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i bought antichrist superstar. i am pleased with my purchase. express opinions on marilyn manson. the music, not his image. |
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I like his song "Turniquette" and his "I dont like the drugs" vide is pretty damn cool too.....he is plaining a collaboration with Miss Kitten & Anthony Rother.... |
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his cover versions are, to a one, crap, it seems to me. however, I have toyed with the possibility that this is deliberate on his part. |
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a troublesome album.. kind of like it, but also feel kind of childish when listening - "yeah yeah, the worm, antichrist, blah blah blah" do like "dirty rockstar" - is it called that? |
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i used to like it a few years back. but then i discovered he was doing the same thing over and over. and i started to dislike rock music because of its stupidity (just my opinion). i hate these poor alternative rock kids who try to look like marilyn manson. if he dressed out in a pink bucket all of these kids would do it. its actually a bit amusing. |
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Pfff. Nothing NIN and his like haven't done already, only with more consistency in quality and artistic growth. |
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Antichrist Superstar was a half decent album...mostly because of Trent probably |
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cryptorchid... nice |
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tourniquet, that song bothers me to no ends. its sort of enjoyable, but gets old. it feels, to me, like it drags on forever, even though its only 4 minutes and 29 seconds. dried up tied up and dead to the world is probably the track that pulled me into the album. |
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NIN has the same problem - you feel like you're listening to a whining pubescent, lyric-wise.. I do love NIN though.. much better than Mary Manson. |
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"dried up tied up and dead to the world" yeah thats a good one.. especially the ending.. |
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i agree very much with qrter. and nin is better, but i still do enjoy marilyn manson's music, and not just antichrist superstar. |
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ACS is one dope album. trent practically did it for him (well, trent and nin members chris vrenna, charlie clouser, etc.). highly recommended to any nin fan, it's kinda like a missing album? if you wonder what nin would've sounded like after TDS but before the fragile. i don't own or care to own any other manson albums, this one's good enough for me. as for manson the person, "he a smart muthafucka." he came across very intelligent and sensible in bowling for columbine (michael moore's new film). time to fuck, cya later! |
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he is working on his next album "The Golden Age of Grotesque" (sp?) not a big fan, his rage is wonderful sometimes, and tiring most others.... |
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of course we all know Marilyn Manson ripped off NIN, and NIN ripped of the mighty Nitzer Ebb & Front 242 ;) |
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blah, he sucks ass in my opinion... probably literally too!! ;) |
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it's his best album and MM didn't rip off NIN! NIN MADE MM! it's all been downhill since that album! he sure did put on a good show with that tour! it's up there as one of the most entertaining... god I haven't listend to that album in AGES! I might have to dig around for it. |
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i know a kid in my school who wears 12 inch platforms, has an afro, a ponytail, wears make-up, wears all black, and is OBSESSED with marilyn manson. he's scary, mm = publicity stunt |
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i never was really fond of her music |
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Antichrist Superstar is a very good choice, One day I'm gonna go Cd happy and my first Manson Cd has to be that one....Manson is a great singer,performer and entertainer, the people who dont like him are scared. |
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There is definitely no comparison with Marilyn Manson and NIN...they're both 2 different singers/song writers.C'mon wit dat shit |
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it's a good choice and you don't even OWN it?! wtf. some "fan" you are. |
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trent reznor produced antichrist superstar and his previous album also so yea there is no comparison and I stand by my statement that NIN made MM. |
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Yeah, Trent knows his shit about music, Manson took Trents wisdom about it and made it in a weird fucked up crazy way, but its still music...NIN did make Manson who he is. I completely agree. |
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''NIN has the same problem - you feel like you're listening to a whining pubescent, lyric-wise.. '' I feel the same way... love the music, but I wish he'd shut his mouth sometimes, he makes me cringe more often than I'd like to... I don't like Manson much, but I respect his work... his ''image'' and all that are an immediate turn off. |
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Manson is all image as far as I'm concerned... and so no, I haven't listened to much by him, but I haven't had any desire... I bought The Fragile by NIN last year to see what all the fuss about NIN was about, and it's really not my thing... I only listened to it a few times... and those were me trying to force myself into liking an album I paid 30 bucks or so for... I really should sell that one! |
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yea some of NIN can rub off that way... but he does come up with some of the best instrumentals! I think his instrumentals are the best of his work! he should put out an album with no vocals! hahah I bet most of you would love that. |
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but ophkecs you dont hate me for MY image just look at it its a grown man named rick playing a kazoos! |
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yes, marilyn manson ( & the band) is quite very talented as singers/songwriters/composers/entertainers...he's pretty up there with the likes of NIN, Tool, and other good bands...... i would say ----- "Antichrist Superstar" is to "The Downward Spiral" -as- "Holy Wood" is to "The Fragile" i enjoy both as equal.....but I must say NIN has got to be the winner there. |
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The Downward Spiral is much better, I think... at least give that one a shot. |
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Holy Wood was good, didnt like the other albums though |
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holywoods his weakest in my opinion |
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yeah, the instrumentals were the best part of The Fragile... a few of those were good... |
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funkmaster! just listen to la mer!! jUST LISTEN TO IT oh and also listen to were in this together now those are two good songs and so is starfuckers inc |
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yes, La Mer is nice... but overall, I just can't get into that album... I guess like a lot of people says, his singing and lyrics just annoy me... |
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nizter ebb is the king of industrial, i can't believe no-one's heard of him, especially how manson & nin owe so much to him |
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I've heard of em |
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I know Nitzer EBB.....and Skinny Puppy...I think Industrial is cheesy shit... |
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I do not care for Marilyn Manson. I like some NIN though. |
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Nitzer Ebb are quite brilliant..Especially "That Total Age" is a faultless album... Sadly Industrial HAS gone the way of the cheese..I admit...but it used to be a valid artform at it's peak... |
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i think almost every song from him is great. ive got all his albums, and i think he's ok...but i really dont like to see him do bad movies soundtracks (although hes not the most underground artist ever) im sure he will soon be very bad in his musical choices, and then he wont exist anymore.... :P |
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btw i dont like NIN new work, at least one of the last videos "deep" its so shitty i cannot believe one poor second this stupid chemical video! |
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i would say ----- "Antichrist Superstar" is to "The Downward Spiral" -as- "Holy Wood" is to "The Fragile" i agree for antichrist superstar and the downward spiral, but i think you're insulting the fragile by comparing it to holy wood... or maybe that's just me. ' _ ' i listened to holy wood again (glad i have it on mp3 only) lately, and sounded like shit to me... especially compared to A?SS and MA. and his cover of tainted love is just plain horrible (please, go listen to coil's one instead!!). i love all of NIN i listened to, except for deep. i liked aatchb very much. for MM, antichrist superstar and mechanical animals were great but i don't really expect anything good from him again... (will check out the golden age of grotesque, in case it is good, but i doubt it.) |
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mdr i was only talking about deep in fact but its still a bad video i think and it sounds bad too... |
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i think it is interesting to compare antichrist superstar to downward spiral, as they seem to be two different issues of a similar story... on both albums, the main character feels hate against the world, is beaten down by people, etc. (very original... erm ^^), but in downward spiral he has no self control nor control of the situation, and it's all downhill from all points of view for him. maybe at the end he manages to find some sort of peace, but a very sad peace... it's not very clear, 'hurt' can be interpreted in many ways... whereas in antichrist superstar, the character manages to get control of the world he hates in some way. what's wrong is that he doesn't control himself... and that's what will cause his (bad) ending. but the story in acss doesn't really end, it just starts over again (track 99), it's endless... (besides the acss symbol can be interpreted as 'endless fight'). i agree with the lyrics being somewhat childish (and some marilyn manson fans being so stupid, would almost disgust me from liking manson... almost), but still, there is a depth into these two albums, and many interpretations possible. |
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ok! :) (btw, "mdr" doesn't work in english, does it...? ;)) |
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hehe sorry i just realise now english isnt my first language i beg u my friend! :) |
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it isn't my first language, either (: |
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from wich iced desert are u from then?? :D |
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Quit bagging The Fragile you people its a good album |
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