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Anyone here listen to merzbow? If so what your fave merzbow disc? Mine: A Perfect Pain Merzbow's also going to be playing at ATP, the same night as RDJ. |
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merzbow = dreadful noise. |
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I don't much like it, favorite is tauromachine though. He has little control compared to say, otto von schirach. It just sounds like sound basically, not intricate organized sound. |
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noise is god.......uh i mean good! Power electronics is better, www.ant-zen.com/converter converter is toooo phat! (even RDJ seems to have dabbled in power electronics (it the new shiznat), the end of track 4 on drukqs dics 1) |
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yes, there must be some organization, beat, hook, line, etc., that comes through. |
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was gonna pick up a Matmos album... glad I didn't, cause I don't think I'd like it too much... Drukqs is like organized noise... but with beautiful melodies beneath... it's a great album!!! |
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Well I love "a chance to cut is a chance to cure". It's playful like lobster tracks or randa roomet, but still has an autechre like complexity (due to the sounds used) but a simpler construction that some of this other crazy stuff (richard devine etc0 |
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Minotaurus *L* |
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blah, I meant Merzbow... as this topic is about Merzbow, that would make more sense... haven't heard much by Matmos... |
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Merzbow's hit'n'miss with me..prefer Boredoms:) |
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that's all pretty borning pretentious art wank aggro punk shit..grew out of it a while back.. |
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you might wanna try rec.music.industrial..it's full of ant zen fans could get very good discussions goin on that and Merzbow.. |
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yeah, boring pretentious art wank aggro punk shit... lol |
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I mean some of my gsr stuff is not that far off it..but I think I have a better sense of humour..lack of the pretentions going for me LOL |
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I'm going to slowly start plowing through your stuff next, yeah I think you're right (with the track titles too...) though merzbow has awesome track titles... canniblism of machine... |
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ok, so the guy's sleeping then decides to get up and read a book? hmm... then it says zzz when he reads it, is the book about sleeping or something/ |
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nah I like Merzbow..it's the antzens that bug me:) |
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no the guy is forced up by an automated bed..and has a book thrust onto him automaticaly he looks at the book and falls asleep again..it's just the state I am in..having trouble reading more than a paragraph..unless it's a graphic novel :) |
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Merzbow is some pretty good stuff... |
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oh, hehh he... I havn't read much lately either, eventually almost everything seems like someone's opinion. but if you read enough, you start seeing links between things, everything fits together logically or something. (fmap osssf) *hicuup b*oing narf |
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Exactly. *points to my nose* |
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Just by coincedence I heard Ecobondage for the first time today, the Autechre mix, quite AFXy. |
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but not as good. |
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(while eating an apple) mmm, this lemmon is great! |
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The Merzbow I've heard was just like the radio between two channels through an overdriven distortion effect. Is all Merzbow's stuff like that? |
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Everything I've heard is like that. It's a total sonic asault. I love it personally. Although I ony have one album '1930' |
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I believe Boyd Rice pioneered this style in 1975 (black album). He only used an on and off switch for the noise, recorded it to vinyl and drilled different holes in it so it could be played differently. It's a fun idea but it's not really for me. |
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Boyd Rice is the God of noise I agree..everyone that follows just seems redundant..early Lustmord is Kickarse..tapefuckup as well |
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you into Burroughs by any chance? he ruined the reading expereince for me:) unless it's cut up fragmented and destroyed text..doesn't hold my attention:) |
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I just downloaded a Crunch track don't know how representative of thier sound it is "am.I.ma"..hmm sounds like standard IDM stuff to me..nice ambient pads..a distorted hiphop rhythms..a few granulizing interludes..not bad..but just not setting my world alight yet.. |
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Actually the fist noise band was The Nihilist Spasm Band. The are a Canadian group from London, Ontario. They started in the 60's and every noise band or otherwise has played with them. Including Merzbow and Thurston Moore, Jim O'rourke. The NSB still plays shows weekly and has a big festival call the No Music Festival. |
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i've ordered Tauromachine...and i'm still waiting for it. |
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hm..interesting info Trevor..but what of Lou Reed's metal machine music?..That also predates official industrial noise (Throbbing Gristle) as well as the soundtrack for Eraserhead..Lynch was toying with same concepts and ended up creating his sound simultaneously with the start of the Industrial movement without actually being aware of it... |
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not music plain and simple |
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Metal Machine music came out in '75 I think? The Nihilst Spasm band played thier first concersts in '66 and first recording in '68. But Throbbing Gristle did come along a few years after Metal machine music. I think some movements, musical or otherwise, are just ment to happen. It doesn't really matter who started them, it was just time for it. |
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no i wasnt disagreeing with the bit about Nihilist Spasm..it's just as if a phenomenon brews and ripens , feeds on the events and paradigm shifts of the time and the place..and is then plucked out of the Simularca..by one by many..who ever is operating on the same wave lengths |
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music..no not is the strictest baroque terms.. art? yes definetly |
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I got the not dissagreeing thing after I actually read your post properly. I have a headache and I'm having trouble concentrating (listning to too much merzbow I guess). I totaly agree with your mini-rant about the shifts of time and space : ) |
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actually - the favourite radiostation in my car is a channel between two talkback channels (of which one is classical music everynow and then) .. the vocals/string/static combo is genius. vocal on vocal aint bad either .. havent heard any merzbow tho! |
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hey you know I did a bit of the half tuned radio thing in the States for a while(hehhe..the radio was dog droppings there when I was there.. |
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I could dig some Merzbow for up for you:)..but I have the early Lustmord, Nocturnal Emissions and Throbbing Gristle etc a lot handier..doing that stuff in Late 70's with tape machines and essentially analogue set ups = Amazing but doin it in he Naughties in this digital age = Hohum.. |
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yeah a rant it was:) but I kinda got yer Nihilist Spasm thing beat:) i.e the beats..Burroughs and Gysin cutting and mixing noise and music concretish scapes with spoken words late fifties and early sixties..mainly for their films.. |
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ohhh yeah, I forgot about that. Leave it to Burroughs to do something like that. |
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yeah he's been there and done everything first hasn't he:)..luv the guy:) |
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Have you heard the Ministry song with Burroughs speaking. I foget what it's called now, I think it was a Just one fix remix. |
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the half tuned radio thing is so much better in a car tho - because as soon as one station gets acendancy the other strikes back, and one gets quite a dynamic sort of unpredictable feel. traffic lights suck (if its tuned in on one). actually, yesterday it was kind of annoying, as one of the talkback things was quite interesting, and i wanted to hear the rest of the story, but i didn't know what the ACTUAL frequency was .. |
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yeah I prefer that one to the album version...Burroughs can even make a Nike ad cool:) |
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:)..I was doing it on radio travelling across the midwest on the back of a greyhound buss..hilarity ensued as gospel crossed with country and western and preachers..there's so many damned preachers on the radio in the midwest.. |
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i read the 'merzbeat' album was dedicated to the last male elephant seal in japan, who is called minazow. and some of the money made with the album is reversed to the 'new england aquarium' in boston massachusetts. i'm not sure if minazow would enjoy the music and if this cd is good (i've read rather few and mixed reviews)... but that's cute! *^^* |
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Merzbow is awesome. Saw him play in toronto. My friend was one of the opening bands. How cool is that? We video taped the show and are sending a copy to Merzbow in Japan. I still like his early stuff. Before he started using just the laptops. The show with him was kinda boring, watching just his hands move while sitting in front of two computers. |
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