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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-19 19:54 [#00486258]
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i love this guy's words.....just amazing and inspiring!
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being the more joy you can contain.
Is not the cup that holds your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's
oven?
-Kahlil Gibran, mystic, poet, and artist (1883-1931)
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-12-19 19:57 [#00486260]
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I'm scared of the potters cup! but
In english terms...........you've made you're bed. than lay in it.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-19 20:02 [#00486264]
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INtersting analogy i think!
=0)
*hand you a glass of wine*
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2002-12-19 20:06 [#00486266]
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That's not fair! I'm not going to drink your silly wine full stop!!!!
I know my flakes from silly wine provocicattion!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-19 20:10 [#00486269]
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flakes?
what are those........could they be elusive mythical creatures that do NOT exist?
*i think so* ^__^
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2002-12-19 20:19 [#00486278]
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I can contain a whole crap load of joy then - JOY!!!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-19 21:26 [#00486304]
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The deeper that sorrow carves into your being the more joy you can contain.
Why sure! Ask any victim of war crimes who has watched loved ones getting gangraped and bayoneted. They'll tell you it's the greatest joy of all.
Rwandans who have had limbs macheted off their living torsos? They're simply aglow with delight.
And you know what they call the children's cancer ward in any major hospital? That's right: The Happiest Place on Earth.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-12-19 22:24 [#00486323]
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Hehehe, I remember one a friend told me..
"Gravity should not be held responsible for people who fall in love"
-Albert Einstien-
:)
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jabizzy
from St. Louis, Misery. Er, that's (United States) on 2002-12-19 22:32 [#00486331]
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Kahlil Gibran!!! aaaaahhh!
LeCoeur you are the most awesome!
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-19 22:40 [#00486343]
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fleetmouse, it's not a law of existence; it doesn't have to apply to those situations. i know some who have grown up in relative poverty that live a more joyous life than many of the sad snobs from west bloomington (nearby wealthy area) that i've known. it's an ancient archtypal process... the ecstasy and the agony. it's an archetype found in poetry and mythology of all cultures. journey of the wounded healer, decend to the underworld so that one may rise to heaven. experiencing a negative extreme opens up potential for the postive extreme, but it's not a "rule," just a potential.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-20 06:29 [#00486675]
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What does relative poverty mean? Does it mean their cars are not as nice? That must really carve that sorrow into their being.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2002-12-20 06:42 [#00486687]
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"Camus wrote like a man who had just finished a large dinner of steak and french fries, salad, and had topped it with a bottle of good French wine. Humanity may have been suffering but not him. A wise man, perhaps, but Henry preferred someone who screamed when they burned."
Charles Bukowski, Hot Water Music
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-20 08:02 [#00486716]
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fleet...it's really saying joy & sorrow are relative...you get thru shit in life & when some joy finally appears it's all the more welcome & savoured...
that's just one way of thinking about it...
cheers Lec BTW...never heard of that guy before...*jand hangs head in cultural shame..;)...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-12-20 08:08 [#00486717]
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"You get thru shit in life & when some joy finally appears it's all the more welcome & savoured"
I know this feeling well.
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uzim
on 2002-12-20 10:09 [#00486781]
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i like your quote LeCoeur...
i think it's like an elastic, the deeper you pull it on the side of sorrow the deeper it will come into happiness when you release it?
(but of course if you pull it too far into sorrow... it breaks and it's over.)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-12-20 11:54 [#00486830]
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fleet.....i think you took the quote outta context. it was meant to be a positive thing......it's a few simple words, it has nothing to do with the examples you brought out. those kind of tragedies are on a whole other level.
jup.....you explained it beautifully. thanks
jand....glad you liked the quote. Gibran is an amazing writer you should check him out, i'm sure there's something on line or in your local library. you'll enjoy his work. i have LOTS more quotes of his coming up. =0)
uzim...glad you enjoyed it as well...and sadly yes i'd have to agree with your assessment of it breaking and ending.
hopefully that person or their friends or family will see the warning signs and get them help. there is hope outthere, you just have to be willing to look for it.
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2002-12-20 12:02 [#00486843]
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Alas! I am now two years old!
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2002-12-20 13:43 [#00486971]
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Harry Potter, you must not go to hogwarts this semester......... there is great danger....
Dobby wont let you go....
... bad Dobyy, bad Dobby
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2002-12-22 12:36 [#00488050]
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fleet, do you honestly not know what the term means, or are just being an ass? i'm talking about homeless people who certainly don't own an automobile and who don't get to eat three meals a day, as opposed to absolute poverty where people will likely starve to death. i don't know that there is absolute poverty in america.
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