done by
them.

hi scores is alittle tricky to find. ive only seen it one
place so far, and i bought it of course!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 15:01 [#00414383]
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hm okay... that's not bad (altough i already bought gantz
graf from plato :-p). But any record-store that stocks gantz
graf is at least worth checking out i guess.

I was actually quite surprised by the Aphex Twin-section in
my local Free Record Shop (!). They had almost everything
(well, not the really rare stuff (sadly) but all the albums
+ lots of ep's... maybe one of the employees is a fan or
something :-p). Not that i like shopping at FRS... not with
their prices :-S


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 15:05 [#00414390]
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they have analogue bubblebath 3, i believe, at velvet! but i
also saw that one at van leest in the haarlemmerstraat (that
was a major shock). a bit pricy, though (18 euros).

it's always smart to check out the shabby stores every now
and then


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 15:05 [#00414391]
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I'm trying not to develop any new obsessions anymore ;-)
(there are too many as it is!) I'll keep my eyes open for hi
scores, but other than that, i'll be happy when i get
geogaddi + beautiful place.

Instead of a peelsession-cd i'll listen to once or maybe
twice, i'd rather buy something i'll actually enjoy :-D


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-23 15:05 [#00414392]
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thats true, you can usually find a copy or two on ebay, but
they'll usually run you around $30 or more


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-10-23 15:06 [#00414394]
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thats true, you can usually find a copy or two on ebay, but
they'll usually run you around $30 or more


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-23 15:09 [#00414404]
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indeed... i actually started my Aphex Twin-collection in a
free record shop :-D One of those really small ones at a
trainstation even (in r'dam i think)... they had SAW 85-92
in the bargain-basket.

Was also my first idm-cd... so you could say my entire
electronic music-obsession stems from FRS ;-)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-10-23 15:09 [#00414405]
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hey surrounded

i found hi scores

http://www.cdexpress.com/php/gettrackinfo.php?arart=152515&
supp=ecl&aff=10

dunno if its legit, though. i always have the feeling this
cdexpress company pretends to have all cds/records ever
released... :|

but you can always try :)


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-10-23 18:01 [#00414575]
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It has to do with the fact that if you like BoC so much, you
should have/like BDP - Bytes.

I don't care what anyone says, but that album is ahead of
anything by BoC.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-24 09:27 [#00415483]
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i almost never trust those online-stores... except the big
ones.

But anyway... i think i should probably get all their
"regular" releases first, before i start searching for
rarites. It'll make me appreciate the rarites more, if i
eventually get them ;-)

Or maybe hi scores will get a rerelease as well :-D


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-24 09:29 [#00415487]
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ok then, thanks for tip! I'll see if black dog is
represented in the recordstore tomorrow...

Didn't the guys from plaid used to be part of bdp? I only
have one cd by plaid, but i reallly like it :-)


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-10-24 11:00 [#00415546]
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dont worry!
ALL their stuff offers this 'undefinable magic' that you
refer too...

geogaddi has it for sure, as does the beautiful place ep!

even if you dont love them as much as MHTRTC, it will not be
possible for you to be dissapointed... you'll just love them
equally, but maybe in different ways
they will all be special, just like your children!
.....which music has the right to, of course.....


 

offline uviol from United States on 2002-10-24 12:38 [#00415590]
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'In A Beautiful Place..' was weak I thought. 'kid for
today' and 'zoetrope' kick.. the rest.. err.. 'Amo Bishop
Roden' is lovely for the first zillion minutes and then yr
like.. okay, I've heard this little loop a hundred times. I
can barely stand the title track anymore.. a shame since I
used to like it.


 

offline eric_hard_jams on 2002-10-24 13:01 [#00415604]
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stick with what u've got and buy twoism next month!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-10-24 13:23 [#00415622]
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you gotta let us know what you think whne you get it
surrounded!


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2002-10-24 15:53 [#00415748]
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Yeah, Ed and Andy were part of BlackDog. Bytes was a side
project during the late 80's and very early 90's while they
were trying to jumpstart Plaid.

They also worked with Ken Downey, whom is still releasing
material under 'The Black Dog.' Ed and Andy left Black Dog
in 95' after Spanners was completed.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-30 11:02 [#00421749]
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Well hello, I'm back from a couple of days in hell. Hm, to
be honest they were just normal days, but I lost my
internet-connection! (the horror... the horror...). Not
having acces to the internet made me realise how much of an
addict i have become ;-)

Anyway, it feels like the nice people at the helpdesk have
become close personal friends to me, because i talked to
them ALOT. And finally... finally they were able to tell me
to do the right things to "fix" the problem, and everything
seems to be working just fine again... :-)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-30 11:14 [#00421760]
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But at least it has given me plenty of time to listen to
geogaddi! And listen to it alot i did. Maybe it was meant to
be that my computer starting acting strange at this point in
time, because my opinion after having heard the album 1 or 2
times was not positive at all. I could still tell it was
BOC-music, but everything that i loved about mhtrtc seemed
to have dissapeared.

But now that i've listened to the album many many times,
it's all starting to grow on me. It is indeed a wonderful
album, altough much darker than mhtrtc. I have to agree with
zeus on this... if Music... was like a beautiful dream, than
Geogaddi is like the nightmare you have the next night.

All the whispered voices and the sounds that are played
backwards (sunshine recorder!!!!!!!) make the album sound
very sinister.

Even "music is math"... which to me sounds most like 'the
old' BoC (and was infact the only track i already liked the
first time i heard it) sounds darker than anything on
mhtrtc. Sometimes it's like i'm listening to a
horrormovie-soundtrack ;-)

I also think everything sounds much more dense and
layered... more complex... and also harder to get into.
Songs like Dawn Chorus (awesome indeed mr ophecks) and Alpha
And Omega are much more characteristic for the sound of this
album than the mellow tracks i thought were BOC's
speciality.

Well... i'm having a hard time really describing what it
sounds like... but I am liking it! Also, parts of the music
are sometimes starting to pop up in my thoughts (when i'm
not listening to the album), just like they did with
MHTRTC... and i like that alot. It makes me feel like the
album is becoming a part of my life.



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-10-30 11:18 [#00421761]
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Also: yesterday I listened to Music Has the right... again,
and I am glad to report it has lost nothing of it's magic
:-D

I think this is mostly because Geogaddi is such a different
album... it's nothing like "MHTRTC chapter 2"... and i guess
that was what i was afraid of... that the albums would sound
the same, therefor making my beloved Music... album sound
less special. But in fact they are nothing (well not much)
alike.

So no regrets! (phew)


 


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