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Same as me. Why? indeed |
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Yes. A stupid fucking hippy living in a cosy suburbia that was created by the profits of war. Just because you're comfortable in your life doesn't mean that we have to become some peace loving pussies now does it. No. I want war. I want to wave a flag and say "Good Old Britain". I want an enemy. I want people's blood on my hands. With my new home entertainment system with surround sound it'll be like I'm slap bang in the middle of the thing. Come on Britain! Kick some Iraqi butt! |
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That whole circle thing doesn't make sense. |
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Cosy suburbia? Council accomodation mate. Comfortable in my life? Yes thank you. So what the fuck does that have to do with wanting peace? And when have I tried to convert anyone into a peace loving pussy? The aim of this thread was to inform people that if they are against the war, they should use their democratic right and let those in power know, rather than sit on their arses doing nothing. If you want a war that bad, maybe you could get off your arse and sign up for the war effort. Instead of watching it from YOUR cosy existence. Too pussy? Thought so. |
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Irony is a dead scene. |
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Causa Belli by Andrew Motion They read good books, and quote, but never learn a language other than the scream of rocket-burn Our straighter talk is drowned but ironclad; elections, money, empire, oil and Dad. |
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Been there done that. Falklands mate - 1984. Killed 2 fucking argies with my bare hands. Iraq 1991 - Got blinded in one eye. Still fought on. I was out there protecting your life while you were sitting at home have a wank so shut the fuck up mate. |
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Im sure hes appreciative that you killed those argies headed straight for him. |
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Really. If its true, then you do deserve some respect. I certainly wouldn't be killing people in Maggie Thatchers name, nor John Majors'. If you lost an eye, then I feel for you. Of course, if you weren't there, you're a bit of a sad no-mates cunt who gets off on pretending they fought for their country. Either way, you're showing a high level of immaturity in your reasoning. Did you have friends killed in either of these wars? If so, maybe you'll see why war is a bad thing. |
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A stupid fucking hippy living in a cosy suburbia that was created by the profits of war. Just because you're comfortable in your life doesn't mean that we have to become some peace loving pussies now does it. No. I want war. I want to wave a flag and say "Good Old Britain". I want an enemy. I want people's blood on my hands. With my new home entertainment system with surround sound it'll be like I'm slap bang in the middle of the thing. Come on Britain! Kick some Iraqi butt! No sane person would say something like this, you're making tourself look like a complete fool mr. Hicks, hahaha jesus i can't believe this.. Got blinded in one eye. Still fought on well do as ginge says, again join the party! you'll be even more 'slap bang in the middle of the thing' than with your entertainment system with surround sound don't you think an eye for an eye makes everyone blind? |
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Yes it does- if you have an extremely fascistic state, you are judged by your value to society. You are worth only so much as you contribute to others. In this way the forced sense of community is akin to rigid communism. In a communistic society where everyone has to work for others either: a) You make people work and punish them if they don't (similair to the fascistic totalitarian govt.) or b) You let people just do as much work as they want, some people just doss all the time, everyones quality of life declines as a result. In a right wing capitalistic society with a generous welfare state it's the same situation "b)" in the bit about communism. |
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Im not trying to be insesnitive. I am really sorry for your loss. But I dont see how killing people is the best option to solve problems. |
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But your reasoning is based on a distorted view of communism. And people are already forced into work. If they don't work they starve or their benefits are cut. |
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I dont even know where to begin with all of this! With that being said, Im off to bed. |
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goodnight :) |
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But I've seen what happens on small communes- there are people who do a neglible amount of work and take more than they put in. The sort of people who live in communes tend not to be the sort to tell the lazy people to do their share. If I lived on one I'd get them kicked out or at least have a go at them. Instead the other people on the commune just bitch about the lazy people behind their back. People aren't forced to work in the UK. There are plenty of "career dole scum" types- just go to Barry. Very, very few people in the UK starve- those are mainly elderly/mentally ill people. |
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Oh, you're just so now aren't you jonesy. fud. |
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Oh come on. Since Barry docks closed unemployment shot up and there has been nothing to replace it, save jobs in Cardiff. The thing is, you view people as inherently lazy and when you begin at that starting point you'll never trust people to govern themselves. |
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No, I just don't fancy myself as a comedian and don't try to imitate 'heroes' like some silly teenager. |
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I've worked as a labourer, I've worked on Barry Council, I've seen first hand people who do a few months seasonal work a year to stop losing their benefits. I've worked in a factory where one employee was always taking tuesday afternoons off. Turns out he was collecting dole too... I've worked with people who are inherently lazy. If people can have a reasonable quality of life without working, a number of them won't. If I got the same amount of money on dole as I would in this job I wouldn't work. |
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Yeah, but you won't. Dole is a pittance. Corporate fraud, cuts in corporation tax and the ability of the rich to employ accountants to move their money around to avoid paying tax is more of a problem than a few people who are happy to live in poverty on the dole. |
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There is no such thing as dole money. It is a job seekers allowance and as such all people who receive have to actively seek work. |
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No you're right- I do get paid more than people on the dole, but that's because I do a job useful to society. If either a) my wages decreased or b) dole increased, I would give serious thought to going on the dole... I'm going to avoid getting a pension, have my own assets and get a good accountant for "tax avoidance" when I retire. The people on dole still get "money for nothing" even if the rich get "a lot for a little". My quality of life would still improve if people who claimed dole their whole lives never existed... I sound like Dickens' Scrooge now :) |
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It's just too fucking obvious and boring for everyone to go around and say "war is bad". Where the fuck is the argument in that? |
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Ha ha ha! You obviously don't know many people who live on dole! It's really not that hard- cock up interviews, get sacked from whichever job you get set up with, do seasonal work (outdoors in summer seems to be the one of choice), there are lots of ways around it. Having kids practically guarantees that they won't take your benefits away. I'm for a US style system- you can claim 2 years "jobseekers allowance" max during your life. Obviously, if people are injured and genuinely unable to work they should have some form of sustenance from the govt. |
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where is the argument in "war is good" ? i think a minor argument in "war is bad" might be that people get killed or wounded (you must know).. but probably you still say 'war is good' or a such like provocating thing.. funny that you always disagree with people |
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Go back to your Hicks' CDs and think of something else 'funny' to say. Something REALLY provocative and ever so gob-smackingly controversial. |
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haha yeah don't let us down bill we know you can do a lot better than I want war. I want to wave a flag and say "Good Old Britain". I want an enemy. I want people's blood on my hands. that's so ridiculous that no-one will believe it, do your best and try to think of something else :) good luck bill |
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hm he left, probably to come back with some kind of pro-Al-Quaeda statement.. no on second thoughts.. he pro-USA (and thus pro-war) man this is confusing, i'll never understand him, imo he's either mentally handicapped or being world greatest comedian, since the latter occupation is already fulfilled i'd figure the first.. |
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jonesy, you are so earnest it makes me literally squirm in my seat. Lighten up a bit, man. |
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stop the war to start wich one?? errggghhh watch your back ! a bomb !! |
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Morton, I'm not going to criticise anything you say because my knowledge of dutch is worse than your knowledge of english. Not much worse, but worse. On the plus side though, I do find your comments Inadvertently amusing. |
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Splish. :> |
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hahaha that's rather easy.. maybe you didn't have anything to say left ey..? you can post it in english mr, i'll have it translated to dutch, 'cause i really don't understand a word of the english language btw thank you very much for your compliment, you're too kind |
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Are you unaware of the importance of being earnest? Boom, boom. |
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:) you're the only one always complaining about my english bill.. maybe..just maybe (probably not of course 'cause it's me who's saying it) it's just you :P |
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RE: This being ridiculous "I want an enemy. I want people's blood on my hands." You may not believe it, but it in one of the prayers used in the Uk armed forces it asks for "a strong and willing enemy". Funny, eh? That said, I think Bill is on the wind up... |
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that avatar.... that avatar...... *thinks* yes! i know him!!! whoa spikee i have to admit that was the hottest shemale to pick ;) |
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could be.. still think it's a ridiculous thing to say, don't you? |
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i always took you for an oscar wilde fan, if you catch my drift. |
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Saddam doesn't dare to use his weapons of mass destruction on America's allies because he had them during the full scale attack on Iraq and didn't use them, simply because he was affraid of being nuked himself... Now look at North Korea, America thinks it can resolve this conflict the diplomatic way and that country is practicly parading the weapons of mass-destruction... I think it's an attack without any respect for the old value that war should only be the very last option. And I think it's highly arrogant to think you can't be hurt back and do as you please. All I can see coming out of this is a massive increase of terrorists, a conflict between Turkey and Iraq over the kurdish territories, a million refugees, huge casualties, destroyed cities, more poverty and burning oil(if saddam decided to set fire to the oilfields). Of course I hate Saddam just as much as the pro-attack people but the situation isn't simply resolved with an attack and the risks are huge. |
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Yep, He is a hottie. |
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agreed dude :) well argumentated |
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I have too many mates in the forces to take the mick too much, but you're right- that is a ridiculous thing to say :) |
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I catch yo drift an' I got yo asssssssss |
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It looks like we are drawing ever closer to a war that I truely thought we were going to avoid... my boss got a call this morning from his daughter, saying that her husband has been called up... hes a reservist.. and not a medical one. This didnt even happen during the last gulf war. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN TRUELY BELIEVE THAT KILLING MORE INNOCENTS WILL SOLVE ANYTHING. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/02/voices _from_iraq/html/adhami.stm |
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