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I DONT UNDERSTAND MY COUNTRY!!!
 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-07 04:08 [#00431510]
Points: 1722 Status: Regular



Americans are just...
weird.
I think if it would be US versus arabic, the US would lose.



 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-11-07 04:26 [#00431518]
Points: 1912 Status: Lurker



bush is wack yo!


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:27 [#00431519]
Points: 413 Status: Lurker



Plato was a fucking wanker, democracy is a fucking wank
idea.

Are you fucking people serius? Are you just plane fucking
stupid? Retarded? What the fuck is your problem?

I mean it's just hillarius to read wtf you peeps saying. No
wounder the world look like it does, but who the fuck give a
fuck anyway. I do not live in the us and Im fucking glad of
that.


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:28 [#00431521]
Points: 413 Status: Lurker



Word Tea!


 

offline Binaural Tea from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2002-11-07 04:37 [#00431533]
Points: 1912 Status: Lurker



hey selfequiv, get online with your icq..


 

offline selfequiv from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:39 [#00431536]
Points: 413 Status: Lurker



Cool, are you still fucking sick or what?


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-07 04:40 [#00431537]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



anyone take my point?

this is ONE dumbed-down thread.
Holy crappolla!



 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 04:40 [#00431538]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular | Followup to selfequiv: #00431536



I saw a video with that in once.

once.


 

offline Flunitrazepam from Lisbon (Portugal) on 2002-11-07 04:44 [#00431542]
Points: 27 Status: Lurker



"Where else could the people watch a TV show ripping on the

stupidity of their very own President"
Portugal. We rip the shit out of our president, prime
minister and other politics all the time.

"Bush is our leader, and we should treat him with some
respect."
he's not mine... i dont treat him with respect. why should
i?

I know some americans and the general idea that i've got
from you is that you think that you have a great freedom and
you should fight for it and you are all very proud of being
americans and having a history of.. what.. 100.. 200 ( i
dont know ) years.. u.s.a. really sucks, and your
president.. well.. i shouldn't even comment your post...

hmmm.. maybe war IS in your vains..


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-07 04:56 [#00431547]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



i agree with Flun. For fuck sake, your chosen governemnt is
the peoples servent, not the other way around!

My mother moved to Phoenix, AZ 8 years ago and she was made
feel extremely isolated by her neighbours because she would
not take citizenship. Some bloody freedom that is. I don't
know any other democratic country that is so bloody
self-praising.

Imagine a room full of people waving their own flag at each
other saying "aren't we great! Have you got a flag, I have a
flag too... aren't we swell?!"It's pathetic.

what is worse, a state that denies information and makes its
citizens ignorant... or a democratic state where the
governemnt manioulates its people with fan-fair, hype,
ultra-patriatism and dogma. Thank fuck my country and most
European countries are neither.

Wake fucking up America!


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2002-11-07 07:08 [#00431644]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



"fool me once...shame on...shame on you...that means..."

- GWB

g dubyah is a waste of oxygen - need i remind you he choked
on a pretzel and bashed his forehead on a coffee
table...then passed out? i have toe jam smarter than this
guy

i am one of those people who doesnt vote because your
right...it doesnt count - i have a hard enough time finding
people who agree with me on small matters, let alone how the
world is run - fuck america

we should riot and over throw the govt while listening to
stereolab - for the people by the people is a bullshit
fabricated idea

its by the rich stinky white guys
to take advantage of and fuck those who dont fit in the
"white" house

scary

"fuck politicians...tomorrow im canadian"
- luke sick (of scared hoop)


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2002-11-07 07:08 [#00431646]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



scared ~ sacred


 

offline paranoia from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-11-07 07:56 [#00431676]
Points: 31 Status: Regular



MTV SUCKS
CNN PROPAGANDA
FRIENDS GOOD
MOCKERY GOOD
BUSH BAD


 

offline paranoia from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-11-07 08:01 [#00431680]
Points: 31 Status: Regular



Everyone shoud see the Micheal Moore documentary called
"Bowling for Columbine" It completely shows how stupid the
American gun laws are. If you don't like the states you
should so see this movie. I laughed my ass off and learned
a lot!!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-07 08:16 [#00431701]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to uviol: #00431405



well, uviol, his decisions on terrorism and the environment
(remember that thing? most people have forgotten about it)
haven't been reasonable (to put it lightly), and his
corporate ties are not a thing of the past. same with his
VP. didn't you pay attention to the whole enron scandal?
that's just the tip of the iceberg. with their histories
it'd be foolish to believe they're not still heavily
invested in the oil business. what a strange coincidence
that they want to invade a smaller country that happens to
be bountiful with oil reserves.


 

offline paranoia from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-11-07 08:21 [#00431704]
Points: 31 Status: Regular



I think a german political person brought up a good point.
Bush is trying to blind the american people from the failing
economy by starting a war and creating hatred. She also
compared him to hitler but I won't go as far as agreeing
with that.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-07 08:26 [#00431707]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to paranoia: #00431704



yea i wouldn't go that far either, i think that pretty much
ruins the credibility of the arguer. it's not like dubya is
the first world leader to use war as a diversion but it
still sucks.


 

offline Apt_Zet from Afghanistan on 2002-11-07 08:31 [#00431709]
Points: 240 Status: Addict



Sure I will take your bait and "feast" as you put it.

When did something being, make somethign being right?

When you compare yourself to Cuba and Castro of course
you're are gonna look good.

Shit beside Hitler I look like Jesus. Comaprison is not a
justifiable form to judgement!

You wanna know where your can bitch and rip out your
countries leader? I could make a list 100 countries long.
You're not special.

Half did NOT vote for Bush. Less then half of those who
voted did. Those who voted! ...They could pay people to vote
in the USA and they wouldn't show up. No one likes the 2
choices? Two bad. Those two choice (rep and dems) have made
sure it is like that. Hey, but that is the way it is and
that should be defended for just being the way it is right?
Shit NO!

That comedic mocking you trash on is unfortunately the best
form of politcal descent in your country. Fucking why do I
turn on the daily show and hear news I would here on CNN,
FOX, or MSNBC? Because these are major corporations pushing
an agenda and covering there asses like a prisoned
homophobe. They can't rip on their best source of inside
information. They also fear monger in conjuction with the
government because it is profitable to the media and
extremely benefitial to the president and his "burning rome"
manipulation of the public. Do you know how much the media
who love a war? Look how much they loved just talking about
going to war.Who was the greatest benefactor of 9-11? Not
Osama, the american government and the media. I am sorry to
repeat this but someone hasn't caught on.

"I'd like to see you mock your leader in another country,
but
then again we are "free" so that's USA-AOK.....Sigh, "

Where the hell did you get this from? Serious what compelled
you to right something that is so outrageously inacurrate?
There is a myriad of countries represented on this board and
anyone them (that I have seen) can do just what you seem to
thinkis selective to only your "free" country. That is
complete bullshit.



 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-11-07 08:55 [#00431754]
Points: 3301 Status: Lurker | Followup to KEYFUMBLER: #00431547



Oddly enough, my wife is an Irish citizen living in Arizona.
She's never mentioned feeling "isolated" but sometimes her
outspoken views get her into trouble with friends. I don't
think there is any pressure to take citizenship.

She makes a big deal of it because in the oath you must take
to become a US citizen you must renounce all oaths to other
foreign countries. She doesn't want to do that. Since you
can have dual citizenship, we asked the INS (immigration)
official how that's possible and he basically said "cross
your fingers as you take the oath." That's kind of weak.

I'm an American by birth but I've lived in several foreign
countries. I've been accepted/rejected by varying degrees in
all of them. I never really came across any racial or
nationalistic hatred, but often people said that I didn't
strike them as a typical American (i.e. tourist). I have to
say, though, that I was most accepted in Ireland, even
before I became a naturalised citizen there.

The "isolationist" stereotype of the typical American is
partially true and has some important historical context.
Rather than attacking it I think it's important to try and
understand it.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-07 09:01 [#00431772]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular



i'm really, really depressed about all this bad stuff going
on around the world - i can't even think straight.

so i have a new tactic: smoke pot and try to ignore.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 09:03 [#00431776]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



reasons for NOT going to war with Iraq



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 09:04 [#00431778]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



the myth of war

very interesting..


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-07 09:06 [#00431783]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



as someone from the UK, I hate him.


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-07 09:12 [#00431792]
Points: 1722 Status: Regular



He scares me as much as qrter's avatar does
*brrrrr*

; )


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 09:13 [#00431793]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



"War is organized, industrial slaughter.."

- Chris Hedges..



 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 09:14 [#00431795]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular | Followup to neetta: #00431772



Thats pretty much what I do now.


 

offline Hiller_ from Tornio (Finland) on 2002-11-07 09:14 [#00431796]
Points: 411 Status: Regular



Us sucks. But just look at Finland? Oh my god!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 09:14 [#00431797]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to C738: #00431792



AH! C738! I replied to your e-mail AT LAST! sorry about the
delay..


 

offline C738 from Outer Space on 2002-11-07 09:30 [#00431815]
Points: 1722 Status: Regular



qrter, its allright, I tend to do that too.
But anyways, Im talking to some people from the local
blues-cafe, and they might be interesting in organizing
something electronic.
They organise death and black metal nights as well.
Maybe an ambient / experimental night...
I dont know, we'll see.



 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-07 09:34 [#00431819]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular | Followup to Hiller_: #00431796



whats wrong with finland? in my opinion, we are doing quite
well, when compared to many other. ok everything is
expensive and taxes are high but as a student i really value
the high social security. politics in finland are lame, so
nothing really bad there either. the only REALLY bad thing
about fland is the eu. but at least in finland people are
quite educated, fat and safe.

there is a lot of talk about finland being the little
america. maybe it is but at least we have a nice, lame
president (tarja halonen) and a sheepish government.


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-07 09:37 [#00431821]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



tell me more? why is finland "little america"...( with its
trees so tall )


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-07 09:46 [#00431829]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular



why is finland little america.

people are as fat as in america.
(almost) everyone watches alot of tv.
the stereotypical finn is quite similar to the stereotypical
american, just more educated.
the consuming culture is similar to america in some way.

i guess. this is harsh catecorizing and i should not be
saying this.

i really do not know if this really is true, since my
opinion is that finland is finland and not little america.
there are just people who say so.



 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-07 09:50 [#00431832]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to neetta: #00431829



why is having a "lame president" cool? i'm not saying i like
bush (i think every post i've made on him shows that i
don't), but at least have a leader that takes some action..
why have a president at all if he's just going to be a
figurehead?


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2002-11-07 09:55 [#00431838]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



jesus.........so is Sweden like Canada?!!!!



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2002-11-07 10:01 [#00431843]
Points: 23472 Status: Lurker



i would prreferre a figurre-head that has people who know
what they arre doing taking contrrol ratherr than a dumbass
who takes contrrol but knows fuck all and stands the chance
of rruining the countrry and/orr the worrld (thinking about
his stance on the global warrming frront, he's a mindless
knob)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2002-11-07 10:01 [#00431844]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular



hahahahha. yes sweden is canada :D

tits: it's not like she is lame in a negative way, but the
action she takes is subtle. i like that, because i she would
go running to a war i would most definitely like her. she
does all that nice stuff a nice lady does; visits kids at
their schools etc. etc.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 10:13 [#00431853]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



"but at least have a leader that takes some
action.."


that has NO worth unless the action has any positive
effect or positive reasoning behind it.

thats like someone saying: "our president has bombed 9
countries.. say what you want, he does take action!"..


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-07 12:21 [#00432032]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00431853



qrter: of course, i agree. sorry for the sloppy wording, i
didn't mean "any" action.

neetta: it's sweet of her to visit kids in schools but what
i mean is, does she actually RUN the country? that is, does
she take measures to improve the quality of life? i've been
to finland so i know the quality of life is already very
high there. however, no country is without problems, and
that's why i can't fathom why you would possibly enjoy
having a "lame" president.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-11-07 13:39 [#00432130]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



Lame presidents rule!!

Our scandinavian countries where built on socialism and
common sence.
Peace and prosperity.
Lately tho i feel it is all going to shit , capitalist right
wing polititians is ruining alot.
When the state i selling out everything to private
companies (often foreign) , public transportation etc our
scandinavian "High standard" goes down the toilet.
Im not a hardcore communist or anything but jesus! enough is
enough!


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-11-07 14:01 [#00432153]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to Sido Dyas: #00432130



exactly why lame presidents suck


 

offline Crocomire from plante (United States) on 2002-11-07 14:03 [#00432155]
Points: 2116 Status: Lurker



damn oil families ruining everything


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-11-07 14:07 [#00432159]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



We don't even have a president.
I have no freaking idea why i wrote "Lame presidents
rule"??? haha!
Maybe it was a display of hatred against Busch wich i
consider to be a world dictator.i don't know...



 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-07 15:01 [#00432226]
Points: 3088 Status: Lurker



I do not support big bussiness supporters and people who are
prolife and pro capital punishment at the same time. if we
took all the $ we use to kill people with and did some good
to help the people in jail become better(some of which are
completely innocent but thats a completely different
issue)and get out of jail instead of killing. no one has
the right to kill anyone, but bush and half of the US feels
that its wrong to do abortion but ok to kill a "criminal"


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2002-11-07 15:03 [#00432227]
Points: 3088 Status: Lurker



instead of killing them*


 

offline Apt_Zet from Afghanistan on 2002-11-07 16:16 [#00432278]
Points: 240 Status: Addict



It's the red tape/bureaucracy and conflicting rights of
capital punishment not the act that is costly. Removing the
act is an indirect way of solving the cost problem you
complain about.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-11-07 16:19 [#00432284]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



Captitalism is good to an extent.

It only takes a few to make the rest look bad.



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2002-11-07 19:12 [#00432422]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to elusive: #00432284



same with communism.


 


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