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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-12-26 13:27 [#00491771]
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started out as a pegan holiday, and king constantine didn't like his people celebrating their pegan holiday because he was christian so he decides "I know, I'll tell them it's jesus birthday and they have to celebrate it" which he just pulled that day out of his butt really.
it's more much likely jesus was born in june so I've been told.
so christmas started out pegan, became christian through a lie, and is now based on greed. how fitting.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-26 13:29 [#00491773]
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yes, that is rather fitting. The tree came about by the converting of old Germanic tribes who worshipped trees.
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xceque
on 2002-12-26 13:34 [#00491778]
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This may be true, but I'm not going to give back my 4DVD of Lord of the Rings cos of it.
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DonkeyRhubarb
from Saegertown, PA (United States) on 2002-12-26 13:35 [#00491779]
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what jerks people are
indeed, my little bros got those LOTR dvds
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-12-26 13:35 [#00491781]
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...till santa came along and started giving out presents like theres no tomorrow....and lets not forget Coca cola's influence :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-26 13:36 [#00491783]
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Is there a connection between what John said and the LOTR DVDs? I haven't got them so I'm not being facetious.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-12-26 13:37 [#00491785]
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Of course santa likes coke! How else is he to travel the globe delivering gifts in just a single night!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-26 14:06 [#00491805]
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the encyclopedia explains a lot about the REAL origins of all the christmas 'thingies' like santa claus, the tree, exchanging gifts, etc.
and most pagans know that it is a pagan holiday dressed up to be a christian one. so are most so-called christian holidays....so many of the traditions, etc..are pagan in origin.
tis interesting to read about it....=0)
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-12-26 14:09 [#00491806]
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The yule log is a pagan tradition as well i think.
..just my 2 qrters
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-12-26 14:13 [#00491811]
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yeah and who actually gives a toss about getting a yule log?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2002-12-26 14:14 [#00491812]
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everyone in my village
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2002-12-26 14:16 [#00491814]
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i love tossing logs
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-26 14:16 [#00491815]
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hehehheh
yes yes pomme.....tis true.....all the 'traditions' associated with christmas have pagan origins
*what is a yule log.....isn't it just a log for the fire?*
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Bob Mcbob
on 2002-12-26 14:24 [#00491819]
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haha yeah theres that side of it...
Christmas is really about love and presents and refreshing cola and stuff, ive never seen anyone have a log
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-12-26 14:27 [#00491823]
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Same with Easter , it comes from the european heathens celebrating "Eostre" , a germanian godess in the spring.
Christian misionaries moving among the rugged pagan tribes after Rome fell created alot of fusions , and i don't blame them hehe! Killing christians was a popular hobby at the time , best to go gently with the teachings.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2002-12-26 16:06 [#00491891]
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It ain't really like Christians are hiding that fact
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Vit C
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-26 16:23 [#00491899]
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Jesus was born in June ? Where did you hear this?
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