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US HELP SEND HELP NOW S O S S.O.S. Ok, first let me get this straight. Bush, I don't mind him, I actually am glad we got someone with BALLS to get some real work done, instead of sitting on all this technology waiting for something to happen to us. All you people out there who hate him (including me at times), well, he IS your President, and sometimes you just have to follow that. My prime example is the show (now cancelled i beleive) on Comedy Central called "That's My Bush" where they just mock the Pres. all throughout the show. Kthx,,,I'd like to see you try doing that in Cuba. Where else could the people watch a TV show ripping on the stupidity of their very own President. Fucking pop culture, some people take things too far I feel. Bush this Bush that. STFU, 1/2 of you voted him in. You're fault (oh wait, you're prolly one of those people who "don't vote because their 1 single vote doesn't matter." kthxagain...next please. Get the fuck out then. Bush is our leader, and we should treat him with some respect. I'd like to see you mock your leader in another country, but then again we are "free" so that's USA-AOK.....Sigh, All Americans seem to do is complain now. If it's not one thing, it's another. Sorry, it's kinda hard pleasing 250million people, you must be qualified to do a better job. Feast..... |
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i don't really want to respond to this...but you make a hell of a lot of assumptions about people. |
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is this some kind of reply to me? |
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About people? Hell you must not be living in the US. (*hint*hint, that was an _assumption_*) :p |
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as·sump·tion Pronunciation Key (-smpshn) n. The act of taking to or upon oneself: assumption of an obligation. The act of taking possession or asserting a claim: assumption of command. The act of taking for granted: assumption of a false theory. Something taken for granted or accepted as true without proof; a supposition: a valid assumption. Presumption; arrogance. Logic. A minor premise. Assumption |
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i'm not sure if you're joking or retarded, but it says "from United States" after my screenname. so no need to assume. |
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yeah, I agree with you, but I also love Amendment #1. I do feel that if people are so pissed off at the country, they should feel free to leave. Would fucking reduce traffic too. I love this country, but I don't like the idea of one party controlling the house/senate/oval office. soooooo, you take your lumps: I don't mind bush at all, he doesn't speak well, but like you said, pleasing 275 million people is hard. |
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"Where else could the people watch a TV show ripping on the stupidity of their very own President" England. We rip the shit out of Bush all the time. |
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theres a small thing called checks and balances that is supposed to ensure balance of power in this country. that balance has been disrupted with this recent election. i see some major problems on the horizon. |
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Not yr own president then, is it? :D sorry.. |
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We won't get into politics and war cause that will lead down the drain, so I won't even go there. Point being, you (we) voted him in. Nuff said. Even though I may not feel the greatest for my pres, he IS my Pres, and I will follow him. Some people live out where politics will never touch them, so it is easy to make discriminating factors upon things and ideas. |
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well Mr. Bush seems to think he is, sometimes.. ;) |
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S.O.S. THIS SHIP IS SINKING SELL SELL IT ALL NOW SELL SELL SELL THIS SHIP IS GOING DOWN DUMP THOSE SHARES! |
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most first world countries do have a lot of political mockery in the media and literature |
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part of the beauty of america is that we can reject those who would seek to run our country. we do this through public speaking or writing or demostrations, so i have no problem with someone saying they hate bush. i hate bush. i didn't vote for him. i'm seventeen, couldn't have voted if i tried. this country is supposedly based upon a social contract that states that if we are unhappy with a ruler, we have the right to speak out against him. thats all these people are doing, no reason to kick them out of the country. |
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firstly, I'm not an American, so this all outsider perspective. I do think Bush is an arse, but I have a few problems with your general logic.. "All you people out there who hate him (including me at times), well, he IS your President, and sometimes you just have to follow that." why? "Where else could the people watch a TV show ripping on the stupidity of their very own President." sounds okay to me. freedom of speech and all that. and ofcourse thats what you get when you elect someone like that ;) "Bush is our leader, and we should treat him with some respect." you deserve a prize of some sorts for that one. can you say that out loud without shitting your pants laughing..? |
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i dont understand ur country neither but mostly i dont understand fucking 2002 brain-zombified society! :( |
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qrter No one will ever be completely satisfied with their leader. Impossible - but sometimes you just have to put faith in people. Can't do it? Fine, your opinion vs mine = null, void, nothx...etc If you keep bitching, nothing will be solved. havn't you learned anything from plato? |
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GO MTV GO CNN GO FRIENDS GO MOCKERY! |
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GOBOTS |
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i think reading this thread killed 45 brain cells |
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yeah okay, but saying "respect your leader" is something completely different.. |
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repsect my author-a-ti |
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"Bush is our leader, and we should treat him with some respect." No. |
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um, how can you respect someone that wants war? how can you respect a dick head? & someone that probably wasn't even voted in... |
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this guy started talking to me on the train once about bush "i'm not going to respect him because he's the president, he's still a citizen, and he's a fucking asshole" |
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yeah well and just the idea that because someone says he is your leader you should automatically respect him.. even after its clear he's a dumb ass who you wouldn't ever respect anyway.. |
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right on... people that catch trains rule |
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The man has trouble forming sentences for christ's sake. |
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well, we have an arrogant son of a bitch for a leader up here... he thinks he's untouchable because he's been prime minister for three terms... he gets on my nerves he's such a fucking idiot... |
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and really, sure half the population of the US (well, half that voted) voted for Bush... but as far as I know you have no say in who is the candidate for each party... so, really you don't have much of a choice... you have a choice between two (well more I guess with Nader and that other guy) candidates who are chosen for you... not much of a choice... and I find it really stupid that Al Gore won the popular vote, yet he isn't the president... not that he'd be any better, but still, he was voted president by the people, yet he isn't president... that's fucking stupid! |
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fine, i cant put my arguement into precise words, it does sound wrong, goes against democracy i give up i hate things you can't type,,persay....good day gentlemen |
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i hate that mona lisa smiley smirk he has - it make me wanna slap his face with a chainsaw |
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i jsut get sick of ppl ripping on him. when they are the ones who put him there. |
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I didn't vote for his ass. |
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if no one voted for him, how did he get elected? kthx seems like 1/10 ppl i talk to didn't vote for him fuck thatdoesn't add up |
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he didn't win the popular vote..! |
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I see what yr saying.. whether he should or shouldn't be in the office is debateable, but it's also a done deal. We should support and to some extent respect him for that. Doesn't mean we have to like him or agree with him.. but we should still be supportive. Maybe you think he's an asshole, alot of people do. I'm not a big fan myself. Still, unless he muffs up completely and becomees obviously corrupt, I think Americans should put aside their grudges and make the best of what they've got. So vote for 'Gore in 4' as they say.. but make the best of what happened, whether you like Bush or not. |
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thank you that is basically waht i was trying to say rather than just respecting him BECAUSE he is our current leader. |
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one way of making the best of it IS voicing your disagreement, be it via satire or bitchin' or whatever. |
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Agreed.. protest and peristence is displaying dissatisfaction is a more than valid means of righting wrongs.. I was more addressing the pointless and non-constructive bitching that goes on and on and tears down the president without actually helping anyone out. Nothing wrong with catharsis either.. like i said I am not Bush's biggest supporter either. It's just when there's no attempt to make things better or show any measly hint of 'patriotism' or support that it gets old and gratuitous. |
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Dead Kennedys - Stars And Stripes of Corruption Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night I couldn't wait I headed straight for the Capitol Mall My heart began to pound Yahoo! It really exists The American International Pictures logo I looked up at that Capitol Building Couldn't help but wonder why I felt like saying "Hello, old friend" Walked up the hill to touch it Then I unzipped my pants And pissed on it when nobody was looking Like a great eternal Klansman With his two flashing red eyes Turn around he's always watching The Washington monument pricks the sky With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom The symbols of our heritage Lit up proudly in the night Somehow fits to see the homeless people Passed out on the lawn So this is where it happens The power games and bribes All lobbying for a piece of ass Of the stars and stripes of corruption Makes me feel so ashamed To be an American When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes Trying to start another Viet Nam Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the Japanese" "America's back," alright At the game it plays the worst Strip mining the world like a slave plantation No wonder others hate us And the Hitlers we handpick To bleed their people dry For our evil empire The drug we're fed To make us like it Is God and country with a band People we know who should know better Howl, "America riles. Let's go to war!" Business scams are what's worth dying for Are the Soviets our worst enemy? We're destroying ourselves instead Who cares about our civil rights As long as I get paid? The blind Me-Generation Doesn't care if life's a lie so easily used, so proud to enforce The stars and stripes of corruption Let's bring it all down! Tell me who's the real patriots The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags? Or the people with the guts to work For some real change Rednecks and bombs |
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Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves Our real test of strength is caring Not the toys of war we sell the world Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms Old glory for a blanket As you suck on your thumbs Real freedom scares you 'Cos it means responsibility So you chicken out and threaten me Saying, "Love it or leave it" I'll get beat up if I criticize it You say you'll fight to the death To save your worthless flag If you want a banana republic that bad Why don't you go move to one But what can just one of us do? Against all that money and power Trying to crush us into roaches? We don't destroy society in a day Until we change ourselves first From the inside out We can start by not lying so much And treating other people like dirt It's easy not to base our lives On how much we can scam And you know It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs I'm thankful I live in a place Where I can say the things I do Without being taken out and shot So I'm on guard against the goons Trying to take my rights away We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws Let kids learn communication Instead of schools pushing competition How about more art and theater instead of sports? People will always do drugs Let's legalize them Crime drops when the mob can't price them Budget's in the red? Let's tax religion No one will do it for us We'll just have to fix ourselves Honesty ain't all that hard Just put Rambo back inside your pants Causing trouble for the system is much more fun Thank you for the toilet paper But your flag is meaningless to me Look around, we're all people Who needs countries anyway? Our land, I love it too I think I love it more than you I care enough to fight The stars and stripes of corruption Let's bring it all down! If we don't try If we just lie If we can't find A way to do it better than this Who will? |
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(god and country with a bang that should say) |
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jesus, lots of typos in that. "america rules, let's go to war" it should say... |
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I think that some people just make fun of bush because it's cool. I don't mean anyone here tho. Coz I think he is actually being a bit stupid (but then again I'm not political minded enough to really bother taking in all the information about all this and hence don't have enough information to build a proper opinion) I think americans should give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. I think he has probably proven otherwise, but that's only my opinion, I don't feel too strongly about it. I try to stay out of policial debates, as they can start fights really easily. oh well, best of luck america, i hope no wars start etc, and while i dont liek your prez, most of you people seem pretty cool :) from od in australia |
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uviol: he has been "obviously corrupt" (his business ties) long before coming into office. |
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oh yeah, wasn't this elusive's argument?? :) anyway.. You're a little out of my league now, I am not very familiar with Bush's past. I'm aware that he's had a partly shady one, though. However, what I meant was that while he's been in office, I anyway have not heard of anything to make me believe he's evil or overly corrupt. If he keeps running a reasonably clean presidency and keeps making reasonable decisions.. then I think we shouldn't hold the past against him unless there's a serious threat of it resurfacing in a way that would prove malevolent to the nation. When he starts making irresposible decisions and has kinky affairs in the oval office and starts WW3 and starts endangering the US citizens.. then let's start bitching and protesting. Until then, I say we live with it. elusive, you take over! :) |
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War on Terrorism... Bin Laden being in afghanistan, okay... But instead of sending in special units to eliminate him, afghanistan gets partially destroyed. Then, we realise the TRUE goal of this action, wiping out the Taliban. After afghanistan being demolished, the UN can once again clear up the mess america made. But wait, there's more! What I seen on CNN is that america thought Bin Laden was in IRAQ!!! What a coicidence! So the war on terrorism continues! Now a final thought: I've seen a war in yugoslavia, and in iraq (on TV thank god). But what I also see is that the US keep trying to get in war with IRAQ. In yugoslavia, they did nothing. why? OIL! thats the whole fucking issue! They want IRAQ to have a democratic government, read pro-american. |
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have any of you 'mericans travelled much outside the states? Seen how other cultures statirise, make-fun-of or laugh at, their chosen governments? there is a wide and varied spectrum of ways to do it and cheap-shot, lowest common denominator humour is always the one to stir up shit. I've heard some quite sophisticated radio-satire in the states on your government that could not be argued with... MTC, Jackass type cynicism is pure crappy and only appeals to teens who don't know what the story is really. Try paying attention to some intelligent fucking debates instead of getting all annoyed at some asshole with cracker-jack jokes. Thankfully in this part of the world we have the BBC and here, some hilarious radio comedy, to challenge and amuse us in times of questionable government policy. Bring it up a notch people! |
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