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ggloom
from California (United States) on 2002-02-08 04:34 [#00083137]
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questions i am hoping you guys can answer:
does Aphex Twin REALLY dislike Autechre or does he make up bullshit(like he usually does) to confuse the journalists?
same thing w/Squarepusher...Richard D states in an interview that Tom Jenkinwhateverthefuck hates Autechre as well. does he really and WHY
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2002-02-08 05:12 [#00083146]
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rich and squarepusher are just jealous
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-08 05:33 [#00083148]
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In my opinion Autechre is a step above both AFX and Squarepusher. So I agree, I think theyre jealous. Autechre do seem to be a little pompous sometimes though.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-02-08 05:47 [#00083152]
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what's the name of the song on chaos ad 'buzz caner' where tom talks about drugs?
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-08 05:51 [#00083156]
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generation shit? something like that i think
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-02-08 05:54 [#00083157]
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yea, track 4 - thanks
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OK
on 2002-02-08 06:20 [#00083164]
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i don't like autechre either I think it's rubish
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ELECTRONVC
from Constanta (Romania) on 2002-02-08 09:25 [#00083203]
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MAN HOW THE FUCK DO U DON`T LIKE AUTECHRE............JUST BE THERE...
OK I UNDERSTAND THAT RICHARD IS MORE HUMAN IN MUSIC....BUT DON`T SAY THAT ABOUT AUTECHRE
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-08 10:30 [#00083230]
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no i think he does like Autechre... maybe not their music, but he likes sean and rob....
in the recent interview he was talking about emailing one of them to share a joke about jean-micheal-jarre... so i guess they must be mates...
i rekon SQP is ok with them too.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-08 10:55 [#00083239]
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They are one big incestuous happy warp family =)
I wanna be in it! lol
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 12:02 [#00083262]
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autechre are maybe better than redj but he has done so many different things with music... autechre are more in one single style and the ve reached perfection on it... afx is not that perfect but feelings get much further with his music...
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nacmat
on 2002-02-08 12:04 [#00083264]
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squarepusher is a genious too... but maybe i dont like it that much... i dont know why, dont misanderstand me, i love SP but not as much as aphex or AE..
i didnt know that afx had said anything about not liking ae... i dont believe that...
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andreas
from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-08 12:34 [#00083287]
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i was reading somewhere in an interview with rdj that aphex-releases mainly finance warp-records. and that he actually doesn't appreciate all other artists on that label. with the exception of squarepusher. whith whom he will start a rephlex sub-label i think.
but nevermind richard's opinion on other warp artists : LFO and autechre were/are cool. but it's also true that warp quality isn't anymore what it was before they signed vincent gallo ;-)
.as
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-02-08 14:19 [#00083325]
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i liek grinspoon more than all of them at the moment
but i LOVE tri repeatea lately, it has a SAW2 like quality about it to me. its harsh and beautiful, usually easy to pull off but they do it real well...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-02-08 14:47 [#00083341]
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RE: andreas - wasn't that squarepusher who had the "actual" problem - where rich didn't really care about what other artists were on WARP. ???
Where Tom thought the only other thing apart from afx worthwhile listening to was early LFO ?
Dunno, I think Ae and AFX are perhaps too different to compare, too different an approach to music ? Currently prob prefer Ae
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-09 13:05 [#00083942]
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i prefer autechre as well. every album is different, you never get bored.
but what about their question-session on warprecords.com? are they really that cheesy and pseudo-humoristic or were they just toying with us?
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-02-09 13:15 [#00083943]
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ill start this post of by saying "damnit"
i find it very funny that we can ask the question "who is better" about 3 totally and completely different artists. they each have different things to offer. different interpretations of sounds. different inspirations im sure. some offer more innovation maybe. some offer more fun. some offer more deepness. some offer more strangeness. but who can say who is best all around. what is best to one person isnt what is best to another. its stupid. can all the comparison crap between theres 3 groups. i read a new post everyday on it.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-02-09 13:17 [#00083944]
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and then i say this.. when we start asking if they get along as friends it just makes me wonder how freaking bored we are to turn our rephlex and warp musicians into a soap opera. its just music. enjoy it. i could give less of a crap if they play tenniss together and celebrate each others mothers birthdays.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-02-09 13:20 [#00083945]
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Ah well who gives a shit about these Artists, BOARDS OF CANADA FOREVER BABY ;-) !
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-09 13:22 [#00083946]
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ofcourse it's just opinions we see here, john. i happen to prefer ae and others probably prefer britney. who's to say which is the better artist? no one here presumes to know who is best, i think.
btw i don't think the topic starter wanted a comparison, if you read the topic closely.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-02-09 14:57 [#00083967]
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oh boy here we go again... while there's certainly common ground each of the artists are vastly different
Ae-is cold, precise (except perhaps Confield) machine like, elusive, and vvserious and brilliant..
RDJ-unpredictable, spontaneous, warm, silly, psychedelic, and brilliant
TJ-technically brilliant, virtuoso player, harsh and wild, sounds are very warm and real...
really on a spectrum the sounds goes from Ae--------------Afx------------------SP with RDJ capable of producing tracks as good as Ae and SP in the styles these two specialize in
The closest RDJ's sound comes to Ae is the early tracks on ICBYD, which IMHO are better than most of the early to mid Ae if only because they sound more..well human and emotional
btw a lot of the busier tracks on Drukqs actually sound a bit like early Bogdan
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2002-02-09 16:31 [#00083980]
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RDJ doesn't hate squarepusher. If he said Tom Jenkinwhatever thefuckhisnameis he was probably joking, especially since all he would have had to say was 'son'.
RDJ destroys Tom Jenkinson, except in drum manipulation skills. When Squarepusher goes all out, its just something that I've never seen RDJ be able to do technically.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-09 19:49 [#00084034]
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Aw geez, I can't concentrate on the question when I see Trent Reznor with an erection.
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sgt growley
from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-09 20:41 [#00084078]
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I'm sorry, but i just find Autechre too cold and not human enough.
Richard's work (and Tom's to a lesser extent) is brimming over with his personality.
Maybe my attention span is getting shorter as i get older, but i just lose patience with Autechre most of the time.
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john is fast
from sacramento (United States) on 2002-02-10 00:04 [#00084172]
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i never said or thought the topic wanted us to compare. but people did. and it drives me mad i tell you. mad.
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umbriel
from Sainte-Foy (Canada) on 2002-02-10 02:49 [#00084212]
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early bogdan? do you mean bogdan raczynski? i have this one genious track by him but i really dont know who he is. could you fill me in please?
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-10 03:13 [#00084224]
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Yeah, he probably means Bogdan R. I never liked him for a long time, but recently I heard Boku Mo Wakaran (first LP I think) and I love it. I then downloaded My Love I Love, which I also love, but it's quite the new direction (few beats, accoardians, flutes, Bogdan singing cheesy love lyrics). I can't tell if he's serious or not, but I dig it eiher way.
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-10 03:13 [#00084225]
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Which track are you talking about?
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leftrightronic
on 2002-02-10 03:27 [#00084227]
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"In my opinion Autechre is a step above both AFX and Squarepusher." -Taoist, not to hate on you man, but that's a bit of an ambiguous statement. A "step above", doesn't really signify much or say anything if you don't say why you think so. Of course it's all opinion, but these are all quite respected musicians. And well, heh I just think it's unfair to judge something as subjective as this and try to make a competition out of "who makes better music than the other guy".
I enjoy all three artists, they offer a new take on sound that no one else can provide in quite the same way, and I picture them in their own arenas. There is so much other terrific (and crap) music being produced, it really shouldn't be about proving who is better than the next guy, it should just be about the music.
cheers
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umbriel
from Sainte-Foy (Canada) on 2002-02-10 03:29 [#00084228]
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its just titled "track 24". it must of been on some compilation of some sort. it very noisy and delicious.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-02-10 03:54 [#00084254]
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re: track 24
bogdan raczynski doesn't name his tracks .. on the albums i have anyway .. i'd say its off BOKU MO WAKARAN seeing thats the only that has a track 24 ?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-10 07:06 [#00084391]
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is competition necessary?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-02-10 08:29 [#00084405]
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Its like comparing a car, a train and a plane!
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-10 08:39 [#00084409]
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Huffy beats Chrysler any day!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-10 10:45 [#00084430]
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...mhm... someone is forgetting of Mike Paradinas...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-02-10 11:13 [#00084442]
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who would that be :)
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LionelCosgrove
from Baden Württemberg (Germany) on 2002-02-10 13:46 [#00084495]
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i think the main difference between autechre and aphex is that aphex has many different atmospheres in his tracks, autechre usually has one great atmosphere in one track (for example:Garbagemx36 is about 14 minutes long and it doesn't change to a totally other style, but this track is fucking great). aphex (like in ziggomatic 17) has about 17 different parts and if you listen very good you can count. i like autechre more than aphex. aphex has more different styles in one track...but i think autechre can create more emotional tracks as well too (krib, second scepe, inhake 2 and corc for example) and i think you need more to get into autechre (Squarepusher, u-Ziq, Boards of Canada and Plaid are also great) but
of course thats just my opinion.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-02-10 23:33 [#00084732]
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can we at this bring Funkstorung into this discussion?
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Canerfold
from Minneappleseed (United States) on 2002-02-11 06:37 [#00085009]
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i've not heard much funksto, what tracks do you recomend I dl?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-02-11 06:56 [#00085017]
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nice twist flea :)
I suggest pretty much anything off Appetite for Disctruction.
Perhaps of note are:
Appetite for Disctruction AM KM34 A Bottle, A Box and a Mic Mind The Gap
This is just off the top of my head ... there is so much more :)
've only listened to 'Vice Versa' via Real Player [still sounds fuckin' A] .. 'Additional Productions' aint bad either.
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tommo
from Perth (Australia) on 2002-02-11 07:12 [#00085024]
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Yes! Mike Paradinas is very cool. I must admit I do like SP and afx a bit more, but the batch of mu-ziq recordings I've heard have been awesome :)
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