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offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 14:51 [#00435747]
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I have a new track up on my zebox-site, called
"schaap".

please have a listen and give your feedback :)
thanks.

-->muzirkk<--


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-11-10 14:55 [#00435749]
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qrter-----page not displayed :-(


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-10 14:55 [#00435750]
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The page cannot be displayed, indeed!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 14:59 [#00435756]
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yes.. :P

I kind of put an extra "w" in "www".. HA HA!

sorry 'bout that..

anyway, try this one:

-->muzirkk (2.0)<--


 

offline Clic on 2002-11-10 15:01 [#00435760]
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Oh man, I thought for a second ZeBOX went under again. I'm
getting the tune now.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2002-11-10 15:03 [#00435764]
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im also gettin the tune qrter


 

offline Amonbrune from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-11-10 15:05 [#00435769]
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if only those two cyclists could get those helmets off they
could finally kiss eachother!! they look like they're
really trying. man oh man...if only they could figure it
out!

HEY YOU TWO...IF YOU TAKE OFF YOUR HELMETS YOU COULD KISS!!


:S oh man i hope they know what to do...


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 15:05 [#00435770]
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lol, is the track called "schaap" or "schaar"? It's quite a
difference ;-)

I'm listening to it know. Reminds me a little of fennesz,
but i'm only in the first seconds... tell you more when it's
finished.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 15:19 [#00435779]
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okay i liked it. The track made me rather nervous though ;-)
If that's what you set out to do, you managed it...

It sounds like the beauty is coming from very far away, and
you can just hear it inbetween all the noise... i like that.
Had to listen to it a few times before i could make out the
melody, but now i'm getting it... yeah... nice song.

It still reminds me of fennesz. You probably already know
him, but if you don't you should check that out :-) I can
almost guarantee you'll love it!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 16:21 [#00435820]
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its called "schaar". don't read too much in the title..

anyway, thanks for listening!
the danger of this track is that the "noise" obliterates all
- I do like to play around with that..

I've heard of fennesz, never actually heard anything by him.
I'll give it a listen. :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 17:31 [#00435849]
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oh petty :-p I thought Schaap was a really cool title for a
song ;-)

Yeah, i've always liked songs where the melody is not right
upfront and the first thing you notice... it's often better
(i think) if you only notice it after a while because it's
obscured by other elements. A subtle melody instead of a
grotesque one.

I think it's quite impressive for you to be able to write
this song without having heard fennesz :-p I only have his
album 'endless summer'... which sounds softer and more
"dreamy" than your Schaar, but still the way he handles his
melodies and his noises is similar to you, i thought.


 

offline hepburnenthorpe from sydney (Australia) on 2002-11-10 17:38 [#00435855]
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goin to get it now.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2002-11-10 17:41 [#00435860]
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That's funny, isn't it? That a half-heard or obscured melody
can be so much more emotionally affecting than a blatant
one, hmmmm?

To me the veiled melodies in a lot of really good electronic
music aren't necessarily better as melodies than anything in
pop music; it's the way you're forced to approach them that
makes you appreciate them more deeply. They come as a relief
from a thicket of noise, or like a revelation that made you
rewire your brain to understand it.



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 17:55 [#00435869]
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Mark Linkous (of sparklehorse... i guess many people here
won't know who the hell that is... hehe) once said in an
interview that the most beautiful songs he has ever heard
are the ones coming through the open kitchen-window from his
neighbours' house, slightly obscured by the wind and
mutilated by all the background noises. :-) (just listen to
his song Chaos Of The Galaxy/Happy Man to hear what
he means).

They come as a relief from a thicket of noise, or like a
revelation that made you rewire your brain to understand
it.


yes! Or maybe it is because you cannot hear 100% of the
melody, and you have to use your own imagination to fill in
the missing parts. I know i always do that when listening to
fennesz... in my mind i hear alot more in that music than
what's actually on the cd!

I haven't really been listening to alot of autechre yet, but
the songs on Gantz Graf (their only release that i have)
seem to have that same effect on me... really nice :-)



 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2002-11-10 18:01 [#00435873]
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What sparklehorse do you recommend to a newbie ? I heard
them live as a supporting act to Dave Gilmour in London but
their sound rig was fucked and the excess bass killed the
tunes. :(


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2002-11-10 18:02 [#00435875]
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Good track qrtr. I like the beginning. However as the song
continued it started to lose my attention. But I give it a
thumbs up as anything is better than whats on the radio
nowadays.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:10 [#00435881]
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the one i mentioned above is particularly great... Chaos
of the Galaxy/Happy Man
it seems to sum up alot of
things i love about sparklehorse

Also:

spirit ditch (so beautiful...)
heart of darkness
maria's little elbows
painbirds


and his louder side:

tears on fresh fruit
ghost of his smile
sick of goodbyes


The quiet songs are more special to me, i'd recommend those
first. But sometimes you just wanna rock :-D Sparklehorse
can help you with that too!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:11 [#00435882]
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thanks weatheredstoner. I can see how that (losing
attention) can happen, I guess.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:12 [#00435883]
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jesus! I just now saw that I had written "schaap" as
a title in my initial message.. how dumb is that?!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:12 [#00435885]
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by the way...

their sound rig was fucked and the excess bass killed the
tunes. :(


that sucks :-(
The best sparklehorse-gigs are when the audience is
completely quiet, and the sound is crystal-clear... :-)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:16 [#00435893]
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hehe, yes indeed! The r and the p are miles
apart on your keyboard ;-) how'd you manage to get those
confused? :-p
Maybe it's your unconscious telling you you should name the
song Schaap...

I also listened to your other track a bit, but i had to turn
the volume down really low (people are trying to sleep here
;-)), so i couldn't really hear well... it sounded nice
though, i'll try again tomorrow :-)


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-10 18:17 [#00435895]
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it was kind of nice. but ia must say i liked "me dit" more
(migth just be that my ears are pretty fucked n cant take
any noise). and my direct tougths is: fuck the irritating
repetativ sound in the backgroud, both of the track would be
much better without them, but thats just my opinion.


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-10 18:18 [#00435897]
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sorry... met dit


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:18 [#00435898]
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yeah I really don't know! I guess I've been tired like hell
for the last MONTH and I have so much to do for
school and then I couldn't upload to Zebox because of my
firewall which took me ages to figure out etc. etc.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:19 [#00435900]
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mm.. which noise do you mean exactly..? (implying that there
a lot of potential irritating repeating noises in the
background to have fukked.. :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:26 [#00435910]
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yeah i understand... i've been there before... staying up
'till 4 am working on some report due the next day... then
almost falling asleep with your head on the keyboard, hehe
;-)

One time when i read back the next day what i had written
that night, it ended with a part about little pink
elephants... :-s (and i can garantue my project was not
about little pink elephants!)... it was so weird... like i
had already started dreaming but was still typing... i
remember it was a confusing night... trying to fight my
sleep, but i do not remember typing that strange part...

So yeah... turning a schaar into a schaap doesn't seem so
bad :-p


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-10 18:27 [#00435913]
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in both the tracks u have a clicking sound repeating, trough
all the the track. somthing like a beat.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:32 [#00435921]
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oh okay.. yeah, I like those... so I guess I'll keep those
;)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:34 [#00435923]
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I have to hand in the first 3 pages of a short story
tomorrow morning.. and I can't really concentrate.. still,
its going quite alright.. I shall get back on it now.. I'm a
good little soldier..


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:37 [#00435926]
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quit hanging around on this messageboard then :-p

I can guarantee this won't help you concentrate! But good
luck with your story man :-) At least that sounds like a fun
assignment.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 18:40 [#00435930]
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it isn't when you've had 2 weeks, have done nothing, are
dying of sleep (the month thing was NO exaggeration) and
have class at 10 am..

anyway, you are right, I'll go..

but I'll BE BACK!!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:43 [#00435935]
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*doesn't reply anymore to encourage qrter to get some work
done*


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-10 18:50 [#00435943]
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The repeating pattern part sounded like it could be built up
ala tri repetae into something really neat. The noise part
was interesting but I think these two parts could work
better seperately as individual tracks rather than having
them try to complement eachother. All the sounds sound like
the color grey sort of.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-10 18:52 [#00435948]
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*rather than trying to have them complement...* .... since
THEY aren't really even capable of trying...


 

offline Apt_Zet from Afghanistan on 2002-11-10 19:13 [#00435975]
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Great track man. I really liked it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 19:37 [#00436029]
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thanks Apt_Zet..

w M w:

"All the sounds sound like the color grey sort of."
that probably hits the nail on the head. the sounds,
although maybe not complementing eachother, are a bit
'sameish'. I'll have to work on that/at that.

"*rather than trying to have them complement...* ....
since THEY aren't really even capable of trying...

maybe not (I don't think I agree with you), but I don't
think they DO have to complement eachother in the way that
you imply. I think the contrast can be interesting enough on
itself.
and somehow I did think you would like the noisy part.. :)

I'm going back to writing now, surrounded, although I'm
almost done, its going really well :)



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-10 19:45 [#00436043]
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It was too subtle and unimportant to notice but the purpose
of my second post was to change this sentence:
"...rather than having them try to complement eachother."
into
"rather than trying to have them complement eachother."
(moved the word "trying" since the unconscious PARTS aren't
capable of trying.) eh heh heh

Don't worry you'll be back in a few minutes rather than
doing your assignment.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-10 19:47 [#00436050]
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shit. you are right.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 09:44 [#00436865]
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bump dis shit.. :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 12:38 [#00437206]
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so did you finnish your assignment already or what? :-p

(i hope you were also able to get some sleep)

I'm listening to "met dit" right now (thru headphones :-))
and i like it alot, better than "schaar" imo. I must say i
actually enjoy the constant ticking/clicking throughout the
song (funnily enough it reminds me of the sound of scissors
;-)).



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 12:57 [#00437222]
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yeah I did. only thing was, I went to sleep about 5 o'clock
and then I woke up at 17:30... I had to phone the
telephone-clock-woman to check I was seeing that right.. my
sleeping is all over the place the last month or so.. so I
guess I had some catching up to do.. : s

and thanks.. I think "met dit" is one of my own favourites,
thats also why I left in on my zebox..


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:03 [#00437225]
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Oh my god :-p I said some sleep, not lots of sleep,
hehe.

So is your hearing and taste of smell better now? (because
seriously, this reminds me of the nap Jack Nicholson had in
that movie wolf)

I think my record stands at... uh... 16:00 hours... i've
never slept until 17:30... i can imagine your shock! But
wasn't the school closed by then? I seem to remember you had
to turn in that story today...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-11 13:10 [#00437230]
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alittle too much distortion/noise for my taste, but i did
like what you were doing beneth the noise.

nice.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 13:14 [#00437233]
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yeah well, it doesn't have to be finished yet.. I'm going to
phone one of my classmates later on..

I slept about 12 hours I guess. it feels like I missed a
day.. : /
I'm listening to that Sparklehorse track you mentioned now..
very nice.. the beginning of the track sounds familiar -
has it been used in a film or something?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-11 13:15 [#00437234]
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thanks Zeus. I still don't know if I myself don't think
there's too much noise there..


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-11-11 13:17 [#00437235]
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its kind of cool, in that you really have to pay attention
to hear the details that are behind the noise, but on the
other hand, its not the easiest of listens.

Not something to relax to :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:25 [#00437238]
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you probably won't be able to fall asleep tonight i guess...
:-s It sucks when your dayrhytm is messed up like that.

cool that you like the sparklehorse-track :-) I've never
heard it in any film... but who knows? It's possible i
suppose.

I was listening to that album earlier tonight... it is
really great... The moment in that song (galaxy chaos/happy
man) when the noise clears up and the song becomes clearer
always leaves me feeling a little bittersweet...

On the one hand i wished he would have kept it noisy and
obscured for the entire track. But on the other hand it is a
really powerful moment! It always puts a big grin on my
face... it's like suddenly you stepped into the room where
sparklehorse is playing, and before you were hearing the
music from another room... i love it! The entire song!



 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-11 13:27 [#00437240]
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its not the easiest of listens.

now that is true! (for both tracks), they are very nice, but
you really have to make an effort to appreciate them. i
kinda like specifically that aspect though...


 


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